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Fuck off. Please.
Professor Crablin K. ROFLgasm
i agree, there are very shite.
i like their accents though. Mmmmm.
and they probably smell.
smell of vinegar. Yes...vinegar would be about right methinks.
I can't even get angry about them.
Then again when I get their new album sent to me, no doubt I'll have similiar feelings.
however, I would 'do' the 'bird'.
Damn, I said the quiet part loud
What the fuck is wrong with the Zutons? Jesus Christ this is exactly the kind of pop music that a site like this should like - not necessarily enjoy, I wouldn't buy their music but at least they are there in the charts doing something that isn't Pop Idol shmaltz. Fuck I am annoyed by this, and for no reason because I have no feeling whatsoever for the band but they try, they are inventive, creative and often fun. They make good pop singles. So what you don't like their new single? The ones they have made before seem to me to be following a very fine tradition of good scouse pop songs.
The Zutons are not the 'kind of pop' that this site 'should like'.
The Zutons are a derivative, backward-facing, retro-styled abomination AGAINST pop music. Their major-chorded melodies and harmonies are soulless, hollow pieces of music that serve only to do the following:
a) detract attention away from truly interesting pop music
b) line the pockets of already rich label bosses
c) make a major label roster look more credible by having an 'alternative' band on the books
Claiming that a band are inventive and creative, despite churning out traditional 'good scouse pop songs' is a contradicition in terms, but the real problem lies herein:
The Zutons are a worthless blip in the history of music. By parodying an existing (and previous) era of music, without truly innovating, the band are essentially throwing themselves away, before they've even shut up shop.
But they make a few people happy, I hear you cry!
Fuck, yes, they probably do. Do these same people know about the glorious soaring melodies of Broken Social Scene though? When they switch on Dick Face on LocalWank FM on a rainy Wednesday morning, are they greeted by Win Butler of the Arcade Fire literally tearing his heart out on record, or The Shins making incredible pop music that has a soul.
No. They're not. The members of the public who don't have time or the inclination to discover new music are not at fault. We're lucky here to have the time to exchange tips and genuinely feel fulfilled by the music we have found and shared, but John Q. Taxpayer isn't interested in this.
I repeat: this is not his/her fault.
Record labels pay extortionate sums of money for radio pluggers to get their latest no-name indie band on the A-list on Radio 1 and your local commercial station, so that the quotient of 'alt' is fulfilled and the indie en masse can buy another one-album-then-die group's wares.
The Zutons embody everything wrong with this situation. Half-assed shite that means absolutely fucking NOTHING.
At least the 'pop idol schmaltz' is so openly manufactured, that it's easily avoidable. The Zutons do little except purport the myth that older generations love to spout -
'music was better in my day'
No. Fucking. Way.
Music has ALWAYS been amazing and will continue to be so. You're just not looking hard enough, old man.
almost remini of bill hicks. almost.
but although i'm not a fan of the zutons either, i feel that there are far worse evils in the musical industry than these guys. masquerading as a campy version of a style gone-by is cute and has its market of morons who will indeed think 'wow, these guys really have soul.' when as you noted, they really don't. i understand that subtle crimes are sometimes more sinister.
however, i feel that complaining about the zutons is like claiming someone stole your wallet when they actually raped you. and we, the public, are being psychically (omnipresent adverts), economically (insanely high prices for cds that cost mere pennies to produce), and judicially (getting sued for downloading music) raped.
so keep up the good fight. it's all the same hydra.....
the new supernaturals
or cosmic rough riders.
they sound like a death knell.
The Hussy's (sic) are the new Supernaturals.
the supernaturals had their moments. be fair.
zutons are horrible though. just a pointless, ugly example of pop pollution.
the best thing I've ever seen you write on this website.
Sure it's a Sony BMG subsidiary, but Sony BMG no longer exists as a label concept - it's now Columbia and RCA, in the same way Parlophone and Heavenly exist under the EMI banner. It has a roster of the Dead 60s, the Coral, the Zutons, the Little Flames and the Longcut (hm, a lot of Thes!). I don't think it needs the Zutons to make them look more alternative.
