Just heard this through the P4K tracks of 2013 list.
It's oddly captivating. Tell me more...
I think Sophie is an anonymous person, prob a dude from the live reports. Hasn't released much bar Bipp and Nothing More To Say. Bipp is by far the best. The other is pretty much a bait stright up house thing, kind of boring but with a nice pop sheen I guess if you like that kind of thing. There was a soundcloud kocking about some time ago with a load of Sophie tracks knocking about on it that are now starting to come about but I can't for the life of me remember where it is or if its still active.
One to look out for in the coming years. Nothing really sounds like Bipp. Its got the wonk of early Rustie and a kind of poppy take on basslin along with it but again sounds like none of that. Bipp doesn't even have much of a drum beat, its all bass and fucked up synths with the vocal hook. So it kind of relates to the current new wave of grime thats knocking around from people like Logos, Rabit