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Who on DiS wears them?
I never get right down the front normally, so don't bother.
i wear cheap foam ones that make eveything really dull and shitty sounding fro really loud nights and my custom made ones for most others which acutally make singers' voices that much clearer and their lyrics intelligible.
I have severe tinnitus and if i forget my earplugs i get severe pains even if its just from people talking loudly in a bar. sometimes bog roll can be used as a shoddy substitute
bog roll disintegrates though surely? wouldn't that get stuck down your ear-hole?
I have thought about using them, especially when you get some really loud shitty support act, I don't want to be deaf because of them.
and plug 'em in...make sure they're new and not some old tissuee with lint from your pocket..that stuff will go down and ull me scratching your eardrum out for days...
and to be honest if your in a place where your ears are gonna be damaged without anythign in them, they probably will even with the bog roll. I don't think its effective, but its less painful for me if im caught wihtout phones
you'd be better off putting nothing in your eyes.
since my ears never really hurt after gigs (although the Zodiac in Oxford is one loud venue).
and the whole floor wobbles at the slightest bass drum sound.
u also absorb sound via your face which can be bad if you have loose fillings...
"You also absorb sound via your face"
my doctor told me!!!
I wear them as well.
I've only wished twice that i have had earplugs at gigs, once was Lift To Experience about 3 years ago and the second time was whilst watching High On Fire at ATP on Saturday, that nearly destroyed me. Mentally and physically.True story.
high on fire on monday night
i wish i'd put my earplugs in my pocket instead of on my shelf
Earplugs? Am I hearing you right? (ahahaha)
I would never wear them. IT'S A FUCKING CONCERT. I want it to be loud.
i want to keep my hearing...
*said in sign language, because you've gone so deaf*
I mainly did a lot when bought the special 150 quid moulded ones. They have a flat 15dB filter which is fantastic and not like normal earplugs. It's like you just turn everything down and you actually get a much better sound of the gig.
If you value your ears you should get some because once your hearing's fucked there's nothing you can do.
i got the 15db and the 25db ones...15db is what i use when performing 'cos its got better high freq retention.
ch-ch-changes...don't know if your taking the piss...but trust me. Only couple of gigs can be a bitch permenantly. it started off like the normal whining u have after a gig. It gradually got worse and now i have to sleep every night with the tv or hi fi on because the noise is so loud. like a fire alarm in my head. Doctor said it will get worse and eventually i may lose my ability to balance myself.
so don't be a dick.
wow sounds like a 'hey listen kids..don't lose the noise' spiel. But its true. And it's a right fucker
about ten pairs by someone I know.
Haven't used them yet but may in future. I'm getting a weird thing where it's as though I can hear a badly tuned short wave radio with people muttering in an eastern european language after louder gigs.
The person who gave me them had just been told by his doctor to choose to either continue dj'ing or keep his hearing, he couldn't have both.
I should wear them, since Iâ€™m right up next to the speakers so often, but havenâ€™t for years.
The main reason I stopped was because I found them uncomfortable, but I should really persevere and try different types till I find ones that suit me.
It annoys me a bit that itâ€™s legal for venues to have the volume at a level that it can cause long term damage to hearing.
i don't know about ur mate..how bad his is....mine is very bad....but u can still make music if your sensible.
First doctor i went to told me to give up music etc or my hearing...but thats the same one that wrote a medical note stating to my uni "He claims to have a weeping ulcer", when she knew full well i was taken to casualty.....
anyhow..most doctors are ignorant of tinnitus and claim the worst...your mate should get a second opinion
someone i worked with once had a DJ boyfriend. he was told by doctors he had to wear these earplugs we're talking about if he wanted to continue. he did and he's been fine since.
i'd tell your friend to consult another doctor.
Yeah, i've started wearing earplugs, should've done it years ago but I'm not a big gig-goer so my hearing is still OK. I just use the cheap foam ones from Boots, I would get some of those that block all frequencies evenly as mentioned above, but like I say I don't go to enough gigs to justify it.
the % he told me but the tests had came out quite badly damage wise and he was taking the advice. He knew he had a problem himself and that's why he went along for the tests.
Last really loud blast I had was at Melt Banana while taking photos in front of the PA. I've seen Jah Shaka in a small club in Edinburgh a few times. It's been so loud that you could no longer actually hear the bass but just feel it rattling through your diaphragm. It's good at the time but I can't imagine regular exposure to that being good for your hearing.
You've seen Jah Shaka then Cadd? Didn't think anybody on DiS would've heard of him. My brother used to be really into dub, the bass! Oh, the BASS!
twice in Edinburgh, once, maybe twice in Glasgow and twice in London. Have seen Zion Train about three times, Lee Scratch Perry about four or five times, and people like U-Roy, Linton Kwesi Johnson, Mad Professor, etc.
