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this makes me feel sick everytime i read about it. imagine being there. fucking horrific. :(
choked on my lunch reading that. Well done.
and last year on the 25th anniversary of the incident they tried to open another nightclub on the same spot. I thought that was a bit sick
that is sick.
and therefore I know loads of people who lost relations in the accident
shit. i don't know anyone. :(
my area was still being built back then and it was one of the few nightclubs around
and neither of my parents are from dublin... actually they were living in sandymount. *ha!*
but it's hardly suprising. It was 25 years ago and in a different country.
never heard of this. it was 30 years ago and in a different country...
they were vietnamese, and thus real people that matter
and now feel truthfully bad.
Not to be insensitive Sarah, but it's a bit dubious to compare 48 people dying in a disaster like that to the Vietnam war.
Have you heard of this?
And of course:
Personally I wouldn't expect you too. They're hardly big news outside of their respective communities but equally comparable, surely?
Re: Below post.
It probably has more resonance due to the smallness of the community involved. If it had happened in London it would only be sporadically remembered.
and given the amount of irish in england, i would be surprised that no one would have heard about it.
And all their generation but it's not the kind of thing that gets passed down as such.
Anyway on another point what's with all the banning of songs and shit (I've been researching), that's dumb. Blatantly Ireland just wants to be Turkey.
but then they don't like to talk about home.
it makes me feel sick.
I'd never heard of it before, and sure it looks it was very sad but comparing it to Vietnam is quite insulting to the people that died in the war.
vietnam re: people that died. rather attempting to point out that just because it was in another country that obviously you wouldn't have heard of it.
IndyAndy just said it wasn't surprising we hadn't for that reason.
I'm one of the older ones here and even I was only 6 when it happened. I'd guess Creaky and JDT would probably remember it being on the news but it's unlikely any of our parents would remember this that much unless, like you say, they happened to be Irish.
Read the Moorgate Tube Crash page. It's a little concerning.
people know about the Vietnam war because it was a great big fucking war and not about fires in Vietnam that killed 50 or so people (I'm sure there must have been some). Likewise people know about the potato famine because it was a great big fucking famine and not about fires that killed 50 or so people. It's all about perspective and the bigger something is the further away news of it will reach.
i just found a larger example to illustrate my point.
Then we'd all know:
"‘Sunday Bloody Sunday’. What a great song. It really encapsulates the frustration of a Sunday, doesn’t it? You wake up in the morning, you’ve got to read all the Sunday papers, the kids are running round, you’ve got to mow the lawn, wash the car, and you think 'Sunday, bloody Sunday!'"
I quote this because I actually only know the Potato Famine existed but I know none of the details, etc.
and it fucked all the potatoes which were a main source of food/income for the irish peasants who all lived on the estates of rich english (usually) absentee landlords. coupled with the famine many were then also turfed/burned out of their homes for failure to pay rent etc. and so emigrated or died. meanwhile all other crops were still being exported. others were put to work on roads that go nowhere (google famine roads) for food.
in a nutshell
They weren't put to work on the roads, Peel created the roads scheme as a way of getting some kind of aid to the starving. Remember this was a time before any remote concept of welfare state and trying to achieve anything that went against the prevalent lassiez faire attitude of the time. In fact the Tories removed Peel and put the Whigs into power because they believed he was doing too much to help.
BTW, I'm not trying to defend Peel, he could've done so much more, but I do get fed up with a lot of the uninformed (usually from my mother) stuff that gets said on the topic.
and also... a lot of the roads they were put to work on WERE pointless and went nowhere. they just made them work for food. you can see all these non-roads up where i used to live. they go on for ages into the mountains and then just stop.
that's what you said.
I love agreement
It caused nearly as much death and suffering in Ireland as...er....the English.
kind of makes the above more real. as such.