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Are there any?
I can't think of any.
The National are a rare exception of a band that certainly got better and better but they probably peaked with Boxer but have only declined slightly since.
I'd say it's on par with Boxer. High Violet is the only dip, but a small one at that.
they are all exceptional albums (Boxer and post Boxer) and the dip is very, very slight - but it is a dip.
(although Daisy is still good, just not better than TDAG)
Although tbf, I'm not sure I would say each new album is better... maybe just more idiosyncratic/interesting?
but it's close
but, as spiritofjazz sez, it is close. Every album's built on its predecessor in some positive way, I feel -- def. interested in how this next one will sound, given what they've said.
Most bands / artists stay around too long for the dosh (who can blame them). Inevitably most bands will have the better stuff at their beginning. More accomplished acts that can play exceptionally well (i.e. Led Zeppelin) grow into how they play so peak with their 3rd /4th/ 5th album before decline. More urgent bands (i.e. The Clash) have astonishing debuts then gradually slip away. The only bands that can therefore fit this are bands in an arguable ascendency whose existence is cut short (i.e. Nirvana).
(Not Yes the band). Yes Joy Division. Closer is a much better album than Unknown Pleasures although both are 10/10.
Tales from Topographic Oceans is absolute bobbins.
London Calling is easily better. A commercial and creative peak. It has a greater verity, its aged better and the best songs on it are better then those on The Clash.
The Clash LP was seriously let down by the flat drumming, that made the recordings seem some what flat when compared to thier live performances.
I actually think Sandensita! has some of the best songs on it, and could have well been their best album had they trimmed it down to 11 tracks. But instead it comes across as a self-indulgent mess, filled with sound collages, wacky production and drawn out dub pieces. In what appears to be a trick in order to ditch their current record label.
I guess it depends if you prefer the energy of The Clash or their witty lyrics and fusion of different musical styles.
but you get my drift I assume..
but seemed quite ZEITGEIST)
with the caveat that Vaya might be the best thing they did but as an ep it doesn't count.
Harmony in Ultraviolet is his best IMO followed by Haunt Me
somebody on this board who actually thinks he peaked with HIUV (and I agree, I preferred his earlier stuff)...
I wonder sometimes if we're the same user.
HIUV (is that the right acronym? UV is used for ultraviolet normally, but it's odd combining that with a 'classic' acronym format) is one of the high-points of the whole drone genre. His more recent works feel less cohesive (still better than most drone).
to reply to myself is a pain in the arse
SEAN - can you just come up with a drop down menu for which user to post under?
HIUV - don't know on the acronym, I've always gone with it, but I guess it's HIU. Hmmm.
works up til an imaginary country, then the last two could go either way
though I like Spirit of Eden slightly more than Laughing Stock.
But I've been listening to The Colour of Spring a lot recently and I'm pretty sure that's my favourite album of theirs.
I would rate Laughing Stock above Spirit of Eden though.
too 80s. Like a more experimental Tears for Fears album.
all people will eventually come to realise that laughing stock > spirit of eden
I like it quite a bit, but it feels a bit overly long.
just that I don't agree with its general assessment of being just slightly behind the next two albums.
but I'll say Hot Chip
but I would say the Horrors.
I'd says Skying is their best, even if it doesn't quite have the same highs as Primary Colours.
Something about Luminous seems a bit off to me. Not bad, not really that different, but just kind of there.
Primary Colours > Luminous > Strange House > Skying
I love Luminous far and away over the rest of their discography, but I'd argue Skying wasn't an improvement over Primary Colours.
less of a "oh hey, this is an MBV-esque song. How about a JAMC song for ya? Now we shall rip off Mother Sky.", etc. It may not have the same highs, but neither the same lows and is generally much more even in quality.
Luminous, I can't quite put my finger on it, but it seems a bit overly long in spots and sort of haphazardly sequenced, especially towards the end. Not bad, but sort of like the band really didn't know what to do next.
And then No Cities To Love came out, which is good - and even very, very good for an album by a reformed band - but it's nowhere near their best.
