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Giving it another proper listen since played it loads when I first bought it. It's just clever. And good.
That it all.
Maximo concern is that Warp will make them rush out a follow up while they're fresh in people's minds and it will be lacklustre. But then that's my cornern with most of the one album bands from 05 that I like bar Arcade Fire. Look what happened to Franz! It's like bands aren't being given a chance to develop and grow before they're rushed out onto tour after tour so the record company can put out umpteen live dvds and albums then whisk them back into the studio.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's bothered by this.
But it'sall about the money. Fucking record labels.
*shakes fist in air*
about the instant gratification of our culture. It's partially our demand to hear them so soon after their debuts that drives record companies to pressurize them for a new album by the next year or so rather than leave them to it like a Radiohead who take as long as they like to do a new album and get to go and exercise other creative muscles ala Jonny Greenwood's composing project and Yorke's neverending campaigning. They return and make a richer. thoughtful album.
How many of the class of 05 will be allowed to do the same.
Hardest worked this year= Bloc Party. They're being rushed along in the same way as Kapranos and co. When were they not on tour this year.
I think the white stripes seem to be left to their own devices. Maybe it's just the UK? OR are the strokes victims of the production line ethic too?
Yeah, they're all corrupt 'n' shit!
MP will realease a new album next year cos they've been playing the album live forever and have written some great new songs which they'll want to put out as soon as they can.
Good for them. Good for warp.
and then stopped
Because they were just playing stuff that would eventually become A Certain Trigger.
New songs eh? I'll go see them again next year.
they've also released some Ruff Sqwad singles who I also like.
I can't really see warp rushing them, still odd to see MP on warp though. You can no longer when describing electronic music, refer to it as having a 'warp' sound because some smug twat would say "wot, like maximo park?"...
happen to franz? most reviews I've seen rate the new album higher than the old one...
the new Franz album. maybe even higher than the first. It doesn't seem rushed to me at all.
The singles - Walk Away is good but the first one Do You Wanna is hideous! I think the first one wasn't that hard to beat really but with more time the second album could have actually been one of the better pop albs of the year.
I think this new album is a progression. Of course we still have the Franz sound, but we now have a few different sounding tracks - Walk Away being one of them. This new album is littered with even better hooks, and a much bigger fuller sound. Take 'I'm You Villan'. That is a perfect sounding Franz track, but tighter, more together sounding.
It's the mark of a really good band, when they can take their sound and over time improve upon it. I think they have succeeded ten-fold.
fair enough. I suppose I don't see it.
They haven't progressed at all. Bigger and Better isn't progressing, it's just trying to improve on a formula, something which I don't think they've actually achieved in 'you could have...'. Their debut was just a sum of their influences and not really anything original, BUT arguably still quite good, (even though I'm not really a fan) so that's not really a critisism. The new album hasn't moved away from their influences at all though.
that's what I meant. By using Radiohead as an example of a band who have been allowed to take their time and produced some of the best music well since ever I was asking if the 'now' bands not being given long enough to progress led to a lack of progression as with Franz where the sound is arguably tighter and fuller but they don't deviate from what they were concerned with/exploring on their debut. Do You Wanna sounds like the new Take Me Out just with more bells and wry camp pomposity on it.
not just bigger and better.
Everyone has influences, no other band is any different. Franz have a signature sound and it would have been foolish to have moved away from this sound totally. So it is easy and lazy to say they haven't progressed beyond their influences/sound.
Their debut was a brilliant debut, but the whole album was very samey and not a lot of variation. I think this has disappeared with the new album, mainly due to the inclusion of NEW STYLE tracks such as 'Walk Away', 'Eleanor Put Your Boots On' and 'Fade Together.
At first i thought it was very brave of Franz to do slow tracks like this. But i reckon they've pulled it off. And it shows they are capable of delivering surprises.
Of course the album is still mainly the riotous pop rock sound that they are famous for. And they deliver this with gusto.
This could quite easily have been a carbon copy of the debut, but the added exta dimension puts paid to that.
Roll on number three i say. Maybe they will experiment even more.