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Interesting article on The Quietus:
The problem with Buzzfeed isn't that it lists stuff, it's that it makes pages that are simply gifs with a one line half-amusing comment, often taking an idea someone's done elsewhere and redoing it without any sort of acknowledgement.
This is a long list with a lot of content behind each and no animated GIFs.
It's from The Quietus. Nobody reads all the words.
Yeah, you totally won this.
co-owned was a part of my social life for the five years or so that it was open. I'd go there at least once a week. It was the perfect indie venue and I agree with his "stop talking" thing especially at small venues like The Lexington. The problem with The Luminaire was perhaps a combo of where it was and the fact that they'd book such esoteric bands that on occasions there were about ten people there for the main act. That wasn't a problem for me as I'd love the bands that played there. I not in the music business at all but it seems that it's about promoting the bands that play there properly otherwise bands and venues will fold. The Luminaire and brilliant bands like Shrag are perfect examples of that.
They spent ages pointing out it was no further north than Camden, etc. Unfortunately there just aren't as many buses in Kilburn as Camden and Kilburn was (certainly at the start of its tenure) definitely less safe seeming.
Also, West London was (is?) a cultural vacuum so even if it's as far north as Camden it's not nearly as close to the east end, where most other venues were. I did a period of regularly attending two gigs a night (back when DIY gigs could afford to be free in east London particularly) and it was a fucker to hike over to the Luminaire for one of them.
website pointing out that's it's not far from Central London. I luckily had an easy bus ride from venue to home for that venue. If I lived anywhere but NW London it would have been a pain.
then they may have been able to continue as a viable concern.
Shame really. I went there loads and we put on a fair few gigs there that were great.
And "...they can demand to speak to your male partner on the phone because you're a woman. All these happened to me, or those close to me."
Those close to me, it says.
Although it kind of misses the biggest issue (London?) has, which is a lack of promoter controlled venues. So Bugbear are renting out the back room of The Dublin Castle, and I presume that means they're either paying a large amount of rent to the pub or the pub waives the rent in return for the extra beer they sell to the audience of the gig.
Either way, it means what's spent behind the bar isn't making its way back to the band as any sort of reward. If the venue is the promoter and they happen to give a shit about good music then you tend to see bands actually paid for gigs, which is nice. It's rare, though.
Remember when Monto were in charge of the Water Rats?
Corsica Studios (ish)?
These are the only ones I can think of off hand, but they both do a pretty good job.
Places like the Shacklewell Arms are.
I don't really think it has anything to do with whether they are promoter-controlled or not - you get good venue owners and bad, and good promoters and bad.
My issue is that even as a 'good' promoter, if you can only rely on the takings at the door to pay the band back then you either have to charge a lot of money or you pay out of your own pocket or you always have to put on very popular bands/lineups.
Of course bad promoters will always be bad. However, I think having a promoter who can call on the profits from the bar is key in making live music work and be affordable.
that all bands should be paid in all circumstances, which I don't believe is (or should be) the case.
are being used to run the venue, i.e. pay for rent, bar & door staff and general overheads?
"Small venues need money, and lots of it"
and good to see an article fighting from that corner