Just looking at his discography and I'd be tempted to rank in the opposite order to chronology
but all of his last 4 proper studio albums have been so perfect I couldn't order them
Definitely true for The War on Drugs IMO - loved Slave Ambient but Lost in the Dream stepped it up so much
Pretty Daze is definitely Kurt's best record for me too, and Smoke Ring his second best. The rest I'm unsure on
Sorry my mistake
that Matt Bellamy has been dead for at least four years and that it was a mere drone facsimile of him that appeared on Graham Norton's popular Friday night entertainment show last week.
If you look carefully, you can see the small aerial protruding from behind his left ear.
although Repeater is better than Steady Diet, there is a rough incline all the way to The Argument, which is the best record
Although everything is on a par with itself really. They just peaked with 13 songs and remained on that peak for the rest of their career
surely it's cheating if their early stuff's fucking appalling, and the new stuff just isn't as objectionable?
Until the Earth Begins to Part < Let Me Come Home < Weights & Pulleys
After that very overwrought and blustery debut, they've gotten better and better as they go on.
although many would disagree, also possibly St Vincent.
they all seem to think Strangeways was their best album. Not sure how many others agree though (not me)
How differently all those involved in The Smiths seem to view their career & discography from fans/writers. Will be interested to read Marr's autobiography when it comes out - Moz's book spends more time on his US solo years than The Smiths FFS.
Is that Strangeways is their best album.
It's very weird. Strangeways is a beautiful sounding record, far better produced than any of the others, which is perhaps why they are happiest with it. The standard of the songs is way lower than any of the earlier records though - a couple of classics (I Won't Share You, Last Night...) some by the numbers stuff and a couple of real clunkers. There's barely a weak song between the first three albums.
There's a whole other thread about how bad lots of artists are at assessing their own material
Actor > Strange Mercy > S/T > Marry Me
fucking Marry Me throwing it out of shape, all great albums though. I reckon you do have a point with The Smiths, but I prefer Meat Is Murder to The Queen Is Dead.
Future of the Left
Also FOTL Travels > The Plot Against Common Sense. Though there's not much in it tbf.
Audit in Progress has Hatchet Job though which pretty much elevates it above everything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmkec-QRqvk
Some bands do seem to have an upward trajectory in their career as their 'sound' gets more textured, but I think it's just natural for a band's last album to not be their best, or a league below everything that came before.
Once you reach the peak of the mountain, that's it.
but I was told there was simply no more mountain left to climb. That was it.
haha amateur. enjoy listening to pendulum on your beats headphones at base camp, baby
But only if you ignore their last two albums, so I don't think that counts.
Each album is successively more complex without losing their core identity, which is pretty unusual.
Little Dragon also seem to have gone from Strength to Strength.
I'm sorry, but the last album was pish. You know it. I know it. The Knife know it. Everyone knows it. An utter train-wreck of political posturing, po-faced self-seriousness and a dearth of the actual music they were once capable of. It was recognisably The Knife, yes, but the sort of recognisable you get when you switch the TV on to Crime Watch and realise someone you once loved has done something awful.
Fly Lo was doing well till You're Dead! Stop rapping, Steven.
although I dont think it tops Silent Shout that album has some awesome tracks on it.
Maybe controversial here, but I much prefer You're Dead to Cosmogramma. Its just so nice to see a great concept perfectly executed on an album. You're Dead reminds me of the great Jazz and Psychedelic records. I love it, was my AOTY.
so I'm giving it a spin right now to see if time has made me any fonder. A Tooth For An Eye and Full of Fire are both decent tracks. Cherry On Top would be an interesting drone-scape if those bloody vocals didn't come in. Without You My Life Would Be Boring is barely B-side fodder, but Wrap Your Arms around me is a considerable step up.
My opinion might be wavering more favourably, but it's a long, long way off Silent Shout or Deep Cuts. Right now it's a strong 3 song EP being crushed under the weight of ART.
Raging Lung and Networking.
I really think that its the posturing and obnoxiousness of ending the first half with a 20 minute ambient drone piece, that puts people off.