I'm not excusing the Zutons - I'm incredibly unfamiliar with them but I did hear the new single on the radio the other day and thought 'what is this crap' before their name was announced - but I hardly think it's fair to say they're on the Deltasonic books to make the label look alternative.
is just a sony concept.
that helped them sign The Coral.
and create a "brand" for scallys to buy into.
all the same people in sony or wherever they call themselves now will be working the zutons record...
but say we're looking at warners and 679, then the same people are working the mystery jets record as the madonna record. i'm not disputing the fact that the same people at columbia will be working the release - but if deltasonic is a brand for people to buy into, then the zutons aren't there for columbia to look more alternative (considering its focus is on alternative/indie music anyway). i just object to colin saying that one of the purposes of the band is for the label to look more alternative. labels create subsids in order to detach the parent label from the look of the label, not to make them look cool.
that's it's a little cynical of labels to start these brands to release albums by indie bands and try and look cool?
whenever i meet people at majors, they're always quick to let me know about their spin-offs and subsiuaries, rather than the albums they're actually personally working.
just because the public at large perceive these labels to be different, doesn't stop the folks at the label using their 'cool' bands and brands as a calling card, and at the end of the day, isn't that much worse?
what are the reasons "labels create subsids in order to detach the parent label from the look of the label" if it's not "to make them look cool"?
...but isn't also so that they can get 'indie' bands to sign up who want the benefits of a major label whilst kidding themselves they're not really signed to a major label at all?
and when they go to the universal/whatever office and there's a subsidised starbucks on the ground floor of a nine-storey kensington high street office block, they'd probably realise that things are a little bigger.
...but I would contend there are bands that'd be happy to be on Deltasonic and not Sony despite how paradoxical that might seem.
Are you sure?
I'm suprised the Zutons elicit such anger here. I would have thought there was no shortage of more worthy targets.
Not me though, I fucking despise the Zutons for all the same reasons you do.
however after reading both parts of crablins rant, it's easy to see why they can be successful and not have much talent or originality behind them. As Crablin said they are a parody of an era of music.
I don't live in London, but i know that the tube is the best place to advertise new products as 5 billion people see it per hour. These people don't have time to look for new music, so if they see a zutons advert, or hear a zutons song on the radio then they will definelty buy it and request it. If they actually decided to spend some time in looking for new music, then quality bands will get a c hance to shine.
Also the Radio One A-List should branch out a bit more, not just Jo WILLY pretending to reach out into the new music scene, but actually include some unsigned artists.
GOD Damn IT.
Surely it's not Radio 1's A-list's job to showcase unsigned music. Radio 1's main remit is to play the best new and current releases so it's natural that the songs it plays most should be actually being released and so signed.
I mean any band that's gonna get that much play on Radio 1 is gonna get a label to pick 'em up. Unless they don't want that level of success. In which case would they want to be on Radio 1's A-list?
I do agree Radio 1 could play more unsigned (or perhaps signed on small labels) music but then I don't blame 'em for not doing so.
A lot (tho' by no means all) of indie music that people on this site love but that doesn't reach mainstream audiences doesn't to so for a reason i.e. that it doesn't have mass appeal. That's no bad thing but it's naive to think that the entire country would become, say, Good Speed You Black Emperor or Arab Strap fans if only they had the chance to hear the music.
which is why i deliberately avoided making those points.
To clear up any confusion, the last paragraph was a reference to what Adman was saying about Radio 1 including unsigned acts rather than what you said.
you'd hear some unsigned music...
...I meant Radio 1 daytime playing unsigned acts.
Of course Radio 1 un-daytime play unsigned acts - I assume everyone knew this and it didn't need pointing out. But Radio 1's A-list is the releases that they're pushing and are meant to be the big hits of the moment so unsigned acts might not be appropriate tho' it'd be good if they threw 'em on the c-list from time-to-time.
i dont know how many people get the tube and im not going to look.
