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Hello! Help me solve an argument please!

sophiacherryx [Edit] [Delete] 108 replies 12:08, 27 February '07

Yesterday I took Stealthy to see Tom Mcrae at Cargo, I left him at the bar while I had a quick look at the merch stall and when I went to join him he had a bottle of water and handed me a pint. He then went to give me my change but was outraged that it was only £4 when he had given the lady a tenner.
He asked her how much my pint was then said "well i gave you a tenner" to which he was told "yes, but the bottled water was £1.60"
I'm not here to express my disgust that they had the audacity to charge such a price for a WARM bottle of water.

The argument occured when Stealthy said to the woman he had wanted tap water, he said he asked for water so didnt expect to be charged. (well it coming in a bottle was a clue :P)
She told him he must stipulate that it is TAP water he wants.
Stealthy thinks if you go to the bar and ask for water you will be given tap water.
EVERYONE knows that you have to specify you want TAP water.

So isn't it a well known fact you have to ask for tap water if you want that rather than bottled?

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  • slow night was it?

    meths | 27 Feb '07, 12:09 | X
    • seriously

      he needs to be proven wrong.

      sophiacherryx @meths | 27 Feb '07, 12:10 | X
      • stealthy is such a gypO!

        meths @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 12:12 | X
    • no, they argued about whether fag machines can have the clock reset on them

      i vote that you specify tap water. in a commericail operation they will try and charge you money unless you stop them.

      keiths_tele @meths | 27 Feb '07, 12:12 | X
  • I don't know

    I always drink alcohol. Sorry.

    sadpunk | 27 Feb '07, 12:10 | X
    • How was Tom though?

      sadpunk @sadpunk | 27 Feb '07, 12:10 | X
      • he was awesome!

        he played loads of classics which was cool cos i was a biut owrried we'd just be bombarded with new stuff.

        his new stuff sounds remarkably upbeat for tom. he's definitely been influenced by artists on the hotel cafe tour.

        we did a dose me up singalong, it was beautiful : )

        sophiacherryx @sadpunk | 27 Feb '07, 12:20 | X
  • i don't think

    i've ever had to 'specify' it, but maybe that's because i usually ask for a glass of water..

    i think you should be more outraged that you apparently paid £4.40 for a pint.

    guntrip | 27 Feb '07, 12:10 | X
    • ^^^^ this

      and how was the gig?

      olegrich @guntrip | 27 Feb '07, 12:11 | X
    • no it was like £3.60 i think

      which is still pretty poo but i can handle it.
      he also couldn't understand why anyone would pay for water when they could get tap for free. im of this school of thought myself but i know there are lots of fussy people who only drink bottled water. especially in london cos the water is rank.

      sophiacherryx @guntrip | 27 Feb '07, 12:13 | X
      • you pwn the maths

        keiths_tele @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 12:13 | X
  • Did he enjoy Mcrae?

    doubtful | 27 Feb '07, 12:11 | X
    • he did!

      he looked at me after the first song, stoked his chin and said "not bad, not bad, guys got a good voice"
      so yeah.

      just as he was going into one song tho, i told him "omg this ones amazing!" and he really loudly goes "this blink 182 is it?"
      poohead

      sophiacherryx @doubtful | 27 Feb '07, 12:22 | X
  • yeah, you say "tap water"

    same as in a restaurant, if you dont say tap water they get you mineral water.

    its a device to make you look stingey

    alcxxk | 27 Feb '07, 12:12 | X
    • also: on the same topic:

      does everyone know that you can get tap water in mc donalds?

      stops you being tempted to get a meal deal thing when you realise you can have something to wash it down with for free

      alcxxk @alcxxk | 27 Feb '07, 12:13 | X
      • "do you want a drink?"

        "

        meths @alcxxk | 27 Feb '07, 12:14 | X
        • me?

          yes?

          alcxxk @meths | 27 Feb '07, 12:15 | X
          • sorry,

            i massively hit post prematurely (spelling?)!

            meths @alcxxk | 27 Feb '07, 12:16 | X
      • Yeah I found this out a while back!

        The McDonalds lady gave my friend a look like he was a complete idiot for ordering tap water in McDonalds. Which is a bit fucking rich coming from someone who works in McDonalds.

