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streaming on itunes Radio (possibly just US, but there may be a UK stream available as well)
Sounds great so far
much better than I was expecting, really eclectic and well-produced.
definitely one that delivers first time, and yet continues to open up on successive listens. No real weak moments.
It's a Spoon album
it says something about Spoon that 'Transference's status as a merely very good album represented a bit of a blip. This restores all the confidence that should never have been lost in the first place
Seems more immediate than Transcendence, lot's of great hooks (Do You is becoming my favourite Spoon song).
merit such a brief and empty review on this website. 8 is a good score, but surely there's more to say than this?
Getting a bit fed up of moaning about reviews on DiS, but they need a serious quality audit.
8 is a decent score, but the review is brief, shallow, trite, rushed, skittish and just poorly written.
So I don't usually reply to people slagging off my reviews, because people are entitled to their opinions - that's life. If you're going to critique it then please don't just throw words about. Try and offer some sort of opinion of your own or at least justify what you're saying.
Factually, 550 words is a decent-sized review - 400 is about the average on DiS. Yes, there are jokes in there. Does that make it trite? I don't think any band should above a few humorous remarks.
Anyway, I guess this is shouting into the void but here's the line of argument in brief:
- Spoon records usually fall under the same narrative 'consistent', 'underrated' etc, as one commenter alluded to above
- This simplistic viewpoint is sort of fitting because Spoon aren't showy. They like to keep things stripped back. Transference was this philosophy boiled down to its purest form
- Opening the record on 'Rent I Pay' makes it seem like a continuation
- Actually it's not. Spoon aren't underdogs anymore and Daniel has recruited a guitarist 'who can solo' to evolve the band
- The tracks go off in a lot of different directions, more so than usual. 'New York Kiss' is the biggest signifier than this because it was originally intended for Britt's solo record
- Despite the shift, it's still a Spoon album because all Spoon albums are good, right?
I don't really think me writing that is going to change anyone's verdict on the review. Some people liked it, others aren't fans - that's the way it goes. I guess I'd just rather lay the argument out as simply as possible so you can debate it instead of just dismissing several hours work in a couple of lines. But hey, the internet!
and wouldn't (indeed didn't) go as far as wonton in my criticism of your review. However, the fact remains that :
1. You don't really mention the new record until the third paragraph
2. You mention only four tracks in total, ignoring already popular songs such as 'Do You' and 'Knock Knock Knock'
3. You don't mention the influence of either producers, especially David Fridmann, who the band haven't worked with before
4. You make the interesting claim that this is an 'album about identity' and then don't expand on it (whose identity? how is this theme developed?). Likewise, the comment about it being an album with a lot of heart
5. In an album full of interesting lyrics, you quote only one
6. You rely too much on seemingly smart but empty sentences: "Accosted by forces old and new, Spoon keep strumming on. As if they’d do anything else" (well, surely, they could do other things, as Britt Daniell has done in the last few years)
Lastly, and this is directed to DiS as a whole, reviews really should be well over 500 words, or better edited.
Thanks for the critique and I won't rant on as your opinions are fair and well-argued. I'd take umbrage with the 'identity' comment as the review essentially states that Spoon have shifted from the stripped back band of Transference to something more flexible with help from a new guitarist and the inclusion of Daniel's solo song. Also, its DiS and this is a Spoon review - it seems likely that most readers will know the name of the new album.
Fundamentally, I think you want something that the review wasn't giving. I'd rather try and capture the spirit of the album and offer someone something to debate than describe songs and lyrics that people can stream for themselves on iTunes. Anyway, I appreciate the thoughtful remarks.
like many DiS users I suspect I do indeed want something that very few of their reviews have ever and will ever give, which may be more my problem than theirs (though, being me, I'm inclined to think it is theirs)
Really like it, never given them much of a listen before, I'm gonna have to rectify that now.
On a different note, the combination of the band name and the album title sounds seriously, seriously creepy.
For the record: Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga > They Want My Soul > Girls Can Tell > Kill The Moonlight > Gimme Fiction > Transference (of what I've heard, and each album is at least 8/10)
the rest would go:
Girls Can Tell > Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga > Kill The Moonlight > Gimme Fiction = Transference
Feel like I'm doing Transference a disservice there cos it's still really good. Gimme Fiction is half INCREDIBLE, half a bit meh. Girls Can Tell is just perfect, so atmospheric and noirish and tightly-wound.
Still not heard the first two, do they match up to the later stuff at all?
I used to think Spoon were consistently good, but never really had those few "great" songs, like say The National.
That's all crazy. Spoon I'm pretty sure is the greatest guitar rock band on the planet right now.
Then I think Spoon and The National would be about equal...but for me I prefer my indie rock to be grandiose, cathartic and melancholic (The National) rather than immediate, varied and tight (Spoon), so Spoon come off second best. Still love them though.
and a mood for The National and never the twain shall meet.
(i.e. no need to compare them, just enjoy them separately)
also = possibly great band name
I guess I was trying to say I find myself more often in the mood for The National than Spoon.
although having The National 'Humiliation' play as the sun set on an evening train ride the other night.... perfect.
Spoon more suited to striding along on a Sunday night, or a quick dance in the living room
just been stung by a wasp and my brain is muddled
I think they suit pensive and sentimental moods though, which is about 90% of DiSsers, so...
Spoon are a great barbeque band, and they also fit well onto most playlists.
My fucking word this album is incredible innit.
Outliers and New York Kiss are just fantastic
Bit annoying really, there's no way I could buy one copy of the album and get 2 wristbands, is there?