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Anyone know the name of the new-ish one?
It's got an orange shopfront and is towards the Charing X end of the Street
just found out...yeeha.
you already know its Wunjo- I'd just like to take this opportunity to big them up.
Always very very nice when you go in there, ALWAYS get you to try guitars out, even if you are just browsing. The rest on that street are a bunch of utter twats, especially the one that used to be helterskelter- they once wouldn't let me try a relic fender tele, cos I didn't look like I was serious about buying it, and they need to keep them pristine like. A pristine 'relic'. Good one.
Is that because you work at Hanks or Andys?...Can't really speak for Hanks, cos I'm not sure which one it is off the top of my head
At Andys, the guy upstairs in the repair bit is 'okay', and begrudgingly does stuff if you ask him to, but he's grumpy and deeply unfriendly and not above sneering at the guitar you take in there.
I once tried to buy a set of strings in Andys- ernie balls or something cheap, and they tried to charge me eight quid, cos the guy just didn't know how much they were supposed to be, so made up a price, til I called him up on it.
RE: Guitars being better in Andys- you have GOT to be kidding, right.
Three examples that stick out for me.
Early sixties Futurama II- I have one of these, that I got from a cash converters in Harlow for Forty quid. They are okay little guitars, but not really up to any kind of pro attention.Typical Ebay Price: £100, Typical 'normal guitar shop price' £150, Andys price: £500
Burns Sonic: I lust after these, cos they are again, cool and supposedly cheap. Typical Ebay Price- £300, 'normal shop price' £350, Andy's Price: £750
Heres the clincher for me.
Early sixties Fender Duo-Sonic, non original paint, re-shaped body, non original pickups, bridge, pickguard,pots, tuners- refinished neck. Got that? Only original thing about it was the neck, and that had been refinished. a total dogs dinner, with NO mention of any of the issues on the tag. I would pay no more than £200 for that, and would consider it a just about working project. Ebay price- $200? Normal guitar shop price??? Andys Price £800!!!!!!
This 'good guitars' thing is bollocks. There is no difference between the stock you get in any of those shops, generally, and I've NEVER seen anything as ratty and shite as that Duo Sonic in wunjo. I'd like if you could explain what is shitty about the stock in wunjo? Old gibsons, old fenders? Some nice sixties rickenbackers in there last time I went...I'm confused.
Its nice and all that, but aside from my sansamp pedal, I can always get things cheaper elsewhere.
I imported my last guitar from Japan and saved £500 off what Fender wanted for one officially.
Also a lot of this vintage stuff is just bollocks, the whole vintage thing started cos 70's guitars were rubbish so people started buying the older models and prices went up. Now that those guitars are £20K all of a sudden I'm seeing nasty 70's Strats for £1800......I think not.
well said- NO WAY would I pay two grand for a seventies fender...fucking stupid
Was up there today, actually, and Andys have a burns sonic for £895
Fucking ridiculous. I bought a refinished '56 Fender Musicmaster privately in England for £600, and despite the fact it is a prototype, earliest possible version, felt I paid a little over the odds. Saw a '66 musicmaster in vintage and rare today for a grand and a half!
I know they have high rents to pay, but I'm just amazed they find so many dumbass punters who can't shop around to pay that rent for them...
scroll halfway down, theres an article on Vintage guitars.
Did you see that Jeff Beck esquire reissue- a replica of Jeff Becks fifties esquire that someone contoured to make it feel like a strat, basically totally raping it of any collectibility value if it wasn't for the fact Jeff Beck owned it.
The custom shop reissue of that is selling for eight grand. EIGHT GRAND. You could get a refinned fifties tele for less than that! Fucking ridiculous...
Heres what I'm on about
Thats a real '57 esquire for seven and a half grand, all original, in fairly decent shape
Here's a modern replica of a TOTALLY FUCKED esquire, for a grand more
guitar wankery is for wankers...
I'm not into guitar wankery, I'm just against being ripped off through ignorance.
The Libertines are also for wankers, you fucking tossball
that would be funny if it weren't deliberate...
You think I'm a wanker cool. But I'd look at your profile photo before you start bandering the word "Wanker" around;)
is Angels run by Andy Hackett?
I have never been in their, but keep meaning to...
yup- I normally get strings online, but I snapped one just before a gig at the twelve bar, and Andys was the only place open.
RE: Haggling- yeah, I know they do that- but £200 off the price of that burns sonic is still over twice what someone who doesn't smoke crack would pay- and I still deny your claim that Andy's sell 'better guitars' than wunjo- its just not so.
Locking trems etc are beyond my realm of knowledge- I'm into old guitars...hagstrom, vox, burns, fender etc
Nope, I know you didn't say that- I was replying to Kasete- check his claims further up the thread...!
RE: Vintage guitars- I ALWAYS check ebay and gbase.com, and its just a fuckload cheaper. You can get nice original jazzmasters for around $2500, and I've seen original but stripped early sixties musicmasters and duo sonics (underrated guitars) for $400!
...well, it was a little rich, wunnit? ;)
I went in there last month, had a browse and he pointed out a faked guitar to me, he'd bought it on Ebay, cos he thought it looked OK. But it was a rebadged Tokai, he was a lovely bloke and that kind of honesty goes a long way with me.
Music Ground, I have a very libellous story about them from a guy I met who used to work at their Doncaster Store. However I shall desist from going any further, but they did do me a good price on my Sansamp.
In 1986, most of te big guitar companies paid a royalty to copy the Floyd Rose Trem, many such as Ibanez actually improved on the design.
Pre 1986, Fenders Japanese guitars. Contemporary Range, hasd their own take on the technology, which don't work that well. But trouble is that was 20 years ago so I doubt if you could get parts.
I restored a Yamaha SG1300t last year and in the end I made it fixed bridge and blocked the trem as getting parts was nigh on impossible for a pre Floyd locking trem.
but my words of caution on Denmark Street is that Andy's is the biggest pile of over charging, bullshitting SHIT ever. I totally agree with ThwEbow.. ANDY'S SUCKS ARSE.
I went in there, bought a pedal that to be fair I quite like, and even though I haggled, I saw it in another shop for about £40 less. They're total rip off merchants. Also, whilst I was in there, some foreign bloke came in to buy a guitar and they totally conned him. All this "this was Ray Davies' guitar when he recorded 'Be A Mug and Come To Andy's You Bunch of Cunts".
The expertise in Andy's is SHIT.
The guitars are knackered and 10000 hand and SHIT.
The prices are sky high and SHIT.
The shop even LOOKS SHIT.
Andy's? Bollocks more like.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
Andy's is a total rip-off, avoid.
see also my above rant over their 'burns sonic' for £895(!!!!) and totally, utterly raped Fender Duo Sonic...