        _antilovesong @alcxxk | 27 Feb '07, 12:15 | X
        • i found it out cos my friend was choking

          and i went to get water to stop them dying, and it occurred to me that i didnt need a choking victim to work that shit

          alcxxk @_antilovesong | 27 Feb '07, 12:18 | X
      • i've known this for years!

        they have tap water cos they m,ix it with the stuff to make the coke.

        been ordering tap water in mcdonalds for years!

        sophiacherryx @alcxxk | 27 Feb '07, 12:23 | X
  • I ask for a glass of water

    Dalkin | 27 Feb '07, 12:13 | X
  • You HAVE to say tap water

    they want to charge you outrageous money for bottled water and will try anything they can to do it.

    YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN THE BARMAID THE GIFT OF ANGER!

    TheoGB | 27 Feb '07, 12:13 | X
  • Always specify tap water

    in the UK.

    _antilovesong | 27 Feb '07, 12:14 | X
  • You gotta say tap

    Yep yep.

    bamos | 27 Feb '07, 12:15 | X
    • "tap yep yep"?

      meths @bamos | 27 Feb '07, 12:18 | X
      • Yes

        He's a shit Tim Ten Yen tribute artiste.

        bamos @meths | 27 Feb '07, 12:21 | X
        • is he supporting the chumbs?

          meths @bamos | 27 Feb '07, 12:24 | X
  • i always

    stipulate 'tap' water when i order a water, just on the off chance the person behind the bar assumes i mean, 'a bottle of mineral water'.

    katekamikaze | 27 Feb '07, 12:18 | X
  • I suffered the reserve once

    I asked for water, and the guy at the bar gave me tap water in a glass. I was like "No, she wants mineral water, like evian or something". He said she wouldn't know the difference. She did. That story was far more interesting in my head, I think.

    PocketMouse | 27 Feb '07, 12:18 | X
    • get less picky friends!

      ex_cynic @PocketMouse | 27 Feb '07, 12:20 | X
    • I hate people

      who actually WANT to pay for mineral water instead of getting free tap water. I do not keep this kind of company.

      _antilovesong @PocketMouse | 27 Feb '07, 12:21 | X
  • well surely Stealthy had the option

    of when she gave him the water in a bottle he could say, no I dont want bottled water I want tap water please.

    If she had already twisted and broken the seal that is her look out, she cannot force you to pay for it as she did not ascertain beforehand that you definately wanted bottled water.

    Also why do these places sometimes break the seal on the bottle (so you dont save it for later or drink it in a more expensive place?) no its to try to co-erce people who might otherwise say I only wanted tap water into thinking the deal had been done.

    So the answer is its not her fault for fetching a bottle (If stealthy did not specify which type)(If she twists it without getting specification of what type of stealthy then thats her lookout, stealthy can still refuse the bottle) but if stealthy allows himsef to go along with it then thats his lookout.......but your money unfortunately.

    creakyknees | 27 Feb '07, 12:20 | X
    • we got our money back

      i really wasn't bothered about buying him a glass of water tho!
      the woman didnt break the seal but stealthy did. this is the most ridiculous part of this extremely exciting, high octane anecdote.
      he OPENED THE BOTTLE AND TOOK A SWIG (the barmaid didnt see)
      and he hadnt expected to be charged when they gave hima bottle of water. who gives out bottles of water for free?
      stealthy is nearly 23, surely he knows how the world works by now?!

      sophiacherryx @creakyknees | 27 Feb '07, 12:27 | X
      • this anecdote is continually improved

        by the continual references to stealthy as 'stealthy'

        ex_cynic @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 18:53 | X
        • thats what i call him

          whats wrong with that?

          sophiacherryx @ex_cynic | 28 Feb '07, 01:43 | X
      • you say tap

        but she sounds like a bitch for not giving him the option of the tap.

        Jamie_Summers | 27 Feb '07, 12:22 | X
      • you say tap water

        you can also get tap water in cinema's, although some of them are bastards and refuse. I've had many a heated argument with staff. they're selling food so surely it's illegal not to have tap water? or am I getting my laws confused?

        chunty | 27 Feb '07, 12:26 | X
        • Its actually illegal for anyone (with mains) to refuse someone a request for water to drink

          (or at least this used to be a law......maybe it just applied to householders)

          creakyknees @chunty | 27 Feb '07, 12:32 | X
          • There was a time I was feeling really quite

            And was walking back from the village, and the first thing I came to was a small Tesco store. I went inside, and said I didn't have any money but felt very ill and needed some water - they refused. So I walked down the road, went into a giant Asda store, asked the same, and they went and got me a glass of water and phoned my sister for me. I still hate Asda though. I don't know why I keep telling these stories...

