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Trolling shoegaze thread more like! That Chuck Eddy guy huh?
like 3 stars for everything, whether it's Nickleback or Einsturzende Neubauten.
of all three Slowdive albums for about a tenner. 2015 shoegaze result
Because that site's interesting. It starts out listing bad reviews of albums that are now considered good, but as it progresses, it instead starts to list good reviews of albums the author didn't enjoy.
In doing so, it doesn't necessarily undermine RS's credibility. Rather, it merely highlights that musical taste is completely subjective, and that any form of musical criticism is therefore inherently flawed.
For instance, towards the end of that list, the author pours scorn on RS's reviews of Bowie's 90s albums. In reference to either Hours... or Black Tie White Noise, the author says something along the lines of "there are no words to describe how bad this album is".
But they're both good albums! When I read that, I was THIS CLOSE to writing a rebuttal of his rebuttals, in the hope that somebody would then write a rebuttal of my rebuttal of his rebuttal. This would expose music criticism for what it really is - a hellish echo chamber, a nightmarish reflection of a reflection of a reflection, sprawling into irrelevant infinity whilst forgetting that music is supposed to be listened to and enjoyed on its own terms.
I think you're right to some extent, but I think the author's point is that the reviews in question fall into one of two camps:
- positive reviews that don't really say much of anything ("3 stars and fuck it, whatever"). This can apply to negative reviews too.
- Extremely positive reviews that are largely there to appease established/popular acts
it all paints a portrait of a publication that is really afraid of looking out of touch or like an artist releasing a bad album somehow destroys RS' own credibility for hyping them on earlier releases. the list certainly confirmed my suspicion that the only releases that get anything above 4 stars (that aren't reissues) are from established acts and often applied for the reasons cited above..
Five stars for A Bigger Bang by The Rolling Stones, yet only three stars for The Great Eastern by The Delgados.
The entire career of Grace Jones written out of history.
Yes, it does raise the eyebrows. And the hackles.
But I think the point still stands - through painstakingly archiving 500 bad reviews from a single publication, you have to provide some sort of criteria for what makes for a "good review". And reading through the list, it seems that a "good review" is one with which the author agrees.
As such, you could condemn literally any music publication on identical grounds. There might even be grounds for saying that this makes RS a bit of an easy target, given how concerned they are with legacy and reputation.
I don't disagree (RS really wasn't too far off about Nevermind), though I think there's a consistent theme of the reviewer ultimately either missing the point of what the artist is conveying and criticising them for it or just half-assing it as a whole. Considering a lot of classic albums are being reviewed, it's not going to be too far fetched for one to disagree with the initial review, especially if it's lazy or missing the point.
A decent record to start off 2015: http://luminousorange.bandcamp.com/album/soar-kiss-the-moon-data
Also noticed a brilliant early EP of hers is also on the Bandcamp page: http://luminousorange.bandcamp.com/album/luminousorangesuperplastic
Thanks for the heads up, will give it a listen right now.
glitchy ambient Shoegaze a la Lovesliescrushing meets fennesz
best of the year so far.
i.e. very good.
tracklist + Setting Sun track:
Deep Wound is pretty good, but Setting Sun is not.
but it was either the layered guitars of Raise / Mezcal Head or the VERY strong songwriting of Ejector Seat Reservation that made them good. 99th Dream had a couple of great tracks (99th Dream, Wrong Treats) but wasn't that great. Prefer Setting Sun if I'm honest.
to be a honest, I'm not really expecting much more than a decent followup to 99th Dream*. Deep Wound may not be their best track, but it's good enough. Not quite sure how you can prefer Setting Sun though; just sounds like standard stock "Alternative" and sounds undercooked. An album of Deep Wound clones would definitely be the better scenario.
*to be honest, I'm not convinced any of the possible Shoegaze reformations can come at all close to their original run, barring MBV and Medicine.
what surprised me with the shoegaze and 'nugaze' mixes I put on mixcloud was just how well the latter stood up against the former, even against tracks from the 'classic' albums of the original shoegaze movement.