Old Dreams Waiting To Be Realised is still a horrendous waste of time; it's neither dreamlike enough to be Drone nor interesting enough to be Ambient, it's just 20 minutes of unpleasant, unrelatable noise. Raging Lung is actually a lot better than I remember, and Networking sounds like a vocal-less reject from Thom Yorke's The Eraser (which isn't awful). Stay Out Here is more of the same barely processed midi beats, only with dull vocals and horrible lyrics this time, and then we have the even more pointless Fracking Fluid Injection and the limp tail off of Ready To Lose.
Overall I liked the album more than I did last time. But I maintain it's a mini album's worth of worthwhile material surrounded by spaff of the first order and still nowhere near the league of Silent Shout or Deep Cuts.
Like I love Silent Shout, but I sort of feel like there was Nirvana effect where so many people ripped it off that I find it hard to listen to it without thinking of cunts like Chvrches. Maybe for me it's that that draws me into STH.
I think we can agree that Deep Cuts is nowhere near as consistent as the latter two albums? And the first one - like, let's not either bother.
all three albums are great, but they do progressively extend their range and so arguably each is better than the one before.
Third is the absolute tits though.
but there is nothing in it really, they are both great. All three albums are really great. I don't really think each is better than the predecessor but I do think each is broader in its scope and ambition. This is particularly the case with Third (perhaps because of the longer period involved) but is also discernible between the first two records.
Dummy > Portishead >>>>> Third.
Third's saving grace is Machine Gun. I seriously think the only reason people went so nuts over that album was because of the 11 year wait.
cuz it's a music thread and we are listing bands we like
Peaked with 'oil on canvas' then knocked it on the head.
Ok only 3 albums and all released in 2 years. All great but every one is better than the one before IMO.
and while it's pretty damn close there's just no way Figure 8 is his best work, as good as it is.
(That and it being his worst)
I know two different people for whom Figure 8 is their favourite record - think it's ESA's fave too. Take that out the equation though and the pattern works for me, which is what I meant.
Until Merriweather. Then more of a side-step than a descent.
Centipede Hz was easily the worst Animal Collective record for me and I reckon Feels is maybe marginally better than Strawberry Jam (maybe)
really should (my main issue for me is that they released it at a rubbish point in my life for anyone to have released an album)
it's not great. suffers from the same claustrophobic kind of show-offy studio trickery/lack of decent songs that Panda Bear's last record did. underwritten and overproduced IMO
Not even sure I agreey full with this one (contra/modern vampires are about as good as one-another) but they've grown so much in stature/maturity since their debut that I reckon it works
so far anyway. But I'm at most a casual listener to their music, not a long time fan.
If they keep improving I might actually start liking them by their 5th release.
and they struck me as a band who i think are getting better with each record
That last one was total dogshit.
but only just, Brand New Eyes is damn near as good as the self-titled record.
Neutral Milk Hotel
H from Steps solo work
this view may get me thrown out of my local shoegazer gentleman's retirement club however
don't really agree otherwise. Pygmalion is good, but not as good as Souvlaki (though I think both are over-rated overall)
I haven't decided yet, they're either each better than the last, or each as excellent as each other. Sharon Van Etten narrowly misses out because Are We There, while a fucking bangin album, is just not Tramp.
Nearly Taylor Swift, too;
S/T>Fearless>Red>Speak Now>1989, but this order frequently in my estimation.
three brilliant albums, each definitely better than the one before.
answering machine music < pocket symphonies for lonesome subway cars < twinkle echo < etiquette < vs children < a shut-in's prayer
I've not fully checked my working on this one yet, but I reckon I'm definitely onto something
if that song is representative of the album then its gonna be a right steaming turd
They clearly did 4 great albums, and the differentials may be marginal but on the right day I may go:
No shouts>axes>power out>rock it
is their best album by a distance
all three are great albums but they seemed to have honed their craft to perfection on Slow Focus.
But I'm sure that will not be universally accepted
St. Vincent > Strange Mercy > Actor > Marry Me
Pale Green Ghosts > Queen of Denmark > Everything by Czars
Well, if so, then Local Natives.
if you ignored the Pussycats covers album as a non-studio album. And I like, nay love, Lisbon, but it's a drop after You & Me. Heaven is more close to that's high watermark.