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Someone must have mentioned this somewhere...
How you think he'll do?
but i am pretty chuffed that he's doing anything, really. i just like seeing him on TV. </gay4roy>
i hope he's successful. and i hope he flies off the handle loads of times on the way.
He is to tempremental, where as someone like Pearce is fiery yet inspiring I imagine Keane would be more like Souness fiery and pissing the players off.
i think he could be a good manager i think, much in alex fergusons mould, very tough, get players respect, but i dont think sunderland is the best place to start
And maybe Roy Keane is the right kind of appointment in the way that they can live off the buzz for a few months. In the long run though, I'm not sure. Will definitely be a Fergie type manager though.
is assistant so it may be that Keane doesn't actually do too much. Kidd took a lot of credit for Man Utd's mid 90s success when he was assistant manager.
We've never seen a keener
Back up the ladder
Into each corner
Dunking the chamois
Just think of the goodwill
The ladders are planets
Roy is a star, and
I am a satellite
But that's alright
He can hold a smile
For as long as you require
He can hold a smile
For as long as you require
Roy's keen oh, Roy's keen
to realise what/who 'we/you are talking about - I assume its the Black Cats? I mean Sunderland and their new manager - funny seeing he's technically replacing Mick McCarthey (ex Rep Ireland Manager who didn't get on with Roy Keen - ex rep Ireland player)
That was for the benefit of anyone lost but erm...interested
i want to see Sunderland 'do a MK Dons (formerly Wimbledon, not in freefall since a controversial franchise decision) but then I like them at the same time. Oh dear.
So. Have we any converts to 'the football'?
why do you want to see sunderland do an MK Dons?
"Chairman, and current manager, Niall Quinn reacted to the Carling Cup defeat at Bury by announcing he was close to appointing "a world-class manager" - and it appears that man is actually someone who has never managed at any level."
I couldn't believe this thread was about Sunderland. A world-class manager? World class players do not necessarily make world class managers.
oh for fuck's sake, who cares?
It's a big story and we're discussing it. Isn't that what forums are for?
no, the whole 'world class' thing ... who cares?
he's just a silly naive man who makes stupid pronouncements and didn't realise the scale of the task he had taken on. doesn't matter that he said 'world class'
before I knew what job it was for.
It's a massive gamble by Niall Quinn and I'm sceptical. I'd like to see Roy Keane be a successful manager but this is a big job to take on and I think he might be out of his depth. We'll have to wait and see.
might be good and he might not, but I don't think I'd be happy as a Sunderland fan. He's totally unproven with a tendancy to be a complete hothead, is that really the man you want to rely on when your team is on a bit of a downward slope? Surely you get in someone proven to stabilise the ship first?
It's a huge gamble because although he's a strong character and he's worked under two of the greatest managers ever, Bryan Robson shows that learning from Alex Ferguson is not a guarantee of success.
there are a few reasons why i think this might be a good thing for sunderland
1) it kills speculation about who the first proper manager will be and when he'll be appointed. the players will know where they stand
2) keane is a big name and will change the atmosphere at the club which could help turn results around
3) clearly very ambitious
4) natural leader and fairly bright
5) played under this country's two best managers of the last 25 years
obviously, he could easily be shit, though.
the thing that I don't understand is he's coming to be part of a team with Niall Quinn who was one of the people who was vehemently against him when there was all that bother in the World Cup. Either the hatchet has been buried or he's going to sabotage us!
Not that we need to be sabotaged at the moment.
nah they made up
that maybe Niall Quinn has a longstanding grievance with the Sunderland fans? Or maybe just one fan?
Maybe a guy booed him in an away leage cup match against Port Vale in 1997 and he's never forgiven him?
Quinn buying the club is part of his over-arching plan to drag the club into the depths of the lower leagues, purely to get his own back on this one supporter?
he will be one of these managers where the qualities that made him such a great player could work against him (see also: Graeme Souness as breadfan mentioned). He's an undiplomatic, stubborn hothead who reacts rashly and I can see him alienating players and people around him who disagree with him.
I now fully expect him to get Sunderland promoted as champions
(But I've never met him so how would I know?) but I think as a general rule, clubs in a position like Sunderland's (i.e. in freefall) need someone with experience. Brian Kidd might help in that respect I guess but I think it's a tough job and, if it goes badly, could jeopardise Keane's future management career.
even with an experienced manager, sunderland are still likely to go down.