I see what you're saying on Setting Sun, but Deep Wound sounded too much like a re-tread to me, whereas Setting Sun was at least a bit of a tune. It could be the first Swervedriver album I don't buy though, which would be a shame.
Lush and Chapterhouse never impressed me, so bands similar to them I'm generally indifferent to.
a lot of the other newer bands though... the best ones are the ones generally doing their own thing, but the ones that don't aspire to be anything more than Loveless + Souvlaki (+ Psychocandy "for variety") don't impress me at all. There's maybe a few good tracks, but there's like no variety because they're completely unwilling to waver from their formula.
were way ahead with their second album, they totally mixed it up.
got a new album coming out this year
got their 555 mini album from a few years back.
I like the sound of this track too.
Their other stuff was decent, but I wasn't too excited for it. This album sounds pretty good so far though.
sort of Asobi Seksu crossed with earlier Mahogany:
I think I've found my new favourite band. This album is glorious on first listen.
Shoegaze for the 21st century.
No idea why I always liked bits way back, it does indeed have a similar vibe to this:
Lapalux - Without You (ft. Kerry Leatham)
they're a band I've felt like I should really like for a long time, but they've always been fairly one note. This one has a bit more variety though.
I remember discovering this band on MySpace back in 2009 (when they were called Volcano Playground), and really liked what I heard, but aside from an EP of demos, there was no proper official release from them.
However it looks like they’re finally going to release an EP this month, and the promo track is sounding good!
kind of a cross between Curve and Tamaryn. Bit more the latter than the former, maybe.
but it's less than the sum of its parts
Sounds like the new album will be very relaxed.
Which is nice.
Some nice wooziness on this one.
I haven't heard this song by them.
Scala on the 27th May
I'll be the balding dude with 90s dance moves
Have you caught them live since they reformed? I've seen them a few times and they are super tight. Hoping it's going to be loud...
to my eternal shame.
Good news re: tightness
I mean the new stuff is OK and all too, plus it probably has no bearing on this time since they have a new LP
...a greatest hits set each time I've seen them. Looking forward to them mixing in some of the new album this time.
£19.95 well spent
outtakes from his most recent album.
Great news - most consistent recent shoegaze act in my view, punchy and diverse enough to remain interesting over an album.
I dunno, I find myself getting bored with them midway through all their short albums.
new track sounds pretty good though.
yep, definitely the best of the new gen shoegaze bands.
Liking the sound of the new track.
looks like someone is working on one. Sort of surprised there isn't one already, but as near as I can tell it's only bits and pieces in other books.
I like it better than I thought I would; especially since her last album was kind of dull. Her guitarist apparently left a few months back.
her guitarist was 50% of her sound
true, though I didn't think their last album was too great. If she's going to go full-on pop, she's pulled it off better than others (I'm looking at you, Tame Impala.)
it was a bit dull in places, about half good. The Waves was outstanding though.
but it's not bad
wasn't expecting to like this. do those guitar whines sound really reminiscent of an mbv song but i can't pick which one.
Interesting lo-fi shoegaze from Perfect Pussy’s vocalist.
Enjoying this, lovely upbeat shoegaze from Chile.
shoegaze bits are a bit more explicit, but still pretty poppy.
Liking it, better songwriting than Tender New Signs, let's hope she can maintain the standard over an album.
Pretty good. Like No Age crossed with early MBV.
Quite a few of the bands on here included (Pinkshinyultrablast, No Joy, Debris Slide, etc)...
Imma gon check this out! Delighted Gemma Hayes has gone back to a semi-fuzzy sound like her debut so good choice
and his band Bellavista released this Tamaryn-esque (or perhaps Shelverton-esque) squall in 2012:
Nice. Be good if they could put an album together.
the singles are great, but the only real standouts.
why are they making us wait?
I think the one track they released was uploaded as soon as it was done. as far as I know, they're still working on the rest.
but I don't wanna wait any longer
Not much about it particularly leaps out at me after a couple of listens admittedly, but the last track is absolute gold at least.
They've also got a double EP coming out November 13th
Nothing innovative or anything, but decent enough
EP in a month, album in January.