Still really enjoy reggae/dub/ska/etc while no longer partaking in the herbal.
i really wanna get the Â£150 ones
but i get drunk
last time i took earplugs out with me i flung them across the barfly along with all the plastic coins...
to the 150 squid custom moulds...
you can get rubber 15db ones from drummer shops that come in 3 sizes. if your lucky and they fit they are excellent and u can hear everything, just lower volume. However u get into the habit of 'adjusting' them..i.e make them looser absentmindedly if ur performing...with custom mould they fit your ear so u dont feel the urge to fiddle with them. if u can ignore the tension in your ears go get these rubber ones. #15 quid, rockers i think they're called. the boots ones, like i said i only wear when the sound is just waaay too much.
clubs should usually be around 120 decibels max, that means an unprotected ear can withstand it for about an hour and a half before damage----i think!! check a tinnitus website for this.
its the pressure and frequency that damages the ear. So heavy bass is actually not as bad...even if ur right next to a stack (though won't advice it!!). Treble will definately damage ur ear at close distance. it's like the difference between a baseball bat or a knife struck against your body. It takes less pressure for the knife to kill you than it would take a bat.
about a year and a half ago and have to say they're fantastic. They cost about Â£15, are really comfortable and strangely enough make gigs clearer by drowning out the distortion and making the vocals crisp and hearable. It's like a waxy sound tech... or something like that.
Still, I think those Mogwai and ...Trail of Dead gigs I went to all the years before I got them have done enough damage to screw up my ears for good.
*Does the hand thing*
You're deaf, not dumb.
*spins finger next to his head*
You're lucky there isn't a hand gesture for "earplug-wearing nancy pants".
Cos if there was, I would be so doing it right now.
you're a complete fucking idiot. get tinnunitis, then we'll talk about how poncy earplugs are. i say talk, ill scream and you'll motion your hands.
You've just made that up haven't you?
take my word for it. When you have tinnunitis you are royally fucked.
i misspelt it. point stands.
he's the kinda person that tabloids exist for
without people like him binge drinking wouldn't exist because getting drunk wouldn't be a contest
bet you i'm right
if it was, no understande.
not you dear
that changes fool
i go to sleep content then : D
If your ears get damaged from going to gigs just sue the venue innit.
that the sound was too loud...
I don't know what' the authorized limit in the UK, but in France, the limit is certainly not enough for the smallest venues.
how looking at paintings of sunsets will damage your eyes.
you are a fucking idiot.
Just re-read that post again.
Did the youth of your day look at paintings of sunsents?
when hella played on monday. there were four pretty fucking loud bands beforehand and my ears literally couldn't take any more.
only time before that was for editors, but that was just not wanting to add injury to the insult of watching them.
i really need to get some proper ones though..
have permenant tinnitus (either that, or that fire alarm just won't stop ringing..) so have to. just use the cheap boots ones currently, although i've been thinking of upgrading to some of the expensive ones.
but I don't wear earplugs at gigs or whilst drumming when I really should. I just hate feeling like I'm at the bottom of the sea or in the clouds when I'm actually listening to or playing music.
Playing the drums with plugs in (I have 2 types) gives an overly compressed sound, you can hear the accents better and can subsequently play better. But the problem is that I lose my balance and start feeling funny.
but it was down to alcohol.
for flying from boots. they do the job but i forevr forget them and won't wear them to bad sneakers as i think the girls will look at me funny.
please, please don't anyone take the attitude that wearing earplugs makes you somehow uncool or less 'rock n roll'. I've had ear problems my whole life, including burst eardrums, glue ear and constant infections, and I'm terrified that I could do something to destroy my hearing altogether - ears are very fragile things. I've worn earplugs (just crappy Boots ones,but I would like some expensive ones one day) for the last couple of years,because having met a number of people with tinnitus and learning how awful it is, I don't want to ever mess up my ability to listen to live music. It would be so terrible if this happened to any of us,and it makes me sad that it's already too late for some people.
but i dunno.
i was mightily impressed that they sell them at silver rocket.
and when i reviewed the buzzcocks years ago for a newpaper which shall not be named, i noted they were selling earplugs in the box office. they were so impressed that my comment got a pull-out quote. woo.
earplugs! for a punk band! etc
I really need to get some, my ears were making weird metallic noises after I came out of the place, it wasn't pleasant. as great as FUCKING LOUD TECHNO AND HOUSE is.
starting to consider it.
by 'starting to consider it', i mean i've been starting to consider it for about 3 years. at a really tremendous gig [oceansize at the garage a while ago, or mogwai ANYWHERE], i want it as loud as i can get it; cue pushing my face into the speakers. the rest of the time though, i probably should think about donning earplugs. i sometimes get tinnitus briefly... don't really want it permanently.
what i hate is when the bass sort of... goes through your throat, and makes your throat ache. i imagine earplugs probably wouldn't fix that.
this thread has certainly made me more aware of earplugs and how many people use them...id never even given them much consideration think i will do now especially as i start going to gigs more.
People sort of joke about tinnitus after a particularly loud gig but it actually sounds pretty horrible. I've got potentially quite a few gigs lined up for next term and I'm really starting to wonder if earplugs might be a good idea.
of tinnitus anyone want to enlighten me on the condition
googled it :D
I saw Dinosaur Jr in the Amsterdam Paradiso earlier in the year. They were loud but the support, Modey Lemon, were louder and the mix seemed a bit wonky. The bass was too loud and if I had my mouth open it was making my throat vibrate.
Was out at an Anti Nowhere League gig last night in Glasgow Barfly. As this venue puts on heavier acts the security staff wear earplugs.