            PocketMouse @creakyknees | 27 Feb '07, 12:37 | X
            • I was.. 'feeling really quite ill'

              PocketMouse @PocketMouse | 27 Feb '07, 12:38 | X
            • me too

              they're charming : )

              sophiacherryx @jasminepearson | 27 Feb '07, 12:41 | X
            • Oh, I'm thinking of writing a book

              You know, just with all my little pointless stories that nobody's ever wanted to hear ever. As much as my friends/family are nice, whenever I open my mouth I'm generally greeted with "Look, Lucy... sorry, but we really don't care". I need an outlet.

              PocketMouse @jasminepearson | 27 Feb '07, 12:42 | X
              • hahahaha

                awww your friends/family are mean.

                my best mate does that to me sometimes, i'll be going on about something (usually boys) and she'll allow me to ramble for ages then go "sorry, i stopped listening ten minutes ago" biatch

                sophiacherryx @PocketMouse | 27 Feb '07, 12:50 | X
                • It's why I got rabbits

                  They're not awfully good at staying still though. I just sit and talk with them climbing over me. This isn't the sort of thing I should be admitting to publicly, is it?

                  PocketMouse @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 12:57 | X
                  • admit whatever you like!

                    hey everyone! sometimes i still sleep with my teddy bear ROCK THE FUCK ON!

                    sophiacherryx @PocketMouse | 27 Feb '07, 13:04 | X
            • oh please say that one day!

              sophiacherryx @jasminepearson | 27 Feb '07, 12:41 | X
            • ...

              Clarification: I asked for a GLASS of water.

              This is why it was a palaver when I'm presented with a bottle and expected to pay for it. The bar wench got really snooty about it as well. I think it might have been because I ordered a Cider and black like this:

              "You have blackcurrent juice?"
              "Yeah."
              "Well, pull a pint and pour blackcurrent juice in it. That'll do. Off you go."

              Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:14 | X
              • did u actually say 'off you go'

                *shakes head sadly*

                sophiacherryx @Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:17 | X
              • Why DID you order your cider and black in that obnoxious manner?

                TheoGB @Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:18 | X
                • ...

                  Because she was being a prick. She finished serving some guy. Then went to talk to her mate for five minutes. Then she came back and started putting me through this whole rigmarole about not knowing what cider was. And then not knowing what a cider and black was.

                  Worst thing is, in the act of serving me, she totally blanked this other guy who'd been waiting for at least as long as me who we later found didn't get served for 20 minutes.

                  Stealthy @TheoGB | 27 Feb '07, 18:34 | X
                  • A bar where the staff don\t know what a cider and black is?

                    How the other half live...

                    joeymahone @Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:45 | X
              • oh but y7ou would have got away with it

                a smile and a wink. if only she wasn't behind the bar, you could've given her a nice pat on the bum.

                klaire @Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:19 | X
                • yeah

                  women LOVE that

                  sophiacherryx @klaire | 27 Feb '07, 18:22 | X
                  • :) ;)

                    *bum pat*

                    klaire @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 18:28 | X
              • But ordering cider and black IS a minefield

                Maybe there's something wrong with my mouth, but I often end up being served Soda and black :(

                bunique @Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:21 | X
              • If you had ordered your drink like that from me

                You wouldn't have gotten anything at all.

                Dalkin @Stealthy | 27 Feb '07, 18:22 | X
                • Haha

                  The thing is, I'm really not sure whether he's joking.

                  joeymahone @Dalkin | 27 Feb '07, 18:28 | X
                  • I'm sure he's not

                    and neither am I :)

                    Dalkin @joeymahone | 27 Feb '07, 18:28 | X
            • thats the bit that i really dont get

              why didnt stealthy realise when he was handed a bottle of water that he'd have to pay? who gives out bottled water for free?

              sophiacherryx @Anthonus | 27 Feb '07, 18:26 | X
              • ...

