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because I haven't heard anything by them.

But it's always been that way.

Worst band ( apart from a lot of french ones but that doesn't count ) I've ever seen.
And I still hate Keane.
But I stil like Embrace.
And King Adora.
And Coldplay.
And Thirteen Senses.
Silly me !

I think people exaggerate their hate for mainstream bands so when they say 'actually they're ok' it sounds like a more major turnaround.

I can say with some conviction that sean or crablin have never influenced what I think of anyone.

reassessment going on as well.

I dislike both bands though, but horses and courses and all that.

there are some people that tend to follow what Crablin or Sean says blindly or not say anything positive about a band until they have (of which The Kooks is a good reference), but i wouldnt say these were the majority by a long way.

For the most part there is a lot of solid arguements from both sides on any band no matter how 'big' they are.

Find me some evidence, like people posting in that thread as if they'd always liked them who previously said how much they hated the Kooks.

...I mean I posted on Crablin's thread but haven't on any of the "I hate the Kooks threads" but it's definitely not 'cos of who posted it.

It' just that I'm pretty neutral on the Kooks and don't care enough to start arguing with people trying to defend them but I like a couple of the songs enough to say "yeah, they're alright" in response to someone. Which is what I did here.

On the whole I just steer clear of "I hate the..." threads 'cos they quickly get really dull and repetitive. Even when it's someone I don't like (i.e. all the Sandi Thom ones the other week) the threads quickly became the same opinion repeated over and over again ad nauseum.

And I'm more likely to post on "I like the..." threads 'cos they tend to have a wider range of opinions and therefore discussion.

So surely it's not so much the school gang mentality so much as that people who are neutral about bands can't be bothered to argue negative opinions but are happy to back up positive ones.

It's surely the same in conversation? If you're talking about music and someone criticises someone you don't care too much for but don't actually dislike, surely you don't usually try and force an argument. But if someone says they like someone you like a bit then you might agree n'est pas?

If a lesser-known poster has said this, he would be outlawed and lynched.