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Will this work?
pretty psyched that i'm gonna get to hear about the jabberwocky fallout for at least another year though
I can't buy a ticket for something like this a year in advance. Maybe in a few months though, it sounds like a great idea
everyone will have forgotten Jabberwocky was even a thing and ticket sales for ATP events will plod along as before
Last guy at the party who won't leave, next to the stereo, playing linkin park remixes.
'London. August 2014. Something brilliant happened.'
Not sure if that's the best way to talk about it...
I've heard that before.
That they have nothing to do with ATP/hulk hogan
if I was one of 8 people paying £20 for what turns out to be a 'bands from Slough' night at the Dublin Castle I'd be pretty pissed.
Seems like a perfect thing to do a Kickstarter for - 'here's the budget we want to make a great event, if we don't get it then it just doesn't happen and nobody gets charged'
Kickstarter sounds like the way to do it.
A bloke who bought an ATP ticket once?
This is mental.
It seems really logistically improbable.
I don't get it.
to whichever no-mark knocked up this blog in half an hour without even an indication of who might be playing.
the mailto leads to email@example.com
and seen more bands in a single venue than have loads of bands I like playing at the same time and (because of the size of the venues) only being able to see one or two.
Which is one of the many reasons this is a shit idea.
and at first i really didnt get what this was about - honestly seemed really stupid to me. but now i get it and i've bought a ticket.
for reference, he used to put on the British Wildlife festival in Leeds, which always had a brilliant line up, though i never went cos Leeds.
here's one of their line ups:
tickets for that were £20, and tickets for this fallout thing are also, at the moment, £20, for two nights. even if it's the tiniest bands in the world, he wont book any shite, and £10 a day for music is fine.
tickets are available through reputable, established ticket agents - i bought with wegottickets - who dont advance fees to promotors. if this doesnt happen - and i cant see how it wouldnt - refunds will completely hassle free.
i dont see it not happening because the financial logic of it is completely sound. you give them £20 and they put that towards booking bands. the more tickets are sold, the bigger the bands. i reckon they'll get some solid stuff sorted and then raise the prices to get even better stuff, so am glad i've bought early
i dont think they need a kickstarter though, cos they've already sold enough tickets to guarantee that two gigs will be happening regardless, and kickstarter's about reaching a certain amount to make something happen
it'd be good if they did more to appear legitimate so that people feel more comfortable getting involved (reference other events, have more than a Wordpress page).
For starters, I have no idea how I will dry my hands at any of these potential events after I have washed them in any of the venue toilets. How can I be expected to spend money on an event where critical issues like this aren't addressed?
As at the moment this is simply bloke who exists wants money to put on undisclosed gig.
like i say, at first glance i thought it was just a bizarre awful idea, cos there wasn't enough solid, easily accessible information - most notably the price, which i had to root around for, even
We would also like to state that we do not want to disrespect ATP and their work. They have given us some of the best experiences in music of our lives and we are sure will continue to do so for many years. There has been a lot of mud slinging going on since before the cancellation of Jabberwocky. We’re sure all involved at ATP would rather Jabberwocky went ahead as planned and took no pleasure in having to let so many people down. We just want a long term positive to come from the already triumphant result of the situation."
and the Jabberwocky lineup though isn't there?
(which would be fine in general, but this seems to be going for some sort of ATP replacement vibe)
What is it?
We started out with the manifesto: if 8 people buy a ticket it’s a meal booked in a restaurant. If 8000 people buy tickets, we’ve got a citywide movement and a budget to deliver an incredible weekend. This may have come across as naïve. But it becomes what the people make it. We’ve already sold enough tickets to stage a very solid all day event in one venue. The venue we already have lined up. However we want it to be so much more. We’d like it to become a two-day multi-venue event combining some of the best DIY promoters in some of the best DIY venues. The bands people want, in spaces they’ll love.
At the moment it’s a all day event in one venue, but that’s changing every day as ticket sales grow. We hope it becomes a two-day multi-venue event with a closing party in one space on the Sunday. But that will only happen as ticket sales dictate.
