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The Strokes

hotline_operator [Edit] [Delete] 52 replies 19:58, 26 June '06

are the most important band of the noughties. DiScuss...

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  • Nah

    It's obviously The Raconteurs.

    therapyrock | 26 Jun '06, 20:00 | X
    • i didn't say

      the most important band of 2006, which is the kooks if todays topic of discussion in anything to go by.

      hotline_operator @therapyrock | 26 Jun '06, 20:01 | X
      • I know

        It was a joke, I've only heard the Raconteurs once!

        therapyrock @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:03 | X
  • why do you have to aggravate me?

    Important. No. I hate that word and its stupid implications in relation to stupid bands.

    bigmanwithagun | 26 Jun '06, 20:00 | X
    • I agree with

      bigmanwithagun

      IrishMagpie @bigmanwithagun | 26 Jun '06, 20:02 | X
      • so a band

        that shook up a stale guitar music scene is not important?

        hotline_operator @IrishMagpie | 26 Jun '06, 20:03 | X
        • You can't say that.

          You're wrong.

          It's like Wrightys thread ages ago (sorry to bring this up) - "How come there was no good albums between 1990-2001"?

          therapyrock @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:05 | X
          • He can,

            and he's right.

            The Strokes were needed immensely. They kicked a load of kids into shape and got them to start writing fucking good music again.

            If it wasn't for the Strokes, music would be in a much duller state today. Fact.

            wrightylew @therapyrock | 27 Jun '06, 12:19 | X
        • ...

          the strokes look and sound like a bunch of kids that dug up some old costumes and thought it would be cool to play dress up for a while. nothing as retro and nostalgic as that can be seen as a shake-up.

          bigmanwithagun @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:08 | X
        • right place right time perhaps?

          out of context they're nothing special. If that's how you define important than fair enough but they're not very important to me. Decent first album though.

          Thom_fa @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:08 | X
          • then*

            Thom_fa @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:08 | X
            • They

              were important in being partly responsible for the proliferation of some very bad bands

              I for one still LOVE my Modern Age EP.

              devonmalcolm @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:11 | X
            • Is This It

              Was a very good, very important album.

              The subsequent two are tedious, average at best rehashes of that album.

              I'd say The Libertines, as I still have a (slightly) romanticised view of them being the band which dragged me away from the mainstream, and, bizarrely, being the band responsible for me starting to listen to practically every other genre, but that may well get me shot down in flames.

              So I'll say, ooh, The Cribs?

              Mackem @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:12 | X
          • so who has been of more

            importance musically, please dont say the muse.

            hotline_operator @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:10 | X
            • my point

              is that the term 'important' is a bit silly so asking me who I think is important is ridiculous. Why you think I would say Muse I can't imagine...

              Thom_fa @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:12 | X
            • what do you mean by important?

              Pete Waterman was "important". If you're trying to ascertain whether they made an impact in the stream of commercial music, then they did. Its obvious. So are you actually trying to discuss whether this was a a good thing or not?

              bigmanwithagun @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:15 | X
              • ^agreeing with thom_fa

                obv.

                bigmanwithagun @bigmanwithagun | 26 Jun '06, 20:16 | X
          • decent second album too

            underrated - so says I.

            benrith @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:12 | X
            • overrated imo.

              Thom_fa @benrith | 26 Jun '06, 20:14 | X
        • to be honest

          look at the bands that came after the Strokes:

          The Libertines
          The Arctic Monkeys
          The Killers
          The Others
          Razorlight

          Average bands if you ask me. Yes there were many good bands that followed the lead of the Strokes, but to say they are important is wrong in my opinion. Also, they have only had one great album.

          IrishMagpie @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:10 | X
        • No single band

          changes a scene.

          therapyrock @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:12 | X
          • We

            all know the answer is Moldy Peaches

            devonmalcolm @therapyrock | 26 Jun '06, 20:14 | X
          • but one single

            band can revitalise a scene and breathe life into it. Would rough trade have signed the libertines if it hadn't been for the strokes?

            hotline_operator @therapyrock | 26 Jun '06, 20:18 | X
            • again, im having a problem with your assumptions..

              breathing "life"? Into what? And when?

              bigmanwithagun @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:19 | X
              • exactly.

                this whole argument is based on the assumption that things can only be important if they are in the mainstream.

