and were they as big as the biggest bands of the 90s (Nirvana, Radiohead, Oasis etc), and did they make as much money?
Granted some of those were active in the 90's too, but I'd say they were all pretty much up there in terms of being the biggest bands of the last decade and a half or so.
The Strokes, too, I suppose. To start with at least.
What a shit decade
the mantle of shitness to Coldplay
but b-list in comparison to the guys aactv mentioned (and green day as kennedy curse mentioned).
no idea about record sales for any of those bands but id imagine all of those bands must have sold way more units and made their labels way more $$$ than arcade fire. arcade fire's massiveness stems from their critical backing and not their pumping hits like sex is on fire/mr brightside/clocks hits surely?
but dis fucked it up for me.
was gonna ask what people thought (without looking it up) the best selling rock album of the 00s was.
i was gonna say american idiot. the list i was using is very possibly wrong, but their answer shocked me. thinking about it a bit more it makes a lot more sense.
Black Keys definitely. I saw them play 3rd on a bill topped by The DATSUNS in '03!!
Black Keys got massive. Not my cup of tea, but that's the facts.
are you drunk
1st 2 lps were great power pop. They DID become pretty popular, for a bit. Gee should I have said Oasis?
serious lol eternally @ new pornographers being one of the biggest bands of the 00s.
in terms of album sales I think you might be right.
but Bon Jovi deserve to be up there as well. They make a ton of money but the vast majority of their income is from touring, not record sales. This article is a few years old now, but was based on their 2011 world tour in which they made $125 million. They did an even bigger world tour in 2013:
are an 80'as band really though
as were one or two others who have straddled a few decades.
I suppose my point was that they are still raking in cash despite what could be seen as their kitsch, three-decades-old appeal. I'm not a Bon Jovi fan by any means, btw.
and have a handful of decent songs, not a fan either.
although they did have a resurgence in the 00s I guess.
and a musical ffs
20 million compared to 14 million.
I've noticed a very odd line of thinking where Dookie was completely forgotten. It's also coupled with an impression that Green Day were mostly has-beens by the time American Idiot came out despite having a few multiplatinum albums (albeit not nearly as big as Dookie was) with a couple of pretty popular songs from each.
they were completely washed up by the time Warning came out
but a top 10 album with 3 singles that did well? Not really. American Idiot was certainly a shot in the arm, but they never really went away.
just a greatest hits album
Were huge for a time - they made their blandest music in the early 2000s and sold a lot of albums.
I didn't live through these eras, but from all the music I've listened to and the films I've watched, the 60s, the 70s and the 90s had zing. The 80s were pretty rubbish. The 00s were just bland.
those were the days.
Or Never Mind The Bollocks. When was the last definite CLASSIC album?
But I think know what you mean
but if you're gonna go down that route, Mellon Collie is the canonised one
Siamese Dream is widely considered to be their best.
Burial - Untrue
Are the two big ones I'd say. There are some more but you can already hear the influence of those two really clear already 7/10 years later.
2000 was the last good year in history.
idk what it is but there's just something about that album which prevents it from belonging with to that ilk. I acknowledge it probably was the best album of the 2000s.
An opinion expressed as a fact. I just feel that 9/11 and other shit events have clothed the planet with veil of permanent doom.
hit an age where you could actually remember and percieve events from 2000 onwards so don't see those years through the veil of secondhand nostalgia that every other era is presented to you with. i.e. the majority of stuff now is shit, but the majority of stuff has always been shit. people who were our age in the 70s just like to present that time as if it was constantly brilliant
'people who were our age in the 70s just like to present that time as if it was constantly brilliant.'
I'm a person our age from the 2000s and I really did think it was shit. Granted I was an angsty teenager for most of it, so I'm willing to admit that my view may have been distorted by personal teenage shit I was going through, but even culturally I don't think I'll ever look back on it with a yearning to revisit - compared to the 90s it was pathetic. (I was old enough to remember the late 90s and I genuinely think I was happier then, I may be wrong though.)
All I did in the 2000s was play video games, get bullied, and cry about girls who didn't like me.
and chances are when you're telling your kids about the early 2000s you'll be telling them about the golden age of progressive video games and great tv dramas, and recommending the (however few in your opinion) groundbreaking albums of the period and filtering out all the shit because you don't want to tell them about it. and then they'll grow up wishing they were born when you were because it was so much better.
That's why Threads was so boring at the time.
but it certainly didn't help."
There have been 100s of albums better than those.
Sound of Silver
Is This it
Turn on The Bright Lights
Whatever People Say I am...
Aha Shake Heartbreak
plenty of others that are/will go down as classics for a variety of reasons whether it be immediate cultural importance or lasting legacy
you are looking was meant to be (although perhaps it has already fallen short of the mark) Homework by Daft Punk.
I think it is somewhat naive to anticipate another sgt peppers or something like that... I know it sounds hollow and churlish, but I think the way that music consumption works has changed too much for such a feat to be replicated.
is a very good album - but it's no 'classic'. Last true classic I can think of is from 1998, (Boards Of Canada - Music.....). Boxer is an outstanding album but it's no game changer.
What makes a classic?
Genre defining or redefining. New genre creation. No bad songs helps. Um, artwork...
about Homework - I guess I was thinking too much in terms of records that bring something new to the mainstream and provide a genre influence... but these don't necessarily qualify a classic album. To retain an element of ambiguity, I'll refrain from trying to justify my alternative offerings, and simply say that while neither is (in my opinion) their artists' best work, Songs For The Dead and Illinois might be considered classic albums.
Personally, and I don't expect anyone to agree, it would be Doves with The Last Broadcast
Not Dead :(
and i don't care if no-one else agrees with me.
certainly better than fucking Funeral or Is This It or something by The National etc, but pretty much no-one would argue it was a 'classic album' because it isn't bombastic or life affirming, or it wasn't heralded as a revolutionary at the time it came out. So basically any album with a tiny bit of subtlety is excluded from the canon. Which is sad.
is a worth thread of its own, that said the discussion in this thread is developing nicely..
were people talking up Nevermind or Definitely Maybe as a classic 90s album in 2001? Actually they might have been...
is the best example of an INSTANT classic as one will find.
It was pretty much an instant Top 10 Albums EVAR entry as soon as Cobain pulled the trigger.
probably not so much anything by Oasis.
It was a classic the moment it was released
I just don't think it would be as highly regarded had Kurt not kiled himself. A lot of 3 star reviews quickly turned to 5 star reviews immediately after that.
not true. The album was very well rated in reviews when it came out. I can see your point though.
even if you don't like it i reckon you have to admit it stands out from the crowd in terms of production value (i mean i think it sounds terrible but it sounds 'big' yknow) and just the sheer number of hooks involved, right off the bat is unparalleled in recent times.
that's exactly what I want back in music.
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