...one of their songs is quite good (tho' the fact I can't remember it's name speaks volumes) and their first album is okay in a 6/10-type way (which may be worse than being good or terrible). That said I've no desire to hear the new album (nor have I, in fact, heard anything from it).
But nonetheless, the Zutons don't annoy me as much as, say, Orson or Hard-Fi. Or the 'new' Red Hot Chili Peppers single.
"You Will, You Won't" was their good song. And "Remember Me" is pretty decent too.
And think that his mauling of the Zutons could equally be applied to several other high profile indie bands that shall not be named here for fear of sounding like a cracked record.
if bands like The Zutons and there so called Ilk weren't around, how could we judge what was good? You sometimes need bands around like them, just so you can appreciate the good stuff that little bit more.
only people in shit bands say that.
are you in a shit band?
Now everyone knows theyÂ´re shit.
Same goes for Editors. Remember the Editors can fuck off thread? And now everyoneÂ´s like - Editors can fuck off.
I predict the anti-Kaisers bounce any time now.
Why does this happen? ItÂ´s like a big sloppy musical turd lands on us via T4 and 8 out of 10 reviews on here, and itÂ´s quite obvioulsy awful, but everyone loves it for a few months before realising itÂ´s actually just terrible.
I donÂ´t get it. Is it just a fascination with the new?
when the zutons started out they were a real band who'd written stuff they liked (whether you liked it or not) and now their new stuff smacks of cynical marketing attempts at classic/commercial pop and is being TV advertised even though it COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SUCKS BALLS.
I enjoyed stuff like Pressure Point and Remember Me enough to get the first album. It had a few decent moments on it, but when they released their last single, the alarm bells were ringing because it was shite. I've only heard a snippet of the new single so I can't really judge it, but I know I'm unlikely to buy the new album. There are better things I could be doing with my ears...
But have we not already got an anti-Kaisers bounce?
I sort of like 'em myself. I wouldn't buy an album but I don't mind hearing their stuff on t' wireless. But I was under the impression most people on here weren't too keen.
surely the wave against the kaisers should've happened ages ago?
the fact remains they can write massive, mass pop songs and have never pretended to be anything they're not.
the kaisers didnt suffer from over exposure, just a lot of goodwill from people who couldnt get enough of their songs.
rather than people feeling they SHOULD be behind something because of the hype or marketing.
what it boils down to is songs and entertainment.
people on dis are often ashamed to be into the entertainment side of things, as they feel it's a slick industry of corpse rape and theatrics, putting style over substance. often the worse a band looks or performs, the more the anti-sell out brigade like them. which is a weird double standard.
it really, probably, is as simple as style over substance. but if you can pluck the two things together and make a success of it, what's the harm? especially if it makes people love music again and dive back in, rather than dipping a toe on a whim and getting their feet fried or frozen out.
i'm sure there would be a belle & sebastian backlash if they got on t4...
If they make a second album thatÂ´s not too dissimilar from the first, they could end up on statdium tours, who knows. If itÂ´s not quite up to scratch, bargain bin yesterdayÂ´s news time. Such is life in the mainstream eh...
their biding their time.
learning from what everyone else did wrong.
same management team as franz, see.
and i dunno, i'd love to believe they're the ones who still have a place to go.
if only because, despite not getting credit, i started the ball or hay rolling down that hill...
so they have a 'career plan' then? they're not just going to try and write some more good songs and release them when they're finished then? which is what a band who weren't pretending to be something they're not would do.
one word re: kaiser cheifs authenticity: Parva.
what would be a good single, when's the best time to release it, what formats, how much to tour around it, when the next album should come out, how many singles to precede it, chart eligible or not, what kind of marketing...no band at the level of success the kaisers are at just releases 'good songs...when they're finished'. career plans don't equate to a band being something they're not, far from it.
i blame the government really
But I think I have a much higher pain threshold than other people.
I wouldn't buy anything like, but it's pleasant enough.
Maybe I should start hating more things. WOuld that make me a more rounded individual?
