but sometimes I wonder if there's a bit of historical revisionism- was he really "wow! shocking and revolutionary!" in the 70s, as everyone makes out? To me it seems that his canon of work is groundbreaking, but not really any particular moment in his career.
Yeah, he's an Establishment figure now, but is that his own fault or was he just co-opted into it, given that deadening title of "national treasure".
Secondly, his creative period between 68 and 83 witnessed him produce an incredible genre-bending array of tunes. Can't help but think, like always, you're essentially acting the role of the teenage kid winding up his parents in an art museum by running round at the Leonardos and the Canaletto's going "boring" "Oh God it's just another woman in a dress with some angels!".
Having a relationship with an artists work is an entirely personal thing.
was thinking about this today. i feel like 6music-y type people, the post-9/11 indie dads, criticise other artists (usually blacks, queers, women) for doing things that they applaud david bowie for doing: his whole shtick is basically 'the worlds first shoreditch bellend': style over substance, making whatever music is trendy, dressing like a twat, "i have authored a whole new school of pretension".
But for the fact I really enjoy the songs separate from David Bowie's image or mythos that you reckon is pretentious. Also he can sing really well like in "Wild is the Wind" that shrewbie linked above.
ur weird m8
Yeah he's kind of a daytime 6 music listener's idea of eccentric isn't he
(hoping that will catch on as much as the steven fry stupid persons idea of a yada yada phrase)
Also he's as much of a cosy establishment figure as paul mccartney, also he's an embarrassment.
If this was prison you'd be shanked for that
kick his ass Seabass!
he's hardly the Inception of popular music
but sometimes I wonder if there's a bit of historical revisionism- was he really "wow! shocking and revolutionary!" in the 70s, as everyone makes out? To me it seems that his canon of work is groundbreaking, but not really any particular moment in his career.
You're judging him by today's standards and what he became to be though.
Yeah, he's an Establishment figure now, but is that his own fault or was he just co-opted into it, given that deadening title of "national treasure".
Secondly, his creative period between 68 and 83 witnessed him produce an incredible genre-bending array of tunes. Can't help but think, like always, you're essentially acting the role of the teenage kid winding up his parents in an art museum by running round at the Leonardos and the Canaletto's going "boring" "Oh God it's just another woman in a dress with some angels!".
Nah just knicked all his semi-interesting stuff off true radicals
also from black people.
have more respect for iggy pop, even in light of the car insurance ads
Yeah
Would say he's probably music's first thief.
He's no Oasis
He's shite
Neither do I really
not entirely. Does have some gr8 tunes though.
Also Sir Paul McCartney gets a pass from me for "McCartney II". Chock full of classics. He invented dubstep as well.
I thought that was Hatcha and Loefah and that in Big Apple Records in Croydon.
it was Maccah
cool story
i like when iggy pop
but i like steve jones' songs when iggy pop does them
fantastic sentences there
I think I like best when Iggy rock
although Iggy pop isn't bad either
i like when mississippi john hurt
something missing when mississippi john happy that's for sure
his best song's a cover
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cSAKlu0OlU&feature=kp
i think he's really brilliant though
read this interview the other day
http://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/15910/1/bowie-mcqueen
and then had a weird dream that involved him laughing loads
He's not for you, don't worry about it
Having a relationship with an artists work is an entirely personal thing.
was thinking about this today. i feel like 6music-y type people, the post-9/11 indie dads, criticise other artists (usually blacks, queers, women) for doing things that they applaud david bowie for doing: his whole shtick is basically 'the worlds first shoreditch bellend': style over substance, making whatever music is trendy, dressing like a twat, "i have authored a whole new school of pretension".
^good post
always struggled to pinpoint my vague disdain for Bowie but there it is
not letting me this^
but this^
'post 9/11 indie dads'
Arf! Sorry, was you saying something?
Maybe I could agree with you
But for the fact I really enjoy the songs separate from David Bowie's image or mythos that you reckon is pretentious. Also he can sing really well like in "Wild is the Wind" that shrewbie linked above.
not really arsed on bowie
but isn't taking a view on an artist based on how you perceive their fans a number one fud move? (yes, it is)
agree that post 9-11 indie dads is a good phrase though
It's a bit like The Beatles though...
...which Bowie don't you get? I mean, to dislike Oasis you just have to dislike one track (post-1994 anyway). This is... kind of different.
so many ban requests ITT
He's a bellend and an embarrassment
but he's got loads of good songs. You don't have to buy into the Rock History™ mythology nonsense to enjoy the good stuff.
See also:
Bob Dylan
The Rolling Stones
Bellend and an embarrassment?
I know he said some silly stuff in the 70s but he's hardly Morrissey when it comes to talking crap or acting like a pillock.
Nah, he's a vampire
if you havent seen it
Check out the David Bowie/Mick Jagger Dancing in the Street video for some amazing coked up gurning and dancing in a desolate wasteland.
David bowies ducking brilliant
Yeah he's released a few Pish albums but fucking hell when he's good he's fucking awesome.
Check out Low and hunky dory
The dancing in the street video with jagger is fucking brilliant
I really like loads of his stuff
Maybe you would?
If you don't, that's cool too.