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yeah urm cheers, but Reading is the 17th largest settlement, and the largest town, in England, based on the population of the urban sub-area, I think it stems from Queen Victoria hating the poor place so much. so lets end this fickle argument there shall we.
a shit hole, though
but at least it has the greatest football team in the world!
i nominate bridgewater in somerset.
the most depressing place in the world. It just had a lot of roads and no trees.
you can buy good cheap fried chicken which makes up for the lack of trees.
trees galore. lots of trees in kew tooooo!
does it have a cathedral? no!
curry in bradford. better than rusholme.
you can a better and cheaper one in Leicester.
comparing rusholme and bradford. never been to leicester.
glasgow is excellent for curry.
in manchester are vile, though. and genetically predisposed to violence. and always fucking angry.
maybe you're right, but people in newcastle are much friendlier.
i've never met anyone in the 8 months i've lived here. i loathe this city and would burn it to the ground.
i quite like it
and don't really see what's so detestible about it compared with other places
the people in manchester are just really stuck up and pretentious. except for the people in newton heath, obviously.
i've barely met anyone here that i liked and manchester is pretty unique in that respect.
where do you find these lovely people?
both shit but Southampton just a little bit more shit
end of debate
There are worse places - Newport is grim, Winchester is an overrpiced wank hole
Southampton has some decent bars and music venues, Joiners is a brilliant place.
It suffers from in 1940's German designed arcitecture though, along with Portsmouth
wrong. Winchester is an excellent location, close proximity to Soton & P'mouth for good music venues. It has loads of nice places to hang out. Good pubs, no nasty clubs. It was expensive to live there, in terms of rent as a student, but I managed to get by.
I'll eat my hat. Lived in Southampton for 6 years, and been on nights "out" in winchester on numerous occassions. Populated with pretencious knobheads with more money than sense, and not one decent pub (except maybe the Wykeham Arms)
Its only saving feature is the cathedral, which is the most magnificant one in britain, and only beaten by the Mesquita in Cordoba for religious buildings I have been to
I like Winchester. At least it's pretty.
Southampton is pretty rubbish.
Winchester is all pretty and no substance. Southampton is not an attractiva place, but we have the Germans to thank for that
to eat your hat now? Also the Mash Tunn (but I actually think that's gone now) and the Black Boy.
It was nice with a bit of salsa and guacomole
newpaaaart. it's horrible.
so, so horrible.
torquay also. beautiful place, but when nightfall comes it's the most violent place i've been in a long time.
the worst PLACES in the UK are in the south east ... it's just they aren't cities.
there are worse places in scotland than dundee. like kirkcaldy and glenrothes.
you cheeky witch
it'd win this contest by a mile. It's hideous, and all my family live there which means i have to go there ALL THE TIME :(
cumbernauld? is that a city? it always looks supernaturally ugly in pictures.
a friend of a friend comes from broughty ferry near dundee. moneyed there, apparently.
- it's ruuuuubbish.
what's it called?
what's it like
still, gregory's girl was good
It is shite. My house is nice though.
I did not find a single good thing in Inverness.
i love inverness :( i was born there
so were three of my brothers, and I was born down the road in Forres. Ace city, Inverness.
As is Dundee. It might look shit when you're inside it, but if you go across the river and look at it from over there at night, it looks stunning. We lived in Broughty Ferry. No money though..!
to second the nominations for Hull and Bradford.
And add that I have an absolute hatred for Leicester for no real reason. Fucking place.
and as such deserves no place in any top or bottom 10.
i liked living in leicester. loads of great record shops and some nice pubs. and the diwali celebrations were always great fun. still, three years there as a student was about enough.
...it doesn't pretend to be anything it isn't, bless it. Its no Nottingham, granted, but its the second least crap place in the East Midlands.
Market Harborough is a shithole though.
can you tell me some of the merits of this 'Harborough'?
is a bit of a shithole
i raise the point...not actually a city...
as a whole is a big pile of i wish i was as nice as Edinburgh
and in fairness, i think it's exempt because it has the most hilariously unhygenic and generally inept kebab shop ever, which is always worth a laugh.
based on my experience. That town also has an unusually high cunts per metre squared ratio.
it IS a shithole
but Ram's Kebab MUST be the portal to hell.
words cannot describe the place, although the permanent grease stains outside the door that the council couldn't clean off do a fair job.
Has gone downhill since Club Zeus shut down. I don't think any town could survive the loss of such a place.
And it's not a city either, despite the fact everyone who lives there likes to point out that they have a cathedral and the local team's called 'Chelmsford City'...
I spent 24 hours there and thought I was going to die of boredom.
has had a thriving indie scene for bloody yonks you fool!!!! I have been 'going out' in Durham since the mid 80's. The indie scene has been huge. Various pubs (Elm Tree, Angel etc) cater for the indie/rock scene.
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT!!!
a teeny little town, you cant call it a city!
although it does have a cathedral
I got treated like shit in Exeter by shop and security staff alike. I don't know if happen to look like a well known tea-leaf from Exeter but they sure didn't want me in their shops
do get such a horrible opinion of manchester? i'm by no means a flag-waver, but it's really really good here. i'm a little bored of it at the moment, but i've live here since i was 0 so that's understandable.
people are friendly if you
a. are in a non-shit place
b. make a little effort
but did not state it for fear of being a) a flagwaver or b) 84joe.
"i'm a friendly kind of person."
i'm actually a moderately friendly kind of person. but i've lived here since September 2002 and i don't know a single person.
i don't GO anywhere ... i occasionally sit in pubs on my own. any attempt i've ever made to begin polite conversation with someone is usually rebuked. often offensively.
and i'm a horribly quiet bastard.