                I assumed that because I'd asked for a GLASS of water, the fact she'd given me a bottle instead indicated that it didn't matter what recepticle the liquid arrived in because it was gratis.

                Also, the water was warm.

                Also, it was in a stupid pando pops like bottle.

                Also, she was an idiot.

                In her defence, we were in Shoreditch.

                Stealthy @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 18:38 | X
            • Depends

              where you go. Most venues want stipulation. Most pubs dont.

              Alex_b | 27 Feb '07, 18:36 | X
            • i don't usually specify tap

              i would usually say "can I just have some water please", so they usually get the idea

              IF they did give me a bottle though i would have the sense to refuse it and not pay, instead clarifying that i wanted tap not bottled at that point.

              tobythecat | 27 Feb '07, 18:37 | X
              • exactly

                SENSE!

                sophiacherryx @tobythecat | 27 Feb '07, 18:52 | X
                • well we still disagree

                  i don't usually specify TAP. but i would also not be stupid enough to pay for a bottle if they gave me one.

                  tobythecat @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 18:53 | X
                  • yeah thats what i meant about sense

                    people calling stealthy stupid is making me laugh so much : D

                    sophiacherryx @tobythecat | 27 Feb '07, 19:03 | X
                    • stealthy = stupid

                      still tickling your funnybone?

                      tobythecat @sophiacherryx | 27 Feb '07, 19:04 | X
                      • : )

                        sophiacherryx @tobythecat | 27 Feb '07, 19:11 | X
            • Stealthy is clearly

              a water purchasing n00b.

              Saying that, all expectations as to reasonable standards of decency must be discarded when entering Cargo.

              chiaroscuro | 27 Feb '07, 18:48 | X
            • DiS= Arguments about water

              we oficially have no life whatsoever.

              Alex_b | 27 Feb '07, 19:06 | X
              • i love stoopid debates like this

                it shows up the noobs, like stealthy :D

                sophiacherryx @Alex_b | 27 Feb '07, 19:13 | X
            • Is the "easy tiger" water

              gave out for free?

              breadfan | 27 Feb '07, 19:21 | X
            • fucking hell

              the guardian and a large chunk of its readership are horrfically idiotic. not based on that article, obviously, but reading other ones.

              it upsets me.

              Heliotrope @_vikram | 27 Feb '07, 20:05 | X
              • LOL AT MY TYPO!!!!!

                Heliotrope @Heliotrope | 27 Feb '07, 20:06 | X
              • any paper's 'core' readership includes more than its fair share of fools

                imho

                ex_cynic @Heliotrope | 27 Feb '07, 20:22 | X
                • this is true of everything

                  sophiacherryx @ex_cynic | 27 Feb '07, 20:30 | X
                  • perhaps.

                    but the guardian readership often tends to come across as quite juvenile and sillily predjudiced.

                    Heliotrope @ex_cynic | 28 Feb '07, 10:05 | X
                  • do we think that stealthy has learnt something from this

                    ?

                    creakyknees | 27 Feb '07, 22:31 | X
                    • ...

                      I've learnt NOTHING!

                      Stealthy @creakyknees | 28 Feb '07, 00:17 | X
                      • well you're a fool then

                        sophiacherryx @Stealthy | 28 Feb '07, 02:35 | X
                        • i

                          sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:12 | X
                          • just

                            sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:12 | X
                            • have

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                              • to

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                                • rid

                                  sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:13 | X
                                  • my

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                                    • profile

                                      sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:13 | X
                                      • SHIT

                                        ITS NOT WORKING!

                                        damn you guntrip! damn you to hell!
                                        :'(((((

                                        sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:14 | X
                                        • cv

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                                          • me

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                                            • heartbreaker you got the best of me

                                              sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:15 | X
                                              • but i just keep

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                                                • on

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                                                  • coming back incessantly

                                                    sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:15 | X
                                                    • woah oh oh

                                                      sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:15 | X
                                                      • YAYA

                                                        ITS GONE!

                                                        I RULE!

                                                        sophiacherryx @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:16 | X
                                                        • don't worry

                                                          it's still on mine

                                                          jp100 @sophiacherryx | 28 Feb '07, 03:18 | X
                                                          • FUCK YOU

                                                            im hungry

                                                            sophiacherryx @jp100 | 28 Feb '07, 03:24 | X
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