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it was rammed. still, a sitting down b&s gig is enticing, a bit
Found this on The Guardian venue guide...
'It’s a dynamic space, and the potential for screening off areas of seating allow the space to be tailored for slightly smaller artists, too, such as Queens of the Stone Age and Vampire Weekend, with adjusted capacities of 5,000, 7,000 or 9,000'
but that's a really fucking terrible album name
will still go and see them at the hydro mind you, the gig in kelvingrove in the summer was cracking
First great album of 2015 hopefully.
my hopes aren't high though. The last album was so bad I only listened to it once.
Seriously - I didn't think much of it when it came out. Revisited it not too long ago and it's actually a really, really lovely pop album. Really lovely.
Only listening to it once is the wrong thing to do.
Not as good as the first two records or Dear Catastrophe Waitress sure, but still very enjoyable.
I bought the LP when it came out and despite a few nice tracks never really felt it came close to the 90s stuff. Can't stand Dear Catastrophe Waitress.
Will no doubt listen to this one anyway, I do love them still.
You're all nuts. The opening track alone is one of their best songs. The one with Norah Jones on is a bit poor though.
would make it onto any B&S Best Of that I'd compile. Some absolutely belting tunes on it:
Come On Sister
The Ghost of Rockschool
Sunday's Pretty Icons
I Can See Your Future
All right out of the top drawer. I'll take it over The Life Pursuit every day of the week.
that's the only album where they actually sound fun
Agree that it's quite fun - if you like stompy, pastiche-y glam pop. I like it the least but each to their own.
Just remembered this is gonna be the first album since Mick Cooke's left. Big blow. Big, big blow.
as is the first track, and I Want The World To Stop.
I'd listen to it over TLP any day,
but the last one really didn't click. Yeah it was the usual folky indie pop as expected but it just washed over me. Didn't see it coming was nice, I really like Sarah Martin's vocals, but I can't remember anything else.
That album was so embarrassingly bad I haven't been able to listen to them since. Horrible, horrible record.
the pastiche worked for the Life Pursuit, because it served the lyrics. But the last album didn't really have anything driving it- same pastichey music but no real voice. The best track was the one where they weren't trying to sound like anyone else- I Didn't See It Coming.
Looking forward to this though, even their worst albums have a few absolute classics on them (like The Model on Fold Your Hands).
Also they're not really 'playing arenas' in the usual sense, it's a special hometown gig being promoted 8 months in advance, although the Hydro seating capacity is like 12,000, which is twice as many people as they played to during the three Barrowland shows in 2010. Their profile hasn't really increased during that time, and I doubt it will with the release of this album, but maybe as it's a seated gig etc they're hoping that more casual fans will attend or something, I dunno. Not as weird as The National playing the O2 arena I guess.
Staunch defender of Fold Your Hands, Child... here. Always have been; always will be.
B&S at their worst in the Jeepster era > B&S at their best in the Rough Trade era
^ Pretty much. Dear Catastrophe Waitress is an exception to this but, for the most part, it's true.
the thought of someone thinking that Beyond The Sunrise or Nice Day For a Sulk is better than Sukie in the Graveyard or Dress Up In You or Mornington Crescent or Your Cover's Blown.
For The Price Of A Cup Of Tea, Song For Sunshine or Mr Richard!!!
I love the flute bits, the lyric is a bit throwaway for an otherwise lyrically strong album. Song For Sunshine isn't awful but should've been left off the album, Mr Richard is obviously terrible but just a b side.
- three really good tracks;
- a lot of filler;
- another terrible song by Stevie*
*Obvs he has written a couple of decent ones. Jonathan David in particular.
To Be Myself Completely's ok I suppose. Got a lot of love for:
The Wrong Girl
though. Seymour Stein gets a lot of flak but it's absolutely gorgeous. Might have more to do with the band's arrangement than the song itself though - the incubative version on the BBC Sessions isn't exactly great...
that's not right
but yeah, the arrangement is a but muddy... most of Arab Strap sounds like it was recorded via tin cans and a piece of string.
I've always liked I Took A Long Hard Look, and Travellin' Light is nice, Scooby Driver too. I think that Jonathan David was a co-write with Stuart- I'm sure I read that Stevie had the story/concept and Stuart wrote most of the song.
(although I can't always tell the difference).
That Jonathon David single is one of my favourites with that and Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner on it.
Stevie sings it. Although it is a collaboration piece I think Stevie still brings home the songwriting credit. Not sure. Doesn’t really matter – great song.
I thought that songs like Seymour Stein still got flak as a hangover from the post-`Stuart’s letting the others write the songs now and it’s horrid` kinda vibe post Boy With The Arab Strap. Glad to hear they don’t. (Although Chickfactor’s still terrible).
Anyone ever get Stevie's solo album?? Me neither. Got a couple of Gentle Waves and Looper LP's somewhere though. Crumbs!
Worth it just for this song which sounds like Flight of the Concords- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir8Vya4Asrs
Is the best thing about the album the title of it, pretty much?
