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What does everyone think?
she's.... um..... quite pretty at the right angle and.... um... well it's all a bit coffee table/wine bar isn't it?
The day I start listening to mass marketed drivel like her someone shoot me.
but she lacks songs. songs that are good.
Ithink she's good, some of her songs are a bit reptitive and similar but she has a good voice and good style
she's the female james blunt.
bloody rubbish. It annoys me that people think it's like, sooo creative when she does that tedius building up of layers with a delay pedal. AMAZING. no one ever thought of that before.
she's not even coffee table, she's like the coffee ring of a horrid starbucks latte on the brown leather sofa of an A&R man's office.
and jools holland has the horn for her.
she is really really cute.
call me jools holland if you will but oh my god.
about KT Tunstall !?/
No thanks !
extremely disliked then? well I think she's got talent, but there you go, that's just my opinion.
I think she's great and I really think she offers so much more than Blunt/Melua/Jones/Dido etc. She is mass marketed and has now sold a hatful of records but that doesn't automatically make her rubbish. You can't hold her commercial success against her, surely!
true true! I HATE katie melua and norah jones, i think their absolute shite and ALL their songs sound the same!
just don't strongly dislike her !
But that's just my opinion...
the cold must be already getting on my mind !
loveeeeee KT Tunstall im not saying shes a musical genius or anything superb but her album is great and i enjoy listening to it....
i think erm no. to her and melua being compared to blunt tho they can at least both sing...
And going with what kevin says there is a lot of automatic resentment towards an album on this site when its been advertised a lot (unjustly or justly you judge) which to me doesn't make much sense but hey...
is the best new female s/s. She didn't have the nasty mass marketing hype machine behind her.
Erm KT Tunstall actually started in Glasgow coffee houses. I can't think of a female singer I dislike more. She's the same as Blunt but gets less stick because she's a woman and she's maybe pretty or from an angle etc wah wah excuses. NO Blunt gets no let off so why should she. It's patronising to drag looks into it. She's awful and an embarassment.
So Laura Viers - yes!
I've just got hold of her last album but apparently she's got 3 or 4 older albums - not new singer-songwriter at all! But anyway...
if you don't like Blunt don't listen. That's not really a debate though is it.
The question is what do you think. My answer is that her music is the most vapid, boring trash to come out of a UK female since Jem. She freely admits she's just a coffee house singer and as you say admires xyandz but can't write songs aswell as them. Fair enough but it all says 'I lack self belief and talent' She backs this up with the music.
It's sad that people are so willing to be apathetic to and excuse mediocrity and even worse that women can get such an easy let off because people seem to almost expect them to produce nothing of interest in the main. Of course there are female soloists you probably all like and respect but this one just has no discernable talent beyond being able to carry a tune.
think tory amos/orton/buckley.
Other girls should also start offering up decent alternatives to the dross females that the majors back.
you would though wouldn't you?
No. She looks like a drunken bricklayer that's fallen face-first from a great height into a cement mixer.
If I was a boy I think I could get a good replica on the high street. She looks like every other girl from NOW ever and The Little Flames singer.
This is true Paricide. She's a bit generic. Still, I was merely making a slightly obnoxious statement to the DiS collective.
with patricide on this, I know I normaly do but it can't be helped if she's so damn right all the time.
Her music bares little difference from the blunts and grays of this world yet she some how get's away with it because less is expected of female s/s, that, and a bunch of indie kids fancy her. It is pretty patronising to bring looks into it, if female disers on this board were fawning over james blunt despite him obviously making horrid music, everyone would think it was vacuous and bimbo-ish.
Anyway, am I the only who's noticed that she has freakishly knobly knees? It disturbs me.
I could have taken the frequent route of this board and just wrote KT Tunstall=crap and then insulted her looks but no that's not my issue with anyone. All I care about is whether it's good or not and why the male 'cult of bland' artists get such a rougher ride from male music fans than the female artists who do the same thing.
Gillian Welch should be huge.
Tunstall should not. I would consider it... but ultimately just be mean to her.
we wouldn't all be the same if we didn't like Blunt/Tunstall and other mediocre acts. Without liking any of these people everyone on here has different tastes.