Still sounding amazing;
Drop Nineteens 'Winona'
Swervedriver 'Rave Down'
Pale Saints 'Way the World is' , 'Throwing Back the Apple'
Chapterhouse 'Pearl' , 'Falling Down'
Boo Radleys 'Buffalo Bill' , most of Everythings Alright Forever
Hadn't listened to Chapterhouse for years, really surprised it sounded so perfect.
Was My Aquarium the B side or just off the same album?
The first time, The Radioheads was support.
but I bet at least the Drop Nineteens were good!
I only saw them once and can't remember who supported.
I do remember getting to King Tut's pretty early and seeing a guy who was trying to fire into my flatmate (think he put some gigs on locally) sitting drinking with the band. So I sat down and introduced myself.
Must be shit being on tour and having to put up with every prick who ever bought one of your records trying to be your mate.
And on the album, but then they re-recorded it and subtitled it (second time around) and released it as a single. Fully electric rather than the acoustic album track, it's much better and well worth seeking out.
and has been for a few months, it seems:
you're in luck:
so much outrage could be prevented if people realised Whirr was mediocre at best and that their edgelord humor is not at all witty.
nothing groundbreaking certainly, but a bit more consistent than normal. Not quite sure why its review here read as semi-disappointing while the damn Cheatahs record got a 9/10.
But seems a lot more derivative than their first. Looking forward to RD though.
It is more of a grower than their first album and I would agree with the DiS review that "What sets Mythologies apart from its predecessor is Cheatahs no longer rely on volume or visceral angst as their centre point of creativity. Instead, there's more emphasis on melody and repetition and less constraints to make the record people would have expected based on their past works". Ultimately, while I miss the volume and still like the first album more, it is a solid follow up (but not a 9/10 album).
like instead of the songs taking off, it's yet another shoegaze band that's too content with just being kind of pretty.
I wouldn't have learnt that it'd been released if it weren't for this thread. Will download it tonight.
searching for 10 minutes now to find somewhere to buy the digital files, and nothing.
as a quick search as shown that it's available on Amazon, iTunes, Spotify
I knew bandcamp was a long shot, but I was hoping I could get them direct from the label at least.
Yeah it looks like you can only buy it in physical format from the Club AC30 store.
it's like the label wants people to find another way to get the digital version
I really enjoyed it and think it contains some of their strongest work to date.
I like the latest Cheatahs record, however it’s maybe not quite the 9/10 effort that the review suggested, as although it’s more consistent than their debut, it doesn’t quite reach the heights of some of the standout tracks from that album. Good live band though, and I enjoyed their set last night (although a little gutted they didn’t play Northern Exposure).
Ringo Deathstarr are easily the most consistently interesting/enjoyable of the current crop of shoegazers.
good to see a slightly expanded repertoire — in the form of some massive pumpkins-esque solos and riffing — and some excellent recreations of Lush's and Curve's sound, on top of the more familiar MBV and swervedriver inspired material.
Easily the standout shoegazer release this year.
Probably their most rounded release. On their strongest tunes, they don't try to hard with their pedals, and when they know the tune is a bit thin, they chuck in some new effects. They manage to be slightly derivative without being crass about it, unlike [cough] Wolf [cough] Alice.
for the past few days. Hazy.
they were excellent. and loud.
Definitive collection or what!? Very happy to see Dr Phibes, Sweet ajesus and Lowlife make the selection.
otherwise not bad.
What with them being mentioned in the text and being on creation and being dazzled reading the tracklisting. Just Kev being awkward maybe? Shame.
"I’ve lost count of the number of journalists that claim to have invented the name as a form of ridicule, but later went on to champion awful tuneless Britpop bands like Sleeper."
the Britbox comp or whatever had them. Fairly glaring omission in light of a couple rather odd choices (Flaming Lips? Bark Psychosis?)
would be nice to hear a non-vinyl rip of those Bowery Electric and Catherine Wheel tracks.
couldn't give a fuck about the lack of any MBV. It's the thought of hearing a whole bunch of tracks from early 90s shoegaze bands unknown to me that I find exciting.
Nice this, hope they record an album.
just found them the past few days. I like that they mix in heavier psych-rock into the genre; makes it a bit less generic Alt. Rocky than the usual heavier fare.