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be four places in a so-called "Champions" League!
In the good old days it was called the European Cup and the Champions of each country entered a proper knock-out competition. Lose and you were out, end of.
Unlike nowadays, where you can finish fourth in your domestic league, lose half a dozen games or so in the European Cup, still go on to win it and be crowned "Champions Of Europe".
This once great competition is now devalued by the marketing men, who need any old ploy to keep the richest clubs in there even if they aren't the best teams.
completely. Also, that would have meant those fucking cunts United wouldn't have done the treble in 99.
because we haven't been the best team in England in the last 2 seasons.
We were the best team in 99 bar none, we deserved it
but the point was that you weren't the champs going in, as we had won the title in 98.
Im glad. I like Platini. He was my dad's favourite player after Cruyff.
I wish he had stuck to his original idea of cutting the Champions League right back and reforming the Cup Winners Cup though. Plus, hopefully the European Championship won't be expanded to 24 teams now.
Only France should have 4 places.
Maybe even 10 places.
Then we'll have a chance to win it !
Lyon are my bet for this year.
You're A Lille man if my memory serves me correct right? Lyon winning it would be a be the French equivalent an unholy combination of Chelsean and Man Utd winning wouldn't it? as in 'Hooray for our football, but did it have to be those fuckers?'
No way I would support my home team ( Paris SG... )
French football appears not to carry the deeply ingrained sense of brazen envy and badmouthing that English football does. Fair play to you sir.
because the PSG is so shit...
I'd imagine that they might not be too ruffled by the whole 4 down to 3 thing because by and large, the members are amongst the top 3 teams for their country. However, I can see the Spanish and English league representatives being unhappy about this especially with non-members such as Chelsea, and to a lesser extent Sevilla and Valencia pushing for those top 3 places...
any more than 1 team per country?
It's supposed to be the Champions League ffs, so therefore only the Champions of each participating country should be eligible.
You take away 3 of the 4 biggest teams for each country, including potentially that with the greatest support, and you reduce the income of the tournament significantly, albeit increasing its prestige by a lot as well. Meaning it probably won't happen
having 3/4 teams is fairer in terms of the domestic leagues too. Spreading the money around 3 teams keeps some competition in there instead of one team from each league getting it each each year and establishing an unnassaileable hegemony over all others, who require foreign investment to get anywhere near the top...
Hang on a minute...
I expect the G14 to exert their muscle fairly soon regarding Platini's ideas.
I doubt the G14 will be happy. 4 places means that they can afford to have mediocre seasons (by their standards) and still get Champions League football. Real Madrid, Arsenal and Milan would be sweating if there were only 3 places available this season.
is that the G14 will find a big financial backer and create their own league ( like in Basketball, when the Euroleague was created without the FIBA ).
because at the end of the day, football is a money game. Look at the premier league whaen it broke away from the football league.
doesn't make it right.
Why should mediocrities like Liverpool get European Cup football every year for finishing 4th?
It's just wrong.
Beating Juventus, Chelsea AND ac milan along the way proves that we're worthy of European football. 83 points lats year and a 3rd place finish (which is also what we're heading for this year) surely put us A) above mediocrity and C) within even Platinis estimations of a CL-worthy team.
Liverpool haven't won their domestic league for nearly two decades.
The European Cup was created for the Champions of each participating league.
The UEFA Cup was created for runners up and also rans, something Liverpool have consistently been for this period of time.
If Forest experienced a resurgence to this point? Fact of the matter is, The champions are not always the best team in the country. They do not always play the best football. Current champions? Chelsea. Best football atm? Pains me to say it but Utd are. That's looking like it'll lead them to the title, but if we went by your rules, they wouldn't be playing.
My opinion for the least is that the Champions Lge. doesn't suffer from the amount of teams within it. Having the best 3 or 4 teams from each major footballing country makes it an altogether more appealing prospect, and despite what you can say, Liverpool, last season and right now are among the top 3 teams in the country.
Forest qualified for European competition English clubs were banned because of the actions of Liverpool fans.
As far as I am concerned, a Champions League is for Champions, not teams who consistently finish 15-20 points behind!
Liverpool are third at the minute - 11 points behind the current leaders - but that does not give them any of their supporters a divine right to say they are Champions!
At the end of the day, the only reason this so-called "Champions" league exists is to get plastic clubs such as Liverpool into the European Cup, as without it your lot wouldn't have been there for over 15 years. FACT.
It's to make money.
Big leagues give big TV money to have more than one team to show.
but they need the big plastic money clubs in that the armchair fans enjoy watching to be able to make money, hence the fact if Chelsea win the League, and only the Champions go through, they don't have the worldwide fanbase of Man U, Arsenal or Liverpool.
tried to do it a few years ago...
Now with russian money, everything is possible !
Is Platini well liked in France?
Not sure Aulas like his ideas that much...
his team is going in the Stock Market...
he was my 2nd favourite. I have the 84 European Championship on DVD. The semi-final is soooooooooo good!
was better !
but I'm not keen on his other plans i.e. 4 linesman, and no use of video technology.
his introduction of a posh puma in every team and goalkeepers made out of brass that I really object to
But you might become horrible too if you had to watch every PSG game...