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Stephen Adams is 21st century
Chris T-T is 21st century
Gruff Rhys is 21st century
Iain Ross is 21st century
So i say not quite.
Chris T-T is patchy
Gruff Rhys..he's the guy off of Super Furries, right? Yeah, he's alright.
The others? I have never heard of them. Not knowingly, anyway.
I've just seen the Shins though, so I've got to agree with the original post. BIG BAG OF ACE.
but I think he is a fantastic songwriter.
Iain Ross is from Bearsuit. Unless i got his name wrong.
Stephen Adams is from Broken Family Band.
i forgot to include Grandmaster Gareth...
Broken Family Band I have to concede to being unfamiliar with.
Grandmaster Gareth - now you're talking :)
And Bob - you're wrong. Last time I saw them, I thought they were awful on toast, seriously boring and just plain shite. Tonight though, they were special. In my opinion, obviously...
Oh and that reminds me - add Jimbob Carter to that list. And yes i mean his 21st century stuff...
They were ordinary in places. Some songs, such as Kissing The Lipless and Girl on the Wing were really great but they were lacklustre at times, particularly on Those to Come and Pressed in a Book. I really don't like Koko though. I'm still looking forward to seeing them on Sunday though, just not as much as I was.
I'm still not really convined I like them, apart from that. Maybe Sunday will convince me.
I still love a lot of their songs.
You were watching a different gig. Obviously.
You could have watched Battle and loved it.
I've had about three pints all night! I ain't no drunk.
And I could never, ever watch Battle and love it. That's just rude.
I think they were pretty much consistent all the way through. Good rapport with the crown, good energy, good 'vibes' (god, that sounds awful doesn't it?!)...just a great live band. They reaffirmed my faith tonight.
but tonight I was not impressed.
i loved tonight, hence the post.. turning a square makes me grin. as does the little guy who stands in the middle. "Borderline!.."
Adams of BFB is a skilled writer, but his tendency to make everything 'a joke' annoys.
If he actually wrote something from the heart rather than playing this arch character he's assumed, it'd be killer.
but he's no Jeff Tweedy, John Darnielle, Sufjan Stevens, Will Sheff, Conor Oberst or Jamie Stewart is he?
I know that it is freezing
But I think we'll have to walk
Keep waving at the taxis
They keep turning their lights off
But Julie knows a party
At some actor's West Side loft
Supplies are endless in the evening
By the morning they'll be gone
When everything is lonely
I can be my own best friend
Get a coffee and the paper
Have my own conversations
With the sidewalk and the pigeons
And my window reflection
The mask I polish in the evening
By the morning looks like shit
And I know you have a heavy heart
I can feel it when we kiss
And many men stronger than me
Have thrown their backs out trying to lift it
But me, I'm not a gamble
You can count on me to split
The love I sell you in the evening
By the morning won't exist
You're looking skinny like a model
With your eyes all painted black
Keep going to the bathroom
Always say you'll be right back
Well, it takes one to know one, kid
I think you've got it bad
But what's so easy in the evening
By the morning's such a drag
I've got a flask inside my pocket
We can share it on the train
And if you promise to stay conscious
I will try and do the same
Yeah, we might die from medication
But we sure killed all the pain
But what was normal in the evening
By the morning seems insane
And I'm not sure what the trouble was
That started all of this
The reasons all have run away
But the feeling never did
It's not something I would recommend
But it is one way to live
Cause what is simple in the moonlight
By the morning never is
Yeah, it was simple in the moonlight
Now it's so complicated
It was so simple in the moonlight
So simple in the moonlight
So simple in the moonlight
I don't think I need say any more.
jeff tweedy's a good shout. as is oberst, despite thommo's scoffs!) honestly can't think of many other real contenders. i'm feeling narrow minded.
i should respect people's opinions more.
Even if they are wrong :P
(sorry i really can't see the fuss over Bright Eyes. Desaparacidos, yes. Bright Eyes, no.)
Bright Eyes is shite.
YES. Shite Eyes. I rule the world of wit.
you're un-ban requested :)
you like his political side and not the personal stuff? Its interesting that a lot of people who don't like Bright Eyes that much seem to like Desaparecidos.
drowns out his singing more.
Regina Spektor? Or do I like her a little bit too much?
As long as i can say Emmy too.
Oh and Caroline Martin.
And Nina Nastasia.
you need to say more for my money OceanStrom. Mercer is superior to Oberst in my opinion. I like 'em both though.
Tonight was great fun by the way. Why pick holes in it? Just enjoy!
you will be, penrith.
because this is a discussion forum and not everyone is going to share your opinion.
Last time I saw the Shins = one of the worst shows I've ever seen, ever.
Tonight = pretty darned aces.
I liked parts of it a lot, I just was underwhelmed and I LOVE both their albums. Maybe second time will be better and thankfully it won't be at Koko.
I'm talking arse while drunk. I really enjoyed it though.
I will be seeing The National there at the end of the month. Also I've heard people saying The National are disappointing live but I'm refusing to believe it.
I thought The National were pretty good live.
that's good to know anyway!
And I'll be at that National gig. They rule my world live.
especially for Dungen. The National were ace at Reading and slightly less so at ULU, but still well worth it.
And The Shins were good last night. They just needed to speed up the wait between songs and stop pratting about quite so much and it would have been proper great.
New Slang was disappointing though, they could have done more with it.
Judge's verdict: 7/10.
I'd say 6/10.
i.e. while not drunk:
Roll on Sunday!
or Radiohead tonight.
i'm only going for willy mason.
i'd quite like channel 4 to do "the 50 greatest miserable-bastard indie songwriters".
actually, no i wouldn't as they'd probably put fucking morrissey at the top.
saw the Shins at the Scala and I've seen James and the guitarist do an acoustic set in Rough Trade Covent Gdn. I have to say the acoustic set was much better, as a live band band they sound a tad lack lustre but in Rough Trade the songs sounded amazing and his voice was superb.
Without calling him the best I cant think of a much better songwriter.
Google the lyrics to 'The Mercy Seat' by Nick Cave then repent your sooooooul.