Also, Sunderland isn't THAT bad. At least it's trying to get better. Plus Newcastle is only 20 minutes away!
full of cunts
she seems to really like it, as did my parents.
my only experience is the ferry. that counts as really awful.
Middlesbrough - because it's one big windswept chemical factory teetering into the polluted grey sea.
what a shithole.
still gets my vote. The pain associated with those 3 days may haunt me forever
City of London
City Of London and Westminster are full of criminals. The others are awful snobby shitholes that hate outsiders.
bath is beautiful, and really nice. It's so homely.
and it's not snobby at all.
The place is full of students, and the locals here are really friendly, the pubs are very welcoming and pleasant to everyone, and everyone is far more friendly than most people in essex, or even most people I met in newcastle or manchester.
Students aren't "outsiders"
they come from all over the country (and world) to invade Bath. how can you not quantify that as outsider status?
JDT is right.
we DO hate outsiders
you said 'jerk'
is full of outsiders, it couldn't possibly hate them!
we were living in the 16th century for a minute there.
Two local authority areas in London hold city status - the City of London and the City of Westminster. There's nothing 16th Century about it - it's a very real administrative division.
i cant beleive that nobodies mentioned nottingham yet.... i love it.... tho so do some people with guns ... and knives
Though I haven't actually been to the north. Apart from Manchester, which didn't actually seem that bad.
For the millionth time.
It's just the architecture...
i miss it though
To be honest though, the worst places in the UK by and large don't hold City status. Personally my most hated place is probably either Lowestoft or Milton Keynes, but the latter may just be me having to spend so much time being bored there as a kid.
3. Stoke on trent
5. ... don`t have a 5th
Bradford and Wakefield.
Hull isn't that close, but deserves a mention anyway.
it's basically a representation of the end of civilisation.
ever go to Milton Keynes.
Reading would come a close second, though. it just seems to be a series of roundabouts and decaying houses somewhere west of Slough.
Belfast hasn't been mentioned. That surprises me somewhat.
or chelmsford, ever
Derby, Leeds, & Manchester. In that order.
that is what you think of, plus the drab high street, when you think of soton. yes, there are nice bits, but they are outnumbered by the shitty mediocrity of the main bit.
1. The DLR bit of London - Deptford, that bit.
3. Spennymoor (where I grew up - it's in County Durham).
4. Some of the really inbred villages on the East Yorkshire Coast (Hornsea, Harpham, etc.)
5. Milton Keynes/Bedford/any one of the various nondescript Home Counties Satellite Towns. Agh.
i quite like it.
The city centre is pretty forgettable, blighted by the aforementioned crap architecture. But there are much worse places in the country for that. Besides, we have really good historic buildings, a great art gallery, a top-class university and we do very well for open spaces. Could be a lot worse.
its okay when you're over 18 and can go to bars and drive and do other things, but when you're young its mindnumbingly dull, thus making live music the only thing to do...
its just a big mixture, but its the concrete blocks of crap that make up the main precinct shops, now dominated by the evil glass cathedral to capitalism that is west quay thats a bit soul destroying.
That's how I feel about it really. It's no worse than the many other cities in this country that were bombed in the war and replaced with hundreds of concrete shops in the '60s. In fact, it's a heck of a lot better than most - Coventry for example is like Southampton but moreso, and with none of the saving graces.
do an amazing futuristic city centre thingy postwar but the council wanted to make money quick from the shopowners rates so they just stuck up any old shit as quick as possible, and its all still there. there's quite a good book about it i looked at for my masters.
the same about me i hear
i'm southampton's saving grace
is closed. the manager from there left and opened a fopp in the same road. the BASTARD. i used to eat my lunch sat on the benny hill memorial bench at tauntons college. true fact.
girls round it, obviously.
psychocandy in essential. and my prodigy greatest hits there too.
see the first post
no one's mentioned Derby!
Absolute shithole. Basically a small town with the added bonus of a cathedral.
Leicester ain't that bad. Like someone said earlier it doesn't pretend to be anything its not, it's just a standard English City. I've lived in Belfast, Edinburgh and London and they were great fun but with a few exceptions, most cities in this country of yours are pretty much the same, same restaurants, same bars, same vile bigots.
To quote Brian Friel:-
'It's just another place to live'.
With everyone who says Chelmsford. A city so shit it's not even a city, despite being one really.
What a tedious, characterless shithole.
the bloody A52...
5. st albans
leicester is a near palace in comparison, and having lived in rusholme and leicester, the curries are cheaper in leicester.
I started uni here a couple of months ago expecting it to be fucking bleak but it's actually really cool. Two or three good clubs, a couple of small music venues, an independent cinema, an ice rink.. I'm seeing Youthmovies and Adam Gnade tonight in Hull too!
As for shit places, I fucking hate Portsmouth, I always think Birmingham is really disappointing too, considering how big it is. I like the reservoir though, that's awesome.
portsmouth is the worst city ever, but also the best.
a city is not the worst in the UK just because you haven't made any friends there yet and strangers don't speak to you. What did you expect? Disney? Nobody will bend over backwards to be friendly to you anywhere. You have to make the effort without appearing to over eager. Simple fact is our generation aren't that approachable and people tend to stick to who they know so if you want to make friends you have to make a massive effort to do so.
Stop slagging this city, it owes you nothing.
Reading, Hull and Southampton stand out for me.
Pompey is full of character, nobody can deny that, and some of it is genuinely lovely, but I'm glad I don't live there anymore - it allows me to romanticise it, and miss it.
but comparing Reading to basingstoke and Hull is just a bit too far.
what about Doncaster, Swindon, Newport, Carlisle etc?