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EXCITEMENT LEVELS. UNCONTAINABLE.
it made me fall head over heels for Biophilia
I don't think she's done a really good album since Vespertine.
imo, her weakest album is probably Volta.
Volta was so, so, so weak.
Medulla was great, though. Biophilia was adequate.
I'm looking forwarding to hearing this but I think the HEALTH announcement got me more excited. I went off like a firehose.
Just collaborating with trendy artists to conceal a lack of ideas.
I remember when everyone was excited when she was working with hip young producer Timbaland... and revolutionary noise-rap renegades Death Grips...
I thought they just did remixes of tracks on her last album
but they just ended up using chopped up samples of the vocals she recorded for the final tracks.
Dunno if its going to be rubbish necessarily. Agree that she hasn't made a brilliant album since 2001, but all of her records since have had some good bits on them and she's always genuinely interesting. Think Haxan Cloak in particular might be a good fit also. Really hope so cos if it all works out has the potential to be great
given the intricacy, 'multi-medianess' of Biophilia (which worked best, I think, as a live album), I'm going to predict something a little more raw, upbeat and dancy
I thought Biophilia was smothered by the weight of all the concepts.
I've got massive faith in Bjork though - one of the most consistently creative artists of the past 25 years.
I hope also that she looks inward rather than outward. I know Biophilia was meant to be about the connections between small emotions and large forces, but too often it came across as impersonal ponderings on the shifting of tectonic plates.
leaked already lol
now about to put it on and go for a walk
in the mean time, who are your ideal producers for a bjork record? i would like to see mr mitch and holly herndon
so good. more driven by the string arrangements than you'd expect from arca/haxan cloak on production. very vespertine-esque. antony hegarty does a guest vocal at one point.
there was nothing redeeming about biophilia for me so you've got me even more excited for this. tell us more
Btw, I didn't download it. Have a stream link (let me know if it can be shareable by Dis rules).
think Sean will get a bit anxious if you posted an illegal stream on here though.
i don't know where it sits in the legal-sphere.
and did seem to be a return to tha vespertine kinda sound though the strings are a lot smaller, but it gets quite weird and interesting in the middle. some crazy vocal stuff going on. one track 'not get' was awesome.
SERIOUS Homogenic vibes all over the place. Enlisting the help of Haxan Cloak and Arca was a really great choice, because this album sounds absolutely brilliant. It feels like a return to form for her, and it feels like she's still got a lot of creative ideas rattling around in her head. The production on "Stone Milklet" alone floored me.
I'm SO glad that I really love this. I didn't love Biophilia or Volta (I strongly dislike Volta), but I adored this new one right off the bat. I can't wait to listen to this a whole bunch more.
Downloading now. Can't wait!
and so it seems... although it's sad for her if she has had a bad breakup
and I'm going to work soonish
I loved all her stuff (even most of Volta!)
And love this. Starts quiet (still good). Those last 3 tunes are fucking great
Not sure why it has the reputation it has. I'd much rather listen to that than Biophilia. Particularly 'I See Who You Are' which is absolutely gorgeous.
Same problem as Biophilia for me. Gorgeous vocals, exquisite production, but zero memorable tunes.
Still, I want to listen to it again, which is always a hopeful sign.
The slower stuff is a bit slow/meandering but it is at least better than the sparse string stuff, it could grow on me
I think Atom Dance is the best track. Absolutely stunning.
It's a really beautiful album, undeniably. Just not a very memorable one.
but It's growing on me already
and in general this album talks a lot about nature and the universe like biophilia but does it in a way more emotional way instead of just shouting about plates clashing or whatever
"Stone Millets" probably the best actual song.
the production is what makes the album though.
what were you expecting? what do you want?
THEN we'll be talking.
you know like on vespertine and earlier albums there are songs you remember?
She could go off on all these weird, experimental tangents but still at the core she could write really great songs. The interesting experimental side has persisted, but her ability to construct a memorable melody seems to have gone.
As beautiful as these songs are, they seem very formless and unstructured. They just sort of seem to drift by in a singy-songy way without having any impact.
Maybe I just need to give up and adjust my expectations when she releases an album now. But that just seems like a shame.
is just the dumbest thing if you mean it seriously. she's gotten a bit more out there but she's hardly "experimental" music. volta, medulla and biophilia all have "songs", and loads of my absolute favourites.
seems you're lamenting the lack of "bangers" but personally i find a lot of the dance-y stuff off the first couple albums unlistenable now. just dated horrifically badly.
I'm not looking for dance-y stuff. I don't like that stuff as much as I do the likes of Homogenic and Vespertine (one of my all-time favourite albums).
