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Some time this morning.
Listened to Present Tense for the first time in ages last weekend, bloody wonderful album.
Two Dancers is still in my top five of all time too. If I had to choose.
Produced by John Congleton!
holy shit that's awful
i quite liked that album at first, but have never had any desire to return to.
so... not particularly enthused by it, but don't think it's awful.
if not their ability to write a catchy song
But their move away from Cumbria/Leeds has gradually coincided with this change in style.
They were so much more...organic in those days. This very much feels "on-trend".
Not bad, just different
Not in a good way.
This is an odd one, in general it just sounds very tired. If that's the main single then I can't see there being much excitement about the album itself.
that and the godawful new bloc party record.
i saw them touring it as well :/
Thought it was mostly great, average in some parts but a great singles album.
This, however is not a good song
present tense was excellent
all great lads
also got a lot of love for Simple Beautiful Truth, A Dog's Life and Daughter
But don't get the "OH MY LOL is that bad" response at all. Sounds like what they were doing before. I think people just heard him say "bang" and decided it's awful.
Pretty poor overall, but far from hateful.
'apparently, the bare-bones of these songs were initially conceived of in writing sessions with Disclosure'
It's like they're aiming to wind up DiSers as much as possible with this one
good. DiSers are boring.
And I thought the present tense.cover was shite
From that cover. I replaced the present tense cover in my library with one I made, that one was so shite.
but the last album was really poor, I also thought their live show was getting worse as well. They came across pretty tired last time I saw them which was at Latitude. The new song and artwork doesn't inspire confidence. Sad really but they seem to have lost it.
Their show at The Arches in Glasgow was stellar for that tour. (But then I really enjoyed (and still do) 'Present Tense', so perhaps I'm biased.)
you care too much about the way we care too much about album covers
this one is a dire warning
that looks like Thundercats or something
Whilst Two Dancers is my favourite, they're still excellent, and I like this single.
...it's fine, but the lyrics lack a bit of subtlety. They seem to be aiming for a bit of a 80s Drive style look. I'll still get the album either way.
and they fell off a cliff around Smother.
came across those first 2 EP/demos recently and they were absolutely amazing. i hate the 'early stuff was best' cliche but boy their early stuff was fantastic. i think they were amazing even from the very early days; shambolic and brilliant. now they're professional and a bit dull.
they were an interesting indie pop band who began the transition into a mediocre synthpop band around the time of Smother.
If I could only keep two of their records, it'd definitely be the first two.
Smother was pretty good but can't remember the last time i listened to it
Two Dancers is the only essential album really
Two Dancers is phenomenal
The debut is overrated
Present Tense is excellent
This is a bit dodgy but hopefully the rest of the album is better.
Feel like they've lost a bt of the camp that makes them so good.
so bloody much. Present Tense is a clumsy bore besides sweet spot. And you forgot Smother, which is them 'maturing' but actually doing it well.
are absolutely abysmal.
It's just like they've rounded off everything that makes them good and interesting. Like they've re-imagined themselves for an audience of bros.
It's quite depressing.
Sounds like a brummie trying to say 'biking'
That goes absolutely no where.
"Big Cat was the first song we wrote for the record – its swagger and attitude propelled the rest of the writing forward. It's a song of the ego. Everybody has an inner Big Cat, but do you let it show?"
I can barely recall a song with less attitude and swagger...
The lyrics are frankly embarrassing in both songs
also a whole lot of nothing.
Whats happened to them?
they're not great anymore
I'm sad now.
I get bands trying to find space in the songs when they get older, wanting less drama etc, but they've become properly boring sonically. A Wimpier Talk-talk. And the lyrics are bad, really very bad. 'Big cat top of the food chain' as a hook just makes me wonder how the family cat is getting along with my parents.
career-defining record in them, they're creative and intelligent enough to make an album that's really astonishing.
Everything I've heard of this one suggests it's probably not this one, but I'm not giving up on them yet.
They basically became a different band. Their aesthetic fundamentally changed. The covers showed that. I like both albums, and I like their new stuff too, but only if I think of it as being a product of two different band. Thinking of them as on a continuum from Limbo, Panto sends me into a bit of a crisis.
I too think of them as two bands.
One that was great. Brilliant. Emotive, wonderful even.
And one that is dogshit.
