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Acceptance that in order to exist in society, a person must spend 50%+ of their time in the workplace.
I AM AT HOME WITH NO JOB!
to further the worth of my soul as a human being - no, well not my job atleast
office-based 'service' jobs that make me want to become a farmer.
make me sick, always whining about EU subsidies. Get a proper job.
like Bret Michaels or Sebastian Bach.
She has a 5-year plan.
she's also the least connected-to-reality person i know. coincidence?
a merkhin groomer.
and this also makes sure that most people will not progress at all
I pretty much even out my income and outcome each month. No profit or saving for me. But I get a fat payrise at Christmas, so things may change then.
it is the exception rather than the norm, I have friends that work less than half the working day but in just a couple of years have become millionaires. A wisely-placed investment means never having to work, if you get a bit of luck with it
Don't keep it to yourself.
particular boat sailed ages ago.
I was on the shore, waving them off, telling them not to be so stupid.
Now who's laughing, eh? Not me!
I quite like being at work, gives me a purpose.
you don`t like wasting time on the net at work & your job gives you a purpose.. are you a pornstar? do you work in willy wonka`s choc factory? :)
in a useful way
persuade big companies that saving energy also saves them money and suddenly they all think its a good idea
i have no idea what i'd do with my all the time as i'm a talentless hack. easy come, easy go. NEXT!
not the spice mines of Kessel
the 9-5 is a point of focus that means you get prescribed a function and point? And this you're happy with?
To much pointing in that post
For me it means I can justify being a lazy piece of shit the rest of the time.
I got out of a particularly gruesome encounter with some of my cousins last week because I was "too tired from work" and "had some deadlines".
Okay yeah, I did have deadlines, but in reality, I just got season 5 of 24 and I would rather watch Jack Bauer kick the arse of terror than share a meal in which the main topic of conversation is "...so... finished Uni? Got a job? How's your mum?"
got season 5? Is it off t'interweb? I'm trying to be good and wait until November...
Strategic Ebaying. I gather they don't allow people to sell TV shows they've taped off the telly because after I ordered it they sent me an e-mail telling me the auction had been removed for contravening policy. I'd already paid the guy however and both of us were of the opinion that "fuck Ebay, I want money/24". Everyone wins.
i just wouldn't know what to do otherwise. it's like an anchor i can base my life around, i guess, as it gives everything else a bit of meaning.
What's wrong with living a pointless existence?
of a lazy surrender to meaninglessness...
you were to accept pointlessness as a lifestyle choice, would that immediately gives your life a purpose and therefore a point?
Embracing meaninglessness is interesting. But there are steps that can be taken afterwards too. Rejection of received ideas of meaning, function and point lead directly into hedonism as a philosophy.
at least not a point which anyone will remember.
Are you advocating living outside society, refusing to help support the society you live in by working? or are you suggesting that people should use their natural skills and aptitudes to benefit society? If so, I'd like to inform you that I am, that just happens to involve being in an office a fair amount.
Unless you feel like becoming some kind of hermit. Natural skills to benefit society: yeah, that's cool. I guess people have wildly different ideas of what benefits society, but yeah.
right now I'm doing design work for a sports centre in Watford.
As far as I can tell, people like sports centres, and sports centres are good for them. So I figure that is good for society.
It is also good for me as I get paid fairly well.
what about mothers, retired, young people and that?
my dream is to live on a farmstead with some chicken, a cow, veg gardens and stuff, send Mr Slicky out to work part-time for mortgage/bill purposes but generally be self-sufficient and self feeding. This probably won't happen for 20 years or so though.
read 'mothers' as 'monsters', and found myself thinking that you had a good point. Monsters don't work 9-5, do they? They seem to get on alright...
there's even a job site SPECIAL for them but do they suffer the grind of the officeblock, the pain of only salt and vinegar or cheesey onion in the vender, the can you book 20gazillion inductions for tomorrow?
Do they buggerio.
even mothers, retired and young people are marginalised by a lack of money and thought of as a drain on society. It's all about being economically productive for as long as possible. Mothers are encouraged to work, old people to stay in work longer, young people to get jobs earlier.
= at least 84hrs per week
assuming 8hrs sleep per day, that's 56hrs per week, which is a very rare level of work.
do you spend travelling to work each day?
technically I live 5 minutes up the road
in reality I spend an hour each way on circuitous buses
but I only sleep 6hrs :P
I'll be awake for 4.2% less each day
Will I live for 4.2% more years?
Hour each way for me. Ideal for reading the paper. I wouldn't have it any other way. Hell, I'd have a longer journey. I could finish the paper and tackle a meaty book about something boring - that's the life.
can't beat that.
What do I win?
I for example test computer systems, which means that I spend all day pissing people off telling them that their work is shit. Then I get home and I have to ring up orange to say their broadband is shit, sky to tell them that their service is shit, hsbc the same etc etc.
Basically, it seems as if I exist to tell people that what they do is shit. So I spend all day getting paid to tell people they are shit, then I pay for shit services when I get out of work. The great cycle of society and I want out.
I have a plan, I don't think it will ever come to fruition, but there is a plan. You basically cannot do anything without money, you can't even setup yourself to be self-sufficient without either having something to invest or to provide an initial outlay.
Every girlfriend I've ever had seems to think differently though, I wonder why that is?
Sounds like a good job. Now I have to fabricate a relevent degree so I can apply for one like it.
Its crappy. I haven't had a full time job for four years...working sucks...takes up all of your mental space, even when you aren't doing it.
I used to get home from work, mooch about for a couple of hours, and then dream I was at work until I work up, and went to work...dreadful.
So, yes, I am 43 years old and still living with my mum, but no, I don't dream I'm at work any more.
The getting up, going, talking to workmates, doing the job, lunching, working, tiredness after work - it's all encompassing.
office jobs might be good surely? i would definetely work 50% of my time in the workplace if i liked what i was doing and my job was socially responsible. + i could take reasonable holiday and not have to hand in my holiday request 2 months in advance.
social responsibilty = job satisfaction.
I wonder how many people feel the same / feel their job has a positive social impact.
while i don't especially enjoy my job (it's not especially challenging and most of the people above me are idiots) i know i'm about 100% happier than i would be if i was hawking myself out to a corporation instead of a local council.
thats for me personally. I temped/worked briefly screwing people over by offering them unsecure loans, i actually told people not to bother unless it was really necessary. There were people though who took it seriously and wanted to have the 'top sales' get bonuses etc.
I suppose my views would probably change slightly if i had a family to support.
im pretty sure ill always have the view that social responsibilty will always be pretty high, making money is just the by product not the aim of why i work. if that makes sense.
working in education I do feel that mt job has 'worth' more than filling some companies pockets.
Having said that this sense of worth is fairly poorly paid, but
ethics > money everytime for me.
I'm at the University and while it isn't the most stimulating work I know I'm working for a decent enough establishment.