I'm saying songs. Melodies that connect. You're right, this isn't a vastly experimental album in the grand scheme of things, but that only heightens the lack of melodic drive. They're ALMOST songs.
Medulla has songs on it. Some really great ones. So does Volta. Biophilia less so for me. They also drift a bit. There are some great moments, for sure, but moments do not great songs make.
This is obviously a very emotional album that a lot of people are connecting with. That's great. But I guess I connect with music differently. With more listening maybe more will start poking out. History of Touches, Black Lake and Atom Dance are highlights for me so far. But too much of this drifts anchorless. Maybe that's what an emotional album about heartbreak needs. Fair play.
All i'm saying is. She used to be able to convey this stuff, these emotions, this playfulness. But marry it to solid songwriting that helped drive the point home. I could hear it in my head after it finished. These songs just sort of drift off into nothingness once the album finishes playing.
I'm hoping that changes with more repeat listenings, which i'm already doing right now. So I obviously don't hate it otherwise I would've given up by now.
Vulnicura is powerful and emotional and I think it will grow in force over time. What it lacks, like Bjork's recent albums, and as bruised_blood says above, is many truly memorable songs.
There is a sense of a fantastically constructed, intricate and really interesting backing track on the one hand, and a beautifully sung, interesting vocal on the other. That can be pretty wonderful and always fascinating to listen to but for me the two parts often seem to be completely seperate from each other and not to coalesce together into a anything that really works as a 'song'.
It's not that I dislike it - I admire its ambition and its artistic fearlessness - but I feel it lacks the real impact and staying power of a masterpiece like Vespertine.
I particularly like the start of the record and a struggling at present with the second half and especially the middle of the record (Family and Notget) which just seems formless at times. It's a record which really demands attention (which is not necessarily a bad thing) - if you don't concentrate on it 100% you find five minutes of it have drifted past without you noticing. Vespertine, in contrast, demands your attention - you can't half listen to it because it grabs you by the throat.
and you said something vague about the old stuff being better without offering any further explanation
"choons" implies people are looking for hit singles, which isn't the case.
musical compositions for instruments and voice is an invalid criticism
getting all these cool producers in and then the end product sounding like every Bjork-produced beat off Homogenic/Volta/whatever. They sound totally redundant.
Nice record, but can't see me playing it again and again like her previous stuff.
haxan cloak did half of one song then mixed/engineered the album with her and Chris helm
"Alejandro contacted me late summer 2013 and was interested in working with me. It was perfect timing. To make beats to the songs would have taken me 3 years (like on Vespertine) but this enchanted Arca would visit me repeatedly and only few months later we had a whole album!!!"
"It is one of the most enjoyable collaborations I have had! I then went ahead and wrote string and choir arrangements and recorded them in Iceland. Towards the end of the album I started looking around for a mixing engineer and was introduced by a mutual friend of ours, Robin Carolan to The Haxan Cloak. He mixed the album and also made a beat for one half of 'Family'. Together with Chris Elms the engineer we kinda formed a band during the mixing process and this is the album we made"
That said, I'm previewing tracks on iTunes and it's pretty good.
when the crowd cheer not once, but twice, during 'Hollow', thinking the song has come to an end. It sums up a lot of Bjork's music at present: songs are always a minute longer than they could be.
having said all that, I am enjoying Vulnicura immensely
Shows how personal this album is + very interesting part about the role of female musicians.
Think it's absoultely brilliant. Genuinely can't understand the 'no songs' critisism either. Family, Black Lake and Atom Dance in particular are transcendental. Don't think picking out individidual tunes is the way to listen to it, though. Just take the whole thing in, man
Anyone know if this is streaming (legally) anywhere yet? Doesn't seem to be on deezer.
I'll be buying the vinyl when it comes out but don't want to be handing money to apple as well in the meantime.
a lot of these 6 minute tunes could comfortably cut down to 3
anyone would think this wasn't a valid criticism
This came out the day after it leaked:
Everyone's reviewing it. Slow down guys!
the interview they ran with her this week was conducted back a few months ago, and the writer in question had heard the album (presumably given her questions) so they've had access to it before this week.
there are a sight of needier sites/blogs posting their 'premature' 'evaluations' though
I'm 'enjoying' this more now. Maybe not enjoying. Appreciating. I basically haven't stopped listening to it, so she's clearly doing something right.
History of Touches, Black Lake, Family and Atom Dance are getting a lot of repeat listens. Quicksand is starting to click a bit more now. But I'm not taken with Lionsong, Notget and Mouth Mantra particularly.