                Thom_fa @bigmanwithagun | 26 Jun '06, 20:23 | X
                • you also seem to be working under the assumption that

                  "life" means a slew of derivative bands.

                  bigmanwithagun @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:28 | X
  • Their first album

    couldn't have been timed much better. And Last Nite is pretty much the reason I started listening to 'decent' music about 5 years ago

    If Is This It was released now, The Strokes would not be headlining festivals across the world like they do now. So yeah, in that context, I guess they certainly were an 'important' band at the time. But it depends how different people define 'important'

    Radiohead are pretty important, no?

    dove_from_above | 26 Jun '06, 20:20 | X
    • I was thinking that

      but as much as I love them what they do isn't particularly groundbreaking. Everything they they do is taken from something that went before it.

      Thom_fa @dove_from_above | 26 Jun '06, 20:22 | X
      • I'd say Busted are very very important.

        breadfan @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:24 | X
        • definitely.

          Thom_fa @breadfan | 26 Jun '06, 20:24 | X
          • Busted

            Gave us McFly and The Noise Next Door, and therefore win hands down.

            Oh, and Fightstar as well.

            Mackem @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:26 | X
            • Think about it.

              They are definately more important than the Strokes.

              breadfan @Mackem | 26 Jun '06, 20:28 | X
          • funny.

            hotline_operator @Thom_fa | 26 Jun '06, 20:28 | X
            • Not really.

              Busted were a revelation in terms of record sales and mainstream popularity following the boy/girl band years of the late nineties.

              Thom_fa @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:31 | X
            • It's not a joke.

              They may be a poor pop band, but they did a lot to change music. Don't let you views on their music cloud your opinion.

              breadfan @hotline_operator | 26 Jun '06, 20:32 | X
              • haha

                what an absurd thing to say.

                bigmanwithagun @breadfan | 26 Jun '06, 20:35 | X
                • Fools.

                  breadfan @bigmanwithagun | 26 Jun '06, 20:37 | X
  • I like The Strokes

    quite a lot, actually. But I disagree with the claim.

    How are you measuring importance?

    bamos | 27 Jun '06, 10:53 | X
    • ^exactly

      'importantce' is so subjective!

      does it mean - in terms of influencing people? setting a music trend? a fashion trend?

      ladyoftheflowers @bamos | 27 Jun '06, 11:00 | X
      • The Strokes

        were instrumental in repopularising guitar music in the mainstream. Prior to them, the NME had largely been covering dance and R and B artists for a good few years. This was also at a time when the last great guitar band (Radiohead) had seemingly given up on guitar music (Kid A) and Eric Calpton(twat) had announced that guitar music was dead and bought some decks. Coldplay were successful before the Strokes, but the movement that they spawned (Star Sailor, Turin Brakes et. al.) didn't take off at anything like the same speed until the Strokes had made guitar music cool again. In this respect, The Strokes were important.

        benrith @ladyoftheflowers | 27 Jun '06, 11:13 | X
        • good answer

          ladyoftheflowers @benrith | 27 Jun '06, 11:21 | X
        • Guitar music

          There was always guitar music in the mainstream. Anyone remember Garage rock phase and the nu-metal trend?

          therapyrock @benrith | 27 Jun '06, 12:14 | X
          • Fair enough

            there were guitar movements that popped up to fill the void - NuMetal and the New Acoustic Movement, but they were all pretty much passing fads in terms of the mainstream. Trance and garage were WAY more popular - they used to put So Solid Crew on the front cover of the NME for fucks sake! The movement that The Strokes started is still going on 5 years later.

            benrith @therapyrock | 27 Jun '06, 12:30 | X
  • most impotent band maybe

    i think my answer to your questio though was no

    BeeAsBigAsABiscuit | 27 Jun '06, 11:05 | X
  • no

    it's obviously JAG

    Jamie_Summers | 27 Jun '06, 11:41 | X
    • Gay Dad

      or Terris.

      adumcs @Jamie_Summers | 27 Jun '06, 12:15 | X
      • I really liked Terris

        benrith @adumcs | 27 Jun '06, 12:31 | X
  • Definitely.

    They kicked it all off again.

    wrightylew | 27 Jun '06, 12:20 | X
    • And

      they are important because they brought rock n roll back into the scene.

      I remember around that time, it was toilet 'metal' sewage like Limp Biscuit that was all the rage. Metal alone is such a terrible genre, something had to come and tell it to piss off.

      The fact they were stylish made it all the better. If people want to be like someone because they like the way they dress and play in a band, I say good luck.

      Who wants to idolise some fat fuck just because he can play his guitar a million times faster than anyone else?

      wrightylew @wrightylew | 27 Jun '06, 12:23 | X
      • It's time

        that Topshop started selling something else?

        bamos @flippineck | 27 Jun '06, 12:44 | X
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