It is depressing how the "x is shit" threads inevitably get more responses than the "x is amazing" threads.
people love drama.
and very English, too. But I dunno. ThereÂ´s very little that everyone agrees on liking, while there seems to be more that everyone agrees on disliking. Even people like Tom Waits and Bjork and Radiohead, the leading musical lights of a generation, have their detractors.
it's easier to kick a tramp
than wash, shave and feed him.
negativity is almost always the laziest and simplest thing.
we should shave the zutons.
in this thread have said 'it's pleasant enough', or 'i can stand them' - but what's the fucking point in that?
if they don't rouse something in you or send you wild, what is the point of them being around in the first place?
deep-seated passions to make great pop music though. Every band is capable of writing one or two great songs, no matter who they are. And I think The Zutons are capable of that. If they're going to write at least one or two songs that I enjoy, then they justify their existence.
It's like Charlton Athletic. They're never going to win anything, let's be honest. But they mean something to the 25,000 people who go to see them every week. And, once in a while, they'll beat Chelsea or Man United, and we'll all be happy. For those moments alone, I think they deserve to exist.
I think I judge music on whether I'd turn the radio off if it came on. Jack Johnson, James Blunt...yes, radio off. Zutons etc...Nah. I don't mind it.
An eloquent argument in favour of the average. But if you follow it along logically, than it ends up validating James BluntÂ´s music too. He makes lots of people happy...
maybe he too has earned his place. I'm not here to defend other people's choices, merely my own.
And I'm fed up of people spreading the hate. If Blunt comes out and writes one song that I like, then fair enough. It's highly unlikely, I admit, but maybe he will.
aslong as no whites get hurt.
comparing James Blunt to Robert Mugabe?
to the leader of the Bilberger Group.
does not one or two good albums make.
thank fuck we're about to see a cultural shift more towards singles.
means some of this dross wont get big album deals.
and the system can reboot.
careers will be developed whilst battles for hits are won.
the charts will mean something again.
westlife wont need to blow half a million trying to 'write' and record the other 11 songs that arent covers.
some people are happy to see the world full of what would have traditionally been b-sides. but what this means is cultures fall fast and nothing has the depth to linger and inspire. people take less and less chances. for every goo goo dolls big album there's a remy zero 'villa elaine' that no-one heard 'til they became the smallville band, devoid of their integrity. etc...
this thread should be retitled "plodding"
been more of a singles kinda guy than albums anyway. Maybe that's why I can accept 'shit' music with good grace.
so studio rates go up/studios go out of business/ indie bands have to spend more if they want to use pro studios?</semipointless extrapolation>
how people CAN stand them, or find anything pleasant in their turgid, "aren't we quaint" rubbish. i remember hearing one particular song of theirs All The Fucking Time on the radio, and reacting unpleasantly to it. they make me want to clingfilm my face.
Like many people I am completely indifferent to the Zutons; their music neither offends me nor excites me; it is dull. Colin's comments about how plugging for exposure works is a good account of a depressing situation.
Radio and TV producers have no inclination to find out for themselves what is good and what is not and they have insufficient love of music to be able to make any judgement objectively about what is good and what is not. Further, they are obsessed with pleasing their listeners or viewers: Therefore, they feel obliged to go for music which they think is the least likely to put people off and/or fits into what is currently fashionable. Also, every TV producer and radio producer and TV and radio executive seems to be of the opinion that the generel public are stupid, uncultured and have closed minds.
The result is that insistent plugging and bullshitting is always likely to be effective, partly because the work of selecting music to play is done by someone else and partly because the TV and radio producers have confidence in the views of the pluggers with whom they have a relationship - the confidence exists because these pluggers share the view of public as stupid and uncultured.
The combination of money exchanging hands and a shared insulting view of the general public's ability to appreciate music creates the daytime radio and Tv music that exists.
Pop Will Eat Itself; pop does eat itself and shits more than it eats, and so never goes hungry.
People's intelligence is not the issue. If you believe people who like obscure music are more intelligent than those who like mainstream music than that's just ludicrous.
