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i like it! anyone else?
my favourite genre of music. I was listening to Whirlpool by Chapterhouse earlier.
I put on some Slowdive yesterday and though I sometimes like them was really frustrated by the end of the record. It's just soooo dreamy you can't hear anything and they're usually doing it (soaking everything in fuzz) to hide the fact that they haven't got any melodies.
The drums on Ride's Nowhere are brilliant though.
I think it's my favourite record on Creation.
Whirlpool is ace! I prefer their noisier early stuff though. loads of feedback
Slowdive were the best
Have you sampled slowblow?
I've always liked Slowdive, but always felt in the back of my mind it was wrong. Ride's Nowhere is a great album. When i first heard Dreams Burn Down, it blew me away,
is good shoegaze noise. But it does sound a little 90s now.
or is it a particular shop?
I might get out of bed to get myself a CD copy of Whirlpool at some point today. I can't beleive they've re-issued that. All my shoegaze music is on vinyl (or ahem, cassette!)
you'll recognise me, I have a long fringe and will be wearing my Thousand Yard Stare t-shirt...
i still have the coloured 10"s of their ep's somwehere
medicine rocked. i love playing aruca at clubs... such a great song.
did you ever catch em live? they were amazing. the drummer was like animal.
you gonna pop to the lumi next thursday for mr gardener, televise and model morning?
same with Catherine Wheel. Ferment and Chrome were excellent albums. Avoid anything else like the plague
has it's moments, but really is quite poor overall.
Lush and Swervedriver !
You should try to find some Mahogany...
caught them playing in nyc in december... they were really excellent. 9 of em onstage, 2 drummers, 2 bassists!
was my album of 2005 !
liek, this much:
*goes to download slowdive*
a stupid idiot, can someone please describe what shoegazing music is?
and then buy My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
and Slowdive - Souvlaki
Shoegazing alright in doses. Don't overdo it though: your shoes are only a couple of feet away from your navel. Not a pretty sight.
As soon as some hack from the NME called it Shoegazing the whole thing fizzled out. Oh and a certain guitar band from Seattle.
= steve lamacq
...funny - I've just been listening to the compilation album from last year tonight, and thinking how great they were. Ride were wonderful for the first couple of albums, too.
>>>>>>>>>>>>retreats into fond memories of sneaking into Potterrow Student Union, like we did every weekend when we were 15, but this time getting to see Catherine Wheel>>>>>>>>>
of live songs to download on
I love shoegaze, but Slowdive and their ilk suck. They are the reason people hate (or think they hate) shoegaze. Here is a review of Just For a Day that I posted on Rate Your Music which will clarify my view on the matter. Yes, I am posting the whole thing because I think it is important, and people won't read it once they realize they have to register a username:
Shoegaze is an art. It is not to be pursued by just anyone. The main reason that shoegaze is currently a dirty word in indie rock is not because there is something inherently wrong with it. Sure, people will say that "it has been done" already, and that the current acts don't add anything to what has been done before. But let's be honest. Very few original things are being done in any genre of rock, much less indie rock, where 95% of the best bands are failing to reinvent the wheel (and that's actually fine with me as long as the songs are original and good). Shoegaze is a dirty word because it is a complex art that too often has been crudely executed by relative simpletons.
When shoegaze is pursued by simpletons, the result is an album that sounds flat and tepid, like 50 synthesizers layered on top of each other being played very, very slowly. I hate this faux-dreamy schlock. It is such a mockery of everything that the Cocteau Twins, Kitchens of Distinction, and My Bloody Valentine worked so hard to achieve. The best shoegazers have to be extremely talented and dedicated to shape sound into giant colorful shapes. In addition to playing one's guitar at a high volume, it usually involves unusual tunings, a profound understanding of rhythm, and deft feedback manipulation. Just For a Day is the sound of a band that is almost entirely reliant on the trickery of oodles of pedals (with very little imagination as to how maximize their potential). It is deficient in rhythm, and the melodies are only passable. Every song sounds the same, and none of these songs have any edge at all. It is hardly rock music. For an entry in a genre that in concept is the fulfillment of punk rock's dream (doing the most with very little), this is very sad indeed. Even more depressing is the fact that so many current "shoegaze" bands model themselves after Slowdive. It is telling that these bands are usually successful at achieving this sound, whereas bands that really sound like My Bloody Valentine or Kitchens of Distinction are very few and far between. Just For a Day is dull and 2-dimensional.
So who do I like? My Bloody Valentine (obviously), Lift to Experience, Rollerskate Skinny, LOOP, Skywave (Oliver Ackermann builds his Sonic Annihilation pedals),Psychic Ills, Kinski, A Cricket in Times Square, and Boxer Rebellion, just to name a few. Failure, Autolux, th Faith Healers, Kaito, and Part Chimp also mine similar sonic territory and have a good understanding of "shape." And yes, a few of these bands do use more pedals than I would ideally like, but they do in fact have playing ability and honest-to-goodness imagination, and that can make up for most sins in my book, shoegaze or not.
four skinny indie kids,
four skinny indie kids,
drinking weak lager in a camden boozer,
four skinny indie kids,
four skinny indie kids,
drinking weak lager in camden boozer!
We've got b-side, we've got tie-dyes,
We've got grey and brown and black,
We've got stickers on guitars, we've got a tape for Steve Lamacq,
We've got celibate lead singers, we've got Sebadohs and Docs,
What ain't we got?
We ain't got mates...
I <3 HMHB
But shoegaze was only a dirty word for NME journalists in 1994 whilst they were bigging up Shed 7 & Oasis.
And even mentioning Kaito in an article about shoegazing is just wrong. There is absolutely nothing in their sound that could be compared to that scene.
Do you read indie rock reviews outside of this site? It is much harder for a "shoegaze" band to get some respect than bands in many other genres. A lot of people see what they do as reliant on a gimmick that is somehow passe. And while a lot of "shoegaze" bands are gimmicky, I don't understand why any one genre would be classified as passe. Public interest may wax and wane, but a good album is a good album in any year. Pitchfork is often guilty of dismissing styles and ruling them passe without regard for the actual songs being presented, and I was quite surprised (very pleasantly) when Serena Maneesh received a favorable review on the Pitchfork site.
As for Kaito, if you have their albums and/or you have seen them live, I think there are definitely wall-of-sound/disorienting elements to what they do, and certainly the ways in which they employ feedback and get weird sounds are similar. It was more a sound comment than a song structure comment. But anyway, I heard one of their new demos and it was sounding a bit dancey and not very noisy...maybe they will betray me...