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but generally they are expensive because of a combination of parts & popularity right now
£400ish for a brand new Korg MS-20 mini is not expensive though
a Buchla modular system is a different story altogether
Probably because they are old technology that now only has a niche market, where as in the past there would also have been mainstream applications that have been replaced by cheaper easier digital stuff.
Like with guitar pedals analog delays used the same BBD chip as 80s karaoke machines used for there echo, they stopped making those chips until recently where they have been resurrected specifically for pedals but as such a smaller market so pricier. Also read once tube amps were only viable now as they shared some process with computer monitors, computer monitors have changed and tubes are still around so I don't know.
The arturia micro brute looks pretty good for the money though
it is pretty sweet so far but it's a whole new instrument for me so have no idea how limited it is/isn't
has a built in sequencer though which is pretty good as I understand it
Fred Welsh's 'Synthesizer Cookbook'
looks good, I don't rly understand any of this stuff
shame the patches are for dual osc synth, the microbrute only has one (poss part of the reason for the cheapness?)
but I couldnt get it to do much
I suppose it needs time
unless you're willing to accept its good just because he's got one
mind it is good to watch the demo stuff etc, now I really want a monotribe (also cheap) cos of this though
three oscilators and a nice filter plus other stuff
this is all just volca, a couple of delay pedals and a reverb pedal
i like the limitation of it being monophonic but would also like a poly synth some time
It is a less cool option but the korg gadget ipad app is like having an army of different volcas, obviously not analog but a good emulation
The synth initially comes out and is fairly expensive, but its re-sale value plummets almost immediately because there are lots of them out there and they're all new. Then some time passes and there are fewer of them out there in good condition, the manufacturer has stopped making them and the component suppliers stop making the parts. At this point, the price starts to go up.
I'm sure if Roland could still be making Junos now, they probably would be, but without the same chips inside them they wouldn't sound the same so there's no point.
Really analog synths ARE cheap. A Korg Monotron is an extremely cheap analog synth. When you start adding bells and whistles, quality components and patented filters etc. it adds cost and value and drives the price up.
In my experience if you can get the money together more expensive synths are worth every penny you pay more.
ok its probably only modelling analogue
i want a korg polysix
i bought my boyfriend the 'I Dream of Wires' dvd for Christmas but it only arrived today. so excited to give it to him. he's got a moog and a korg and loves all that stuff. i know he'll love this dvd.
No-one's had anything but positive comments about our synth sounds, so it's not like your audience can tell the difference.
If you are just using 'synth sounds' in some song then certaint an iPad can be fine but in terms of actual synthesis analog and software can be a different universe. People can 'tell' but not in the sense of "oh this sounds 'warm' it must be analog", more that you are just making a totally different kind of music
Hi - it's Aidy from You The Living! Yeah, we definitely do have different approaches. We use iOS app versions of Novation synths, simulations of the MS-20 and Kaossilator and a couple of ridiculously noisy synth apps, whereas you have that crazy, incredible table of mass destruction.
For what you do, you really can't do that with an iPad. What we do is relatively basic - just your run of the mill synth sounds and a few effects. I played my iPad against a real MS-20 and the difference is so negligible I decided there's no point in me and Natasha having yet another thing to lug on our little trolleys. We're also a very unique case in that our iPad was free, so most people would have to factor in the cost of the iPad and a control keyboard, which is more expensive than a LOT of synths - the cost of entry is about the same, so unless you already have an iPad, is there really much point in comparing the two? It wouldn't have crossed my mind to try it if I didn't already have one, but I'm glad I ended up with one, as it completely changed my music career for the better!
We should make a day of being really geeky and pitting real synths and YTL's iPad approximations against each other, head to head. If anything, it'll be fun!
Yeah that is all true :) And softsynths are pretty great these days. I had lots of fun making noise with the ms20 app on work iPad a while back, the only downside being not be able to patch into other synths like one would with hardware :)
They are an extremely niche product with high resale value do to rarity, and that they are highly refined analog electronics requiring lots of R&D to develop and without the number of units sold to reduce manufacturing prices as much as other consumer/pro electronics.
They're actually cheaper than ever tho, modular has never been more accessible
In the big scheme of things, there's more affordable stuff out there than ever.