That one I really like. Feels like it goes somewhere, at least. And sounds massive on earphones.
finally a decent one
it's actually pretty good, the singles work well within the context of the album (i.e this basically is the vibe of the record). the production on it is fantastic and tbh it's way more interesting than the last two records
Assume we'll get a few of the new ones in addition to the hits. "Girls from Shipley..."
lovin Tough Guy, quite white stripes-y!
Face value if anyone is interested?
The band have tweeted the link.
By yours truly: http://drownedinsound.com/releases/19538/reviews/4150259
It's better than Prtesent Tense but is somewhat immediate to the extent that I'm not sure it's going to have a great deal of longevity.
although there's a couple songs from it which are still swimming about in my head since reviewing it, so not instantly forgettable at least
the pre-ordered red version with a bonus 7".
It may just be me (though I am listening on a pretty well set up system) but the bass seems a fair bit more muted in the vinyl master than on the download we got sent last week.
Celestial Creatures is still awesome though.
'Everyone in this thread is on crack' post.
Album is great. A little front-loaded, but a few tracks aside from Smother/Present Tense, this is their most immediate and confrontationally sexy-but-sexually-awkward music since Two Dancers.
(Couple of weeks back at Brudenell). Same on the record, I think.
Have to say I have to come round to the opinion that Get My Bang is a real tune, daft but a tune nontheless.
Was amazing. The guitar shredding and sub bass are so incredible live. Agreed that He The Colossus is the peak of the album - they obviously are making it a big moment in the live set. Get My Bang wonderful too. I don't get the ambivalence for this album, it has a couple of slack bits towards the end but otherwise it's about the most bold thing they could've done at this point short of going folk-rock ...
Lyrically a bit questionable too. Do like the closing track - real earworm that one.
The only real stinker
is the weakest track of a really, really strong album. I'm still completely in love with the first five tracks, though. Big, bold, weird-sexy, fat and sassy.
It's like she gets it, and then she forgets that she got it, and rants about WB somehow losing the trajectory. It's totally about losing your id to the excesses you've restrained yourself against up till this point. It's totally about having a crisis of self and wrapping yourself in a shell of confidence, hoping you're the only one who knows how thin the veneer is. It's the leather jacket and the BMW Z4 of life, when you'd previously convinced yourself sex in the back of a Honda Civic was all you needed so long as love was involved.
LOVE IS DEAD. LONG LIVE THE BOY KING.
As a concept, this album is exceptionally heavy-handed and "on-the-nose". I liked the ambiguity of Two Dancers more, or Smother even.
It's decent in terms of music, as good as Present Tense at least, but no better. I've seen at least one critic say it's the best yet however (!) I find that a bit sad, especially since the band themselves also appear a bit dismissive of their earlier albums. They've definitely lost a bit of character, and become a bit more homogenous, since moving to London.
i agree with Laura, but i'd probably only give it a 5 at this rate.
find it a bit boring.
two dancers > limbo panto > smother > present tense >>>>>>> boy king
Two Dancers > Smother > Present Tense > Limbo, Panto > Boy King
Two Dancers > Smother >> Boy King > Limbo, Panto > Present Tense
Think that's about right, Present Tense is certainly my least favourite album of theirs.
Just loved the atmosphere production and soundscapes. As well as the vocals.
But anyway I feel like they have lost something with the lyrical bluntness and the whole image change. I thought they had something wonderfully subversive about them circa Two Dancers and Smother. In the way it was sensual and strange with the distinctive and changing falsetto. It was the opposite of macho presenting sexuality in a very different way then most male bands dare to. But music has also changed the falsetto is now overused in music and while he remains great at it the whole leather jackets, cool 80s thing its very macho.
I mean reading the interviews and looking at the track titles its clear that they are playing on this. But I just think this mode is just not as effective and makes for less interesting music.
not actually listen to the album properly yet so might win me over.
“Exactly, and it’s a huge artistic provision in itself, to still have that ability to surprise, to make somebody sit up and say, “what the fuck?” It was so thrilling, so life-affirming, to be throwing ideas around for this album and saying to each other, “how fucking dare you?” And we knew that would come with the risk that it might upset people who liked what we’ve done in the past, but better a brave and beautiful failure than a safe and regular passage, I suppose.”
So take risks in the bloody music then!
the singles make a lot more sense within the context of the album.
Definitely not their best record, but I like that they've pushed some of the things they've covered before to breaking point. There aren't many British indie bands who'd ever wilfully make a record as divisive as this.
And picked up guitars.