I'm actually exasperated considering all the vitriol that's been directed at Blunt this year. I think he's got a harder and deserved kicking on here and yes people do expect less of female artists in the main. Everytime you look at a thread about one on here it descends into an is she or isn't she hot debate. It's precisely because decent female artists have a harder time getting noticed that I'm highlighting some decent ones as alternatives to the muck Tunstall pedals. so words in my mouth.....
It is apathy - what do you want me to relabel apathy as- indifference?
I didn't condemn her without offering alternatives as above in my posts
...is Damien Rice and his 7 minute songs where he only plays four notes and sings three lines.
Never has an artist disappeared so much up their own arse since George Michael released "Jesus asa a Child" and grew a fanny shapped beard on his chin.
that are far superior to KT: Laura Veirs, Cat Power, Nina Nastacia.
Carlene Bailey-Ray or whatever her name is. Anyone know who I mean? She fucking rules.
though it shouldn't be neccessary to provide alternatives, you wouldn't have to when slagging off blunt. I generally prefer female s/s to male ones anyway, vashti bunyan, diane cluck, josephine foster, kimya dawson, there's loads.
don't really have a preference between guys and girl s/s although Elliott Smith rules in this genre for me. I was horrified to see a certain James Blunt mentioned as one of his followers on allmusic.com though.
But I'll highlight what I see just as you would when you decide to OR maybe you're just happy to like what you like no questions asked. I just don't see why that mentality is ok sometimes and not at others?
I'd hardly call debating whinging. That just seems to defeat the object of what the initial question of this thread was.
To be fair, she does have some good songs that against my better judgment I can't help but enjoy. And there is something really attractive about her.
If we're talking male artists as a male I think with my brain. Lately I've mostly wanted to drive a stake through the heart of self sworn nosferatu James Blunt III. He is a derivative rubbish marketing ploy and/or a robot sent from the future to kill us all with MOR bulldross.
For reasons known only to the inner workings of my pants KT Tunstall who is actually the same as herr Blunt but female is Okay.
All the best
My Morphine is one of the saddest songs ever written.
Easily in the top 10 gigs i've ever seen...
The issuse at hand would be more her talent [or not as the case may be] with music, not the way she looks! Though, I do think, she is very pretty and her music is awesome.
But I only just realised that Patricide was a girl
That's thrown me
I've taken a leaf from your book and am listening to stuff I like.
haha that quote just makes me feel really sad aswell as bemused. I resisted that in the casablancas thread. It's irrelevant.
hitting your head against a wall
Same to you. I'm done with this thread.
i don't understand...
has that thread so many replies when threads about good bands aways get less than 10 replies...l
i.e obscure that few people on here a) know b) like. It's a good and relevant debate in some part because it raises questions about what's expected of female artists vs male artists and how it's generally thought women accept less from their music because they're blinded by the fact that a bunch of pretty boys are making it while men are the ultimate conaisseurs who refuse to be brainwashed and swayed from the idea of good music being creative/innovative/moving etc etc blah blah I'm bored again.
Good band as in good bands.
Last J & M Chain thread had only a few reply. The Mogwai thread had barely more than thread.
This thread has raised some valid questions but too many replies were about her being good/shit/good looking.
It's a 'good and relevant debate' because people get to give their opinions on KT Tunstall. Like Hedgehog asked.
Not that bad really. Especially compared with most other mainstream crud. Heer songs are relaxed, original and easy on the ear. Not amazing but not the utter shite that some of you are making her out to be.
on Jools Holland the other day. She seems slightly better than James Blunt and that. If I want that kind of music, I've got Viers, Bush, and Elbow.
Is it wrong to fancy Guy Garvey?
Who knows, but erm, yeah the whole point of this thread was to say what you thought and I was amazed to come back and find 60 replies....I was more surprised to find a lot of them were commenting on how she looks. Though the fact people keep making her out as a female James Blunt makes me laugh, on the contrary I love KT Tunstall's music cos it's not all drivel and depressing droning shit, whereas James Blunt...IS.
If anyone says a goddamn thing about me liking Placebo when I just said I don't like depressing droning shit, then i will shoot them....