The ones before were a ten and a nine respectively. So I'm hoping for good things from this one. The song on the trailer sounds nice.
Hoping they play some new stuff but they almost certainly won't as they haven't being doing any on the US tour and there won't be any rehearsal time between tours I don't think. Will be my 10th B&S gig I think.
Allie (standard B&S pop song): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T4RdC2Kxoc
Perfect Couples (Stevie song, 7 minutes long, Your Cover's Blown pt.2 ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD7kjNieKSU
Also songs called Book Of You and Enter Sylvia Plath, which no-one seems to have put up on youtube yet.
Stuart is literally playing a keytar.
hope they'll be more visible now.
stuck in my head since one spin
Realise this was all some time ago now though.
the song is as pastichey as I've come to expect from modern Belle & Sebastian, but is actually really fun and certainly better than most of the stuff off the last album. Really looking forward to the new record now. These days they do the disco thing much better than they do the jangley pop thing. Though on hearing this, it's bizarre to see that they haven't been playing Electronic Renaissance in their sets this year.
same kind of vocals. ah, the more i hear it the more i enjoy it.
sort of wish I was going tonight as they appear to be ignoring the last 2 albums on recent setlists
Sun May 03 2015 - CARDIFF St David's Hall
Mon May 04 2015 - BRISTOL Colston Hall
Tue May 05 2015 - PORTSMOUTH Guildhall
Thu May 07 2015 - CAMBRIDGE Corn Exchange
Fri May 08 2015 - NORWICH Open
Sun May 10 2015 - BIRMINGHAM Symphony Hall
Mon May 11 2015 - LONDON Methodist Central Hall
Thu May 14 2015 - MANCHESTER Albert Hall
Sat May 16 2015 - NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE City Hall
Mon May 18 2015 - BUXTON Opera House
Tue May 19 2015 - LEEDS Town Hall
Fri May 22 2015 - GLASGOW SSE Hydro
Sun May 24 2015 - LIVERPOOL Docklands
Bristol tickets acquired.
but by the standards they've set, I wonder if they've had a weaker lead single...
Cos if it's the former, you don't actually have to look far for a weaker one.
and Write About Love would not have made the cut.
Where do I start with them? Will I ever get over his vocals?
if you're feeling sinister
the boy with the arab strap
if you don't like them when they were at their best i doubt you're ever going to get into them
who didn't like the first few albums. My parents love those records and hate the early stuff :D
Personally, I'd start with Push Barman to Open Old Wounds. Obviously it's a comp, but it's the best collection of songs they've put their name to. If you don't find anything to love in there, it's probably not the band for you... but you could try the Life Pursuit too, I guess.
Think it's gonna be a tough sell frankly but I should at least give them a go innit.
but my friend got into them through The Life Pursuit.
Love the new track.
I'd choose Tigermilk and Dear Catastrophe Waitress. Tigermilk is the pinnacle of their twee, self-produced phase; DCW is the pinnacle of their glossier poppier phase. Plus DCW has Stay Loose on it, which is one of my favourite B&S songs.
That's why The Life Pursuit was such a disappointment: Stay Loose and Your Cover's Blown hinted at a more electronic direction; instead, we got Quo/Glitter Band pastiches.
If someone digs Tigermilk, they're gonna be in for a real treat once they get If You're Feeling Sinister on. Well that's what happened to me anyway.
DCW good companion piece. And you're bang on about The Life Pursuit being a let down after it. DCW strikes an often perfect middle ground between their twinkly indie and their BIG POP sensibilities. Don't begrudge them following the latter path in the slightest, but it's not entirely for me...
even if the setlist was average (Manchester the night before got The Model, Le Pastie, Dirty Dream and Dog on Wheels!). I really like the new songs. Also that's the second time I've danced on stage with them (no medal this time though!).
Also, that Bexhill Pavilion place is wonderful, beautiful venue and really lovely staff (even the security staff!!).
Sinister > Arab Strap > Tigermilk > DCW > Fold Your Hands > Life Pursuit > Write About Love
Storytelling would probably be after Fold Your Hands. Love Scooby Driver, Fuck This Shit and Big John Shaft.
Obviously Push Barman is amazing. Really like Third Eye Centre and don't get why more of that material didn't get on to the albums. Like, TLP doesn't have the track The Life Pursuit, but gets Song for Sunshine.
As ever with Belle & Sebastian I look forward to whatever they release next, always some gold in the mix.
Early listens suggest it's not as cohesive as DCW or Life Pursuit, but a lot more exciting than Write About Love.
honestly there's something about it that really reminds me of early b&s. i think it might be the vocal melody.
Listen to it again and say shit like this over the top:
`Our plans are tailored to fit around you. No matter how big, or how small. And you can be assured that you and your family are safe in our hands. Whatever is around the corner.
Neptune Finance. The future. Your way.`
Think the video is great also. Something about the women singing is really intriguing.