When is it?
21-23 August 2015.
Where is it?
We have a number of fantastic spaces in East London lined up to be involved. The scale of these depends on the number of tickets sold.
Why don’t you do it in one venue?
We hope to reach enough demand in order to organically grow the festival, slowly announcing partner DIY promoters and venues as it does.
We want to put on as many great bands as possible for one ticket price. To do things properly it needs to be in more than one space. But don’t worry, our concern is getting a great selection of good bands on rather than pumping as many venues full of people as possible to watch average bands. We want bands to have time to play decent sets, for this they need set up time and we don’t want to compromise on quality. We know how annoying it is when two bands you love clash and we will try to avoid that as much as possible.
Will all the venues be in a close proximity to each other?
All are in a close enough proximity to make seeing as many bands on the line up as possible, possible. Of the core group we currently plan to have, the longest walk is nine minutes. No public transport necessary.
Can I get on the guest list?
No. We have personally pledged and bought tickets ourselves, as we want this to go ahead on the largest scale possible. If everyone goes on the guest list, there is no event. Please give us all the support you can afford.
How can we trust tickets to an event with nothing announced?
This is a completely justified concern. We selected the ticket agencies that we did because they fully secure your ticket money. We want to look as transparent as possible. The nature of the event growing with demand over the course of the next year dictates that it cannot be cancelled. We’ve already outgrown the restaurant; we’re just excited to see what it grows to next.
Does my ticket get me access to everything?
The Worm Catcher ticket will give you a wristband with access to every venue that is a part of Fall Out 2015. It takes balls to put your money where your mouth is and we are rewarding people who invest in the project we believe in.
Will ticket prices increase?
Yes. The worm catcher tickets are only for people who invest their trust in us and lay the foundation for our overall budget. Once we start announcing bands and people start knowing what to expect the price will increase slightly. We will make sure that we give people plenty of warning before we do this.
Why did you do ticket sales instead of a Kickstarter?
When we started planning announcing Fall Out, we sat and discussed the various business models available to us. Our main concern with a Kickstarter is that we had to say, we want it to be X, and therefore we need £Y. Our concern was primarily that it could then fail becoming that, but could have been something lower scale with the people interested. Our secondary concern was that this model also doesn’t allow it to grow organically.
With ticket sales you can develop it as interest grows. We’ve already sold enough tickets to stage an event in one venue. However, due to overwhelming demand from people on email and social media, we have launched a Kickstarter campaign to aid with fundraising here. And would love it if you would pledge to the cause.
Why is the Kickstarter set so low?
We set the Kickstarter low as a starting point. We are going to set stretch goals within it. We feel our model for the festival is the perfect model for implementing stretch goals. We hope that the campaign acquires the backing to make it a multi-day multi-venue music festival but we also have a number of fundraising ideas to help make it become that outside of Kickstarter.
One of the main things that we discussed about the launch of the festival is that we wanted to grow it organically. Build some funding, add spaces and promoters that people love, and grow it from there. Make of it what the demand created as it grows. We feel that by not making a huge Kickstarter target, we are still able to do this.
What else will you be doing to raise money?
As well as tickets and Kickstarter we will be putting on a couple of fundraiser gigs and have a few other ideas in the pipeline. More information on these will be available soon.
Are you ATP in disguise?
We are not ATP in disguise. We have nothing against ATP. We have regularly been and plan to still regularly go to ATP shows. We love what they do and they are one of our many influences and in no way aim to jeopardise that by what we do. We hope we can continue attending ATP events for many years to come.
Can you put my favourite band on?
We will do everything in our power to put as many bands on that people want to see with the budget we have. The promoters that have shown us interest in being involved demonstrate that if demand dictates, we should end up with a weekend long mix of phenomenal music. We are aware that we are new to this and some bands will not be available to us. We aim to bring as much new and forward thinking music to this festival alongside a few veterans.