On the whole a lot of people like pleasant, inoffensive music that they can have on the car or whilst doing the housework or whatever that won't intrude too much and will just function as background noise. This is why 'pleasant' stuff will always sell more than 'challenging' stuff. But it is NOT about intelligence, culture or anything like that.
Going back up in the thread, I completely agree with Sean and Brainlove that, on the whole, people are too inclined to accept mediocrity and that, perhaps especially due to being able to skip tracks on CD players and download selected tracks on albums, acts get away with albums with a hell of filler.
The number of albums I've bought and then found the majority of it are songs that just aren't that good is ludicrously high.
Personally I agree with Crablin that there's no point in listening to music that's 'okay' and doesn't set of a strogn reaction of some kind.
But I do get pissed off when I see codswallop like this claiming that liking alternative music equates to intelligence.
"But I do get pissed off when I see codswallop like this claiming that liking alternative music equates to intelligence."
I never said nor implied that.
"On the whole a lot of people like pleasant, inoffensive music" There is nothing wrong with such music, but that is not the same as the bland-to-the-point-of-lobotomising music that exists on daytime radio.
You are reading what you want to see in to what someone says and creating a view that you can then attack when such a view hasn't been expressed. That's lazy.
Clearly there's no way that anyone could construe you saying this:
"Also, every TV producer and radio producer and TV and radio executive seems to be of the opinion that the generel public are stupid, uncultured and have closed minds...The combination of money exchanging hands and a shared insulting view of the general public's ability to appreciate music creates the daytime radio and Tv music that exists."
as implies that you think people liking mainstream music equates to stupidity. I mean, you only used the word "stupid yourself"
I'll consider my case rested shall I?
How and why does music become mainstream?
Is it because of the artists, or because of the labels working with the media?
I think you know the truth.
is both to a differing extent.
Clearly the labels working with the media play a big part.
I mean anyone'd be naive to think that radio stations suddenly simultaneously all realised they loved Snow Patrol when "Run" came out, having ignored the album it was on six months' earlier. And surely no-one is stupid enough to think James Blunt found success on his own after coincidentally co-writng an album with a number of high-profile songwriters.
But it's cynical to claim artists play no part whatsoever. The fact is that there's things like Clea, Girls on Top and Triple 8 that major labels have tried to push into the mainstream without success because they were shite and didn't appeal to people.
And, for all the help that, say, Kaiser Chiefs have undoubtedly had in terms of publicity and major label pushing, it wouldn't have worked if "Every Day I Love You Less And Less" and "I Predict A Riot" weren't great radio songs.
REM were on a major label from "Green" onwards but it's no coincidence that they didn't become huge until they started releasing songs like "Losing my Religion" and "Everybody Hurts"
PS I wasn't quite sure why you asked that question. I didn't see quite how it tied in with what I'd psoted.
Jonathon Ross played 'Oh My God' on his Radio 2 show twice when it was out on DiS. Fact.
Not that this is what usually happens, but er, yeah...
Chris Moyles and Jonathan Ross played Milkkan's "Bling Bling Baby" quite a few times to pretty much, i gather, to the complete shock of PIAS, which they were on at the time.
Radio stations and DJs (although DJs are often tied to the station policy) are obviously more likely to hear music on a major label 'cos it gets pushed to them. But they still make their own minds up about a song in the end and that will come down to the quality, or perhaps more accurately the perceived appeal, of the song itself.
Them leaving was pretty much the end of me listening to daytime Radio 1
I truly don't care if you choose to see what isn't there.
Getting back to what is being discussed, you do, above, make an interesting point about what styles of music people like in certain scenarios and make the point that people like music that is not too demanding if they need it as an acompaniment to some othe rtask, such as work, study etc. True, I choose different types of music depending on whether I am listening to the music or just hearing it.
However, preferring music that doen't interfer too much with another activity in no way equates to preferring, say, Shayne Ward to, say, Final Fantasy. Within the plugged chart records there is a variety of styles of music, some of which is more appropriate to being used as white noise; equally, within all other music, that is, over 99% of music that exists, there is msuic that demands attention and music that is "music for housework".
