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is now on my Soulseek (photojonny)
only burned it to CD this morning to listen to it on my tube journey to work but realised I left my Discman at home. Fool.
I wish my Ipod still worked : (
If you like Sonic Youth wait until you can BUY the CD in the shops.
that I want to hear it now but will still buy it on day of release.
Songs will be played on the radio and on those video TV things.
Before all this internet stuff and when LPs weren't promoted three months in advance, we could enjoy the building anticipation of waiting for our favourite band's new record. Nowadays, such joy is denied.
the joy of having the album far out ways that, it would be like enjoying being hungry
Anticipation is a wonderful feeling to have, whether hunder, thirst, any imposed abstinence, and the satiation is so much more thrilling.
Replacing anticipation with instant gratification is without joy and reduces the seperation between humans and animals.
i've had the 'joy' of anticipating a new sonic youth album for a couple of years now I want to eat it.
which stations would those be?
Lots of shows on radio 1 for example.
I like on the commentary on their DVD, pretty much every video went along the lines of "Hmm yeah MTV didn't really like this one"
with Mr Traynor here. The craze for downloading records before they're released is indicative of the 'must have now, everything's disposable' culture that society seems to be based around these days. Music seems to be more of a commodity to be consumed rather than an artform to be anticipated & appreciated. If everyone who downloaded, for example, the Islands record waited until it came out and bought it after a few months of anticipation, I bet that firstly, it would sound better, secondly, interesting discussion on the merits of the record would be generated, and thirdly, the record would have more longevity in the mind of the listener. This was the only record I've ever downloaded in advance and through that experience I would never download a leaked record ever again.
What, first things first no amount of time could save the islands record. secondly aren't commodities something that is traded for money, like a traditional CD rather than downloads which are shared. People who love bands music just want to listen to it as soon as they can, how could this considered anything but appriciating music.
would be played on 120 Minutes a fair few times.
Culture, upbringing, personal environment?
But why does downloading an album make someone soulless?
is apparent in the refusal to enjoy the pleasures of anticipation, longing, yearning - all of which are features of being human and to be indulged not denied.
Your argument is retarded, it's not like I can conjure up a new sonic youth album when ever I want one, and I do enjoy looking forward to getting the new one therefore when it becomes availible to me i'll get it thats the whole point of looking forward to something, if i didn't get it as soon as I could it would mean I couldn't of wanted it very much and the anticipation would have been meaningless
Some hold in their wee for hours to feel the release when they finally go to the toilet. I can only assume it's a similar thing in this instance.
If someone wants to download it before it is released, what's the problem? Why do there have to be rules about this? It's just music! It's not important in the grand scheme of things. JEEZUS.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to the toilet.
on how much you normally enjoy urinating.
with Mr_JDTraynor wholeheartedly on this one. Leaked copies really ruin the magic of new releases for everyone. Like Bitter Tea by the Furnaces came out on Monday and I've been looking forward to it since before this time last year. Because it leaked though and everyone on the band's message boards was going on about it constantly the magic of finally getting the package in my hands was pretty significantly reduced even though I waited. I wish people just kept these leaks to themselves if they are desperate enough to need them.
not forcing people to download it, simply informing that those who want to hear it, can do.
you could just not read about new albums before they come out.
I've never really cared about packaging and artwork etc. for me the album is the songs, when ever I buy a cd I normally take it out put it on the pile and throw the box aside never to be seen again.
you are so depraved
conors label team love makes all it's release available for free via the website. I guess the argument is the more people who listen the more turn up at shows which is how most bands make most of their money.
make sure you savior the feeling before you throw up
'sharing' music for nothing, I think it devalues it to the listener. It makes it disposable, consumerable, wam bam thank you mam and on to the next one. I'm not against downloading per se, but I think that downloading an anticipated record before it's release because it's been leaked, even if you're gonna buy it anyway, means you lose that anticipation which is all part & parcel of enjoying music in my book. It's like peeking at your presents a week before christmas. then when christmas comes, you know what you're getting so you're already thinking about what you want for next year or whatever.
Well for me, music was pretty much dead to me until about 2003, downloading has got me into more music than ever before and I think it's better than it's ever been, consumerable = people enjoying it, disposible I don't agree at all I don't discarde old music when new comes along. And as for sneaking a look at presents a week early (i always did but any way) it is not like that it is like moving christmas to a week earlyier
really fucking good
and it seems very good. Although the song "The Neutral" is very close to "Love Will Tear Us Apart".