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Death of 'Tupac and Biggie' number 5?
I think this is supposed to be a joke or something.
you dont like people that arent white.
and thats your own choice.
people getting shot doesn't really qualify as a Grrreat Rock Moment?
In the same way as John Lennon's death wasn't really great as such.
Alcxxk is an absolute cunt.
Christopher, you are a typical example of a posho little student. I seriously, deeply despise people like you. You find people like you in Manchester unfortunately. The minute someobody says something bad about someone that is black/asian, you are there with your snappy little voice: 'Oy! Facking raycist cant!'.
You've shown what a fool you are. I've said the fact that two people (who I do think were shit) like this, are the fifth most important rock moment is a farce. How dare you call me racist from this?
I want an apology right away. You are an embarassment. I hope you feel very stupid, for your shitty little outburst.
him after the 'non-white member' thing. That was stupid.
Everyone's taken it completely wrong. It wasn't at all attempting to degrade ethnic people, in any way whatsoever. A lot of people like to take it that way though. It gives them something to do that makes them feel better about themselves, in this case, call someone racist.
I brand you a neo nazi.
I love the way you're so oblivious to your ignorance, its hilarious.
Making a picture of two websites, in order to make a point. Did you ever stop and think... 'Hmmm. I wonder if anyone actually gives a toss if I think DiS looks like Pitchfork.'?
You need a new hobby.
I kill 10 white people every year just to prove I'm not racist.
and i dont feel "stupid"
i just made an off hand comment about how much you seem to hate music made by anyone that isnt white
(this thread more reminding of it than massively prompting it)
i dont seriously think that you have a little nazi shrine in your room, or that you harbor any actual ill will no non whites
just that you seem to have be the product of some sheltered upbringinging. and youre stupid.
that made me feel more stupid, frankly.
Verbal faeces. I'm not going to acknowledge such an idiot's points.
You type like a retard.
Your music on your myspace is shit.
people who do not have a white ethnic background would only be in a band as a gimmick or a fashion statement. That makes you the idiot. That and the fact that you assume pro-white statements make a Nazi. Is it just me, but weren't the main targets of Nazi racial policies 'white' Jews? Oh yeah, and 'verbal' and 'talk' mean the same thing.
It's funnier watching him digging his hole.
said Wiggles. "Its funnier watching him digging his hole... At least its something to think about, for my sad, pathetic little mind."
You misquoted him there.
Come on... I can't stand it when people twist what people say, to make out I've given some 'rule' or something: "...people who do not have a white ethnic background would only be in a band..."
Sorry? I'm not sure I said that. The three I know have black / asian people in them. There isn't anything wrong with it. I think Battle and Bloc Party are good, especially the latter. Just pointing out something.
I wonder if (apart from 'Wiggles', because he is a tosser) any people of ethnic background were offended by what I said. I doubt it. Its just an oppurtunity for you lot to jump on the high horse and feel better about yourselves. You are laughable.
PS. I have no idea what 'Art rock' actually is. I've heard it used to describe all sorts, and I may have used it incorrectly. I don't care, its a shit term.
I'm not offended. Amused would be closer to the mark.
Sure, PC thuggery is boring, but anti-PC thuggery is much, much worse because it sets such a dangerous precedent. You're treading a fine line.
do you care of nme 100 greatest rock moments ?
say that was one of the saddest moments in "rock"
as soon as you lot feel you have half a chance to accuse someone of being a racist, you seize it to show us how wonderful you are.
it depends on your definition of greatest. for a racist the death of two black people is great. for most people death isn't a great thing, maybe tupac and biggy should be in a monumental monemts in music list. but not greatest, and they're not rock n roll.
why does tupac get such a heroes reptutation this is a man who was found guilty of rape? any other person would never be forgiven for such an act....
"they're not rock n roll"
i expect technically you could say that about many of the bands that were in that list. i have not seen the list, so offer that as a suggestion rather than a YEAH WOO IN YOUR FACE FUCKO counterpoint. point is, as well as definitions of "greatest", i think there are varying definitions of "rock n roll", and for some i know it comes down to an attitude or a lifestyle, whereas others use it more to describe a very particular sound.
#5 in the list or not, i think tupac & biggie smalls' deaths were pretty significant. i don't mourn either of them, but they were hardly minor events in the music world - though it isn't a genre of music i claim to be any kind of expert on, i think their effect is still seen throughout hip-hop. and the nature of these men's deaths undeniably resonated with the sense of sordid drama that accompanies so many rockstar deaths.
maybe invoking the definition of rock n roll is a bit facetious. i do think that biggie and tupac is very significant. although it hasn't stopped him releasing records.
i really doubt the poll was called "rock" moments - cos biggie and tupac clearly werent "rock", but they were easily argued to be "rock and roll". thing is, i cant find anything on the internet about this poll and dont remember seeing when i flicked through the nme this week.
its disgusting to see how people clamber for the moral highground. we can talk about race without it descending into a sixth-form slagging match.
i was referring to the_authority's post. and correct me if im wrong, but hollywoodfreak, did you list those black artists to try and somehow prove that you couldnt be a racist? it reminds me of when david brent said his favourite actor was sidney poitier
Can we stop making snide and uptight remarks about race and go back to slagging off NME?
smash hits with guitars.
i should have throttled tim jonze when i saw him in leeds in the summer. he was with a well darling girl too.
So is this wrightylew dude a racist then?