The difference between music to listen to and musci that is just heard as background is entirely seperate and not the same as the difference between most music in the charts and music that isn't.
Perhaps if you could make the points that you may, which are valid, without positing them as a contrary view that you choose to deduce from what someone else as said.
There's no point arguing about what you did or didn't say.
I apologise if you feel I misconstrued your earlier point. I don't have too much to add to what you just said.
I like The Zutons.
I'm not sure why they, above all other bands, have been singled out here. And yes I have read all of the stuff written above.
I could write tons here but I fail to see a point.
the background music phenomena is a good point. If you attempt to argue with Blunt fans they'll just say "oh, it sounds good when I'm doing the dishes" or such. And the Zutons sound do indeed sound good if you're not paying attention. And the contention that casually liking mainstream music makes you an idiot is a nasty, elitist conceit which you all know isn't true.
"And the contention that casually liking mainstream music makes you an idiot is a nasty, elitist conceit which you all know isn't true."
Has anyone contended that point of view?
surely a bigger waste of time than posting nothing at all?
and know you've just come off as lazy and ignorant.
i'm going for a FAG.
On a more constructive note I generally agree with the anti-zutons brigade. They're BORING. And lots of people don't seem to realise. Capable of writing an ok pop song, but as has already been said, anything positive is ruined by the complete lack of passion.
...and you've just insulted one of your regulars for no good reason. Not very professional.
Arguing on the Internet is the most pointless thing in the world. I couldn't be bothered to get started. I like The Zutons - proper like them... you know, buy the records, enjoy the shows. Last time I checked, I hadn't been lobotomised.
that is all.
and teh video is shocking too.
they are doing a musical (west side story rip off maybe?) and it matches the mundane predictable song, and i'm thinking
"if this ends in a fight i'll be happy as it'll be a surprise and i want to see the zutons die"
but it doesn't, they dance. as a group. and i turn off the tv and my opinion of the zutons has no changed one bit from what it was before i saw the video/heard the song.
I'd love to contribute but it's all been said here already
that is all
don't like The Zutons.
My contribution to this thread was vitally important
"ah-ooh, ooh, ooh"
i'd like the Zutons more if they weren't so ball-breakingly boring and predictable and not really even the slightest bit good. They're no Birds Of Paradise that's for sure. Easily one of my most hated 'scarf bands' today. Cravat-core.
good on him...
brainlove's kaiser chiefs thread.
my view then is the same as now, if you don't like don't listen.
maybe bands like these do block out the sun for better bands, but the bands are still able to exist and flurish (sp?). last night i went to see napoleon iird in leeds. for the last band there were 30 people, they all loved it, the band were having fun.
anyway, if it the zutons weren't big then who would be? arctic monkeys, crabbers? and what would we all do if mogwai were at number 1 on sunday teatime?
The worse thing about such music is it's innoffensive- i.e, devoid of passion and meaningless, but oh so willing to please.
Last time I checked, music was supposed to make you feel something (contempt doesn't count), no? And The Zutons don't. They mean absolutely nothing at all. I can't bear music that is so stuck in the past.
this is how i feel about mogwai.
I donÂ´t like this argument. ItÂ´s the same as "if you donÂ´t like this thread, donÂ´t read it". If itÂ´s released, itÂ´s fair game for discussion and commentary. This attitude seems to lead to a disapproval of critical thinking and assessment - which is kind of what DiS is actually about to a degree isnÂ´t it? Review and discussion?
You're grabbing my argument and trying to create little holes where you probably damn well knew what I meant. When I say meaningless, I mean essentially pointless. We can have arguments about how meaning blah blah blah is subjective, and how such and such that should have made me feel emotional did not etc, but what I meant to say is that The Zutons do nothing to an already stagnent popular music scene. They take what millions of bands have done far better and do it worse, and are thus bloody meaningless. Voila.
And I said nothing about the band being predictable. Are you trying to misquote me simply to see if I'm paying attention? Well I am paying attention, so there you go.
