Jam City wins yes?
I like them both for diffrent reasons. Logos has said himself a few times that Jam City was an influence on what he does. Yet they're both really diffrent. Jam City does more of a boogie thing at the moment and his grimy stuff was always a lot busier than Logos'. You can hear simular sort of cut up spaced out chopping field recording stabs and claters that come from early grime, Jeresy and Baltimore club music, ballroom and all sorts. Logos goes a lot darker and brings more grime, eski, jungle, d'n'b, etc influence while Jam City tends to be a bit lighter bringing disco, boogie, funk, soul, R&B poppier stuff in general and house stuff like Sound Stream into focus more. They both do it in a killer UK soundsystem dance floor kind of way thats awsome though. You can really tell one is Night Slugs and one is more Keysound. Right now I lean towards Logos as my favourite but they're both so damn good. Jam City is prob gonna have the biggest influence mind. You can already hear a lot of people trying to do the vibe of his last record: Miss Modular, Her Records, Neana, etc. Logos does have some people following a little but maybe not so blatently.
Also has a real Jam City vibe to some of his stuff. But with some kind of shiny plastic elastic bassline influence in there for that stuff at least, other stuff is just stright up retro house with an epic shine up job.
But you know, they all exchange ideas, vibe off each other alot so its bound to be the case. L-Vis 1990 is kind of an influence spunge and did a killer Jam City-esq EP recently. Bok Bok even said on twitter the other day that he is seeing a lot of people influenced by Jam City sending him demos this year, so the influence is coming thru strong there.
But Logos reminds me of other things; Photek, Metalheadz, Jam City itself. Classical Curves is way more out there. When I first heard it it really reminded me of nothing else. Still doesn't really and is absolutely thrilling for that reason.
Jersey Club, Baltimore, Ballroom, etc? They all have a flavoure in there Jam City has taken alongside the UK and obvious boogie, disco, etc influences. He does twist them up really well though into a new form that seems newer somehow even if its basicly disco, funk, boogie cutups in dance again but in a diffrent way. I think Logos does as well, not as many obvious influences and maybe Logos is more focused at the moment, Jam City has covered a load more ground while still sounding like Jam City. But yeah he defo came first with his own sound really. Logos was only a little behind Jam City his first proper 12" on this current sound wasn't far behind Jam City's early stuff. So they pretty much came up together in a lot of ways. They're both ace though yeah, depends on my mood really. Jam City's album took me a while to get on board with mind because I'd heard so many boogie, disco cut ups before and been turned off wearas I never gave a fuck about d'n'b so the infleunce was fresh to me there and loved grime, eski, devil mixes so was well on board with Logos right from the off.
Because why not, why stop now... I do think Jam City is going to be one of those people from this generation of producers like Burial, Flying Lotus, Actress, etc, prob some others who are some of the big names that last in peoples minds even outside of the dance nerds and get picked up again in 20/30 years time again with p4k best new re-issue type stuff haha.
One thing to add. Logos would totally kick Jam City's ass in a fight,
I dunno, Jam City has cybanetic robo hands: http://publicsf.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/main_image_3339.jpeg yet Logos will lurk in the shadows down a back street and jump on you: http://www.sonicrouter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/logos_640.jpg so yeah robo hands wins surley?
you ALWAYS used to mention Joker
His album on 4AD lost a load of steam after a massive run of really good tracks and he's not really got back on form proper for years now. He sort of made a turn back to some really good fun stuff again last year though with his Sega influenced mini album thing: https://soundcloud.com/jokerkapsize/sets/sega-joker-drive its a load of fun.
Then he got really dull until last year when he dropped the free sega dl thing, His proper 12"s have still been pretty shit though. So yeah four years is a long time to be shit so he aint on that level anymore for now.
is it actually full-on recreations of sega soundtrack(s)? my memory's hazy but i was never sure if people praising it were maybe under the false impression it was largely original material. (still good obviously)
I can't remember the sega music that well I had a SNES from that era. It was just loads of fun/pretty refreshing which was a big suprise after the clunky 12"s he'd been putting out.
But yeah he kind of went shit for longer than he was good for a while there so has some badass tracks to be making to get back into that killer legend status haha.
If his album went really well he'd prob be up there tho, all those other people are just bigger in general, normal non dance nerd humans wont of heard of Joker but prob will have the others or prob will do soon enough. Might happen with Kudeo one day but I dunno, he has a killer history from Vex'd to Jamie Vex'd to Kuedo and whatever he does next but I dont think he'll have the profile of ya Burial's etc for some reason.
Like that last Benga record, just went to play pop music to a bigger crowd, and couldn't be arsed to take his sound in any new directions. By now, it would seem pretty far fetched for him to put anything out on a more left field label like Hyperdub.
The Sega stuff was fun, but he'll need a lot more than that to re energise his career. I just see him doing what he did before but maybe with more emphasis on the grime.
Shame really, but there are still those amazing 12"s before, they prob aint going to make him into a mega cult down the line crossover kind of guy like the others I mentioned hopefuly will tho, just the nerds haha.
A load of people got caught off guard by dubstep going big and shit in 2010 everyone jumping ship and all that instead of sticking to what they where doing but with eyes on them they kind of panicked and made shit stuff and tryed to distance themsleves from it instead of just being them, got scared that dubstep was a dirty word even if they where shit hot at it.
Whereas you look at someone like Mala who just kept on doing what Mala does, and he's pretty much come out with that kind of legendary status even if he hasn't quite got the crossover appeal.
I mean Rustie and Hudson Mohawke are doing big pop/hip-hop production now for US people like loads of people thought Joker would be but he kind of bottled it somehow. But yeah Mala is always just going to do Mala.
nah the guy who made this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84dsfBiwo60
I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mOIXdC4rgA
Legend of the scene, started DMZ with Coki and Loefah, pretty much the first dubstep producers or near enough. Dubstep is Mala really. He's really low key though just been doing the same thing since he started. Dubstep comes and goes goes all aggresive and pop Mala still does the original sound because he's shit hot at it. You can't sign onto dubstep forum if you don't know Mala its one of the sign up questions, or use to be haha.