But time will tell.
I stand by my original statement. There are no 'songs' here in the traditional sense. But thematically I think the music works really well with the lyrics. It feels utterly heartbroken and lost.
That 'Maybe he will come out of this loving me' line did it
Pretty much the same as mine.
It is a wonderful record though, that really repays repeated careful listens.
I still struggle a little with Family and Notget but the rest of it is amazing. I loved the first two songs from the first listen, and the rest is slowly sinking in.
will I get an immediate download?
but this must be pretty brutal having this out there. it's so frank.
Just noticed on amazon that the vinyl pre-order now has the 'autorip' symbol which means you'd get the album in amazon player straight away. Then checked bjork.com and you get an instant download mp3 on the pre-order (or upgrade to flac if that is your thing). Same price as amazon when you factor in postage.
the only track I think is slightly incongruous is Family, it's just a bit jarring I kind of feel like the mood she's creating doesn't align so well with Haxan Cloak's Krilic's deep bass juddering.
Family is one of my favourites, and I find Notget horrendously jarring to listen to. Instant skippage.
Somebody described it as 'pirate-y' too, which was the final nail in the coffin.
there's a vocal bit in Lionsong that reminds me of either a bit from Ys or a previous bjork album but i can't work out what
'Around midnight, she led her flock to Prikid, a packed hip-hop club, where she danced nonstop, sang along and downed shots of birch schnapps until nearly 4 a.m. “Best! Song! Ever!” she shouted when Amerie’s “1 Thing” hit the sound system.'
Pretty sure it's her best album since Vespertine
but it would be nice if they streamed this.
feel like I have just about given this enough time to start to really appreciate what an incredible piece of work this is. I'm glad and actually pretty surprised it has got the critical praise that it has because I think it takes time that generally reviewers don't have.
First songs that really hit me were Lionsong, Black Lake, Mouth Mantra & Quicksand but with a few listens, the initially jarring and dense middle section of Family, Notget and Atom Dance really start to reveal themselves.
Obviously the beats are incredible but its kind of driven and underpinned by the strings isn't it?
When it's OK to point out the emperor's clothes here. I've had enough, pick up a high energy guitar band already.
Because Bjork's last few albums have had raves all round.
I think it's on thursday.
Tracklist and that...
That show is insane as it is. It's only on the second one too. Tri Angle can connect dots like no one else.
it provides a great bit of info about what was influencing her at the time of recording, really good.
love that 16th century japanese drone thing
that "songs" argument is the most hilariously DiS thing ever
The strings, her voice and the lyrics all really play off of each other.
Seriously love this album.
Best since Vespertine.
2015 fuckin RULES.
I had to rack my brain a bit to get the voice to register for some reason, I was like who the fuck is that... They work really well with this kid of atmosphere going on around them.
On my first couple of spins I'm still intrigued.
*fingers crossed I get tickets*
is breathtakingly awful. It looks like something someone spent way too long spunking out in the mid 90s on graphics software no one remembers.
shark jumper from way back
was it before or after the swan dress?
it's being kept a secret. Some MIF guy in the paper the other day said it was a very exciting special guest or some shit. I reckon it's FKA Twigs, nobody on Twitter seems to know though.
it's Arca. Wouldn't class it as 'very exciting' but oh well.
but I like Twigs much more. Also I was hoping to redeem myself for having to listen to half her Glastonbury set from the toilets while I crapped my brains out.
Weirdly sparse crowd for an apparently sold out gig, and not exactly a party atmosphere, but thought he was pretty brilliant. Brutal though, my ears took a bit of a battering having forgot my earplugs :(
Highlights - Black Lake, Hunter, Bachelorette, Lion Song, Hyperballad.
I was surprised and impressed by Arca too although I was a bit disturbed that my level of enjoyment of the music seemed to coincide with all of the points where the projections were of boobs.
my first time seeing her live, it's been a long time coming, but it was great. Butterfly dress was awesome, backdrop film was mesmerising for the most part, kept me really engaged in it, band were really good, even though the sound got quite ropey. I did think it was a poor venue for it, probably would have worked better in the Bridgewater Hall, but I had a lovely night so I'm not complaining.
Arca was pretty good as well, apart from some North American gobshite getting right up in my face and shouting at me "do you actually LIKE this? I mean, come on really?"
Which particular one were they?
i'd never heard of him but really enjoyed it
though wish I hadn't drank as much because I thought I was going to fall asleep towards the end despite being enthralled by the whole thing. Silly me.
Bachelorette was stunning.