About that Mogwai thing, well, I sort of take back that comment...I was basing it on the older stuff I heard today just before posting, but I agree,the newer stuff is slightly pointless...
about mogwai. and the zutons.
however i dont think being inoffensive is the greatest of all music crimes. being derivative is.
to rival 'I'm Not Okay (I Promise)', I'll eat my words.
is surely an ironic masterpiece of equal magnitude.
Personally, I see My Chemical Romance as emblematic of a far more cynical and exploitative stance. Consider the video to that song (I'm Not Okay). Why are a band of twenty-something men so keen to appeal to and affirm their kinship with high school kids?
Sure, on one level it's quite a fun slice of escapism, perhaps an affectionate parody of teen movies (similar indeed to the entertaining Zutons video endebted to West SIde Story).
On another level however, it is likely that My Chemical Romance and their record label's marketing department know full well that angst-ridden, alienated 'alternative' teenagers comprise the majority of their target market.
I have no qualms with that myself, but I find it difficult to sympathize with your apparent rage towards a band who are similarly aware of their place within the marketplace, and the wider world of music. My Chemical Romance release angsty, guitar-heavy pop songs for 'emo' kids. The Zutons release quaint, twangy pop songs with a lighter touch for those less in need for adolescent catharsis. Neither is especially innovative.
You have scant evidence to accuse the Zutons of any less genuine an expression of their musical proclivities than any other band actively involved in the contemporary music industry, I would wager; such an evangelical outburst to the contrary I would suggest merely serves to expose your own prejudice.
said about the Zutons !!!
Now they can die happy knowing that they somehow helped people having a beautiful DiScussion...
( please die hapy Zutons ! Soon !)
No one ever says anything remotely enlightening in these threads.
I have researched every area of your life. Your birth place is nothing new to me.
It needs some NWA:
Fuck tha police
Comin straight from the underground
Young nigga got it bad cuz I'm brown
And not the other color so police think
They have the authority to kill a minority
Fuck that shit, cuz I ain't tha one
For a punk muthafucka with a badge and a gun
To be beatin on, and throwin in jail
We could go toe to toe in the middle of a cell
Fuckin with me cuz I'm a teenager
With a little bit of gold and a pager
Searchin my car, lookin for the product
Thinkin every nigga is sellin narcotics
You'd rather see me in the pen
Then me and Lorenzo rollin in the Benzo
Beat tha police outta shape
And when I'm finished, bring the yellow tape
To tape off the scene of the slaughter
Still can't swallow bread and water
I don't know if they fags or what
Search a nigga down and grabbin his nuts
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none
But don't let it be a black and a white one
Cuz they slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin out for the white cop
Ice Cube will swarm
On any muthafucka in a blue uniform
Just cuz I'm from the CPT, punk police are afraid of me
A young nigga on a warpath
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath
Of cops, dyin in LA
Yo Dre, I got somethin to say
Fuck the police
are a fucking LEGENDO GIGANTE
Music should create a response. Thats my view.
The Zutons create a response for roughly 75% of the people in this thread whther positive or negative. Ergo IMHO they have a place.
Its fuckers like jack johnson who get no reaction from me to their music that deserve to die a horrible, horrible death.
However, by getting no reaction to his music, he gets a bigger negative reaction than someone i don't like. How the fuck foes that work?
P.s. all the mentions of deltasonic in this thread confused and worried me.
actually, no, I wouldn't.
(and anyone who knows me knows exactly how much of a LIE that is...)
was a Chubby Checker dance craze in the early 60s
I was thinking about it, and my previous "don't like/don't listen" comment, when i t struck me that crablin and brainlove are musical missionaries in a way.
they've got the passion to try and make people open up to new music and make people understand their opinion on music.
it's a good thing they're not zealots in the pay of simon cowell.
Why won't you give them your love?
Maybe there's a Government directive that says that radio has to play bland music during the day as otherwise people would get less work done or crash their car? Its a safety directive.
Thats the only excuse I can find for James Blunt.
and lizard people.