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The Charts.

alcxxk [Edit] [Delete] 11 replies 02:58, 1 December '05

When i was little, i believed that every cd sold was tallied up, and that was how the charts worked.
Then at a later date, i was told by a kid at school that the charts counted how many copies had been bought wholesale, by HMV or whoever, in bulk.
then i read The Manual by the KLF, which tells about how cds sold in london count less than those outside, to try and represent the country better or something (apparently they send buying teams out to wee small places cos its more effective).
THEN this summer, i told a friend to go to the shops before the week was over, to help another friend's record in the charts, and he was said it was pointless.
he said that cd sales are only counted from a few shops, and it worked in a proportional manner, with the sales of a few shops scaled up.
also i am told that buying multiple copies of a single at once only counts as one sale.

so does anyone have a fucking CLUE how the record sales charts are collated?

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  • Not really

    Three things though

    1.Someone once suggested to me or tried to convince me (I can't remember which now) that each shop that sold music had some kind of electronic communication (scanners?) that would allow for collating sales at a central point so there is/would be no real reason for only certain shops counting in the charts.

    2.I read somewhere a while ago that the proportion that shops like Woolworths have in the overall say is pretty high and therefore quite unrepresentative of overall sales.

    3. I've forgotten my third point now but will mention instead that I am meant to be working on a job application form that is due in tommorow. And posting a vague answer on a thread is just making me more tired and likely to sleep through said deadline. Oh well.

    silence-r | 1 Dec '05, 03:22 | X
  • As far as I'm aware...

    Record sales are only counted from a select few shops, but proportionality doesn't come into it.

    Buying in bulk is counted as one purchase per format. If you buy both CDs and the 7" then it's three sales, cos it's three different 'formats' (in terms of tracks and stuff). If you buy three copies of the 7", it's only one 'sale'.

    Woolworths accounts for the majority of the single sales in this country (this was a FACT about two years ago, but I don't know now).

    The London thing is bollocks. When 'UK Garage' was making it's way in the world a few years ago, they published regional sales figures for certain singles (I think that 'Do You Really Like It, Is it is it Wicked..' tune) that revealed that over 90% of the total sales figures were from within a thirty mile radius of Central London. It's just that London has more record buyers.

    bamos | 1 Dec '05, 09:02 | X
    • Yeah

      that's right. The shops that are chosen to count towards the chart are supposedly chosen at random each week, in effort to thwart those pesky buying teams.

      tom_edwards @bamos | 1 Dec '05, 11:46 | X
      • why do you care?

        Very few good records enter the charts anymore. Plus if youve listened two it recently, two chipmunks are doing it. Theyr e very crap. They think theyre very funny but theyre just really annoying

        Annoying_person @tom_edwards | 1 Dec '05, 16:06 | X
        • actually

          lots of good records enter the charts. lots and lots of them.

          alcxxk @Annoying_person | 3 Dec '05, 16:42 | X
      • although aren't they

        including legal downloads in the proccess now though?

        They should go back to only counting sheet music. Imagine it, Mozart Top Of The Pops 4eva.

        thommo @tom_edwards | 1 Dec '05, 16:16 | X
        • no

          they should abolish the charts and have x-factor death matches each week.

          chico with an ocelot versus journey south with machetes. if we tell the public that they're paedophiles or asylum seekers then everyone who watches will be happy woth the gore.

          keiths_tele @thommo | 4 Dec '05, 02:01 | X
    • Woolworths accounts for the majority of the single sales in this country

      How worrying is that?!

      moribund @bamos | 4 Dec '05, 08:02 | X
  • well

    you do only get the cd that week.

    it'd be like paying for your meal when you order it, like at mcdonalds, rather than anywhere nice.

    keiths_tele @JDTraynor | 4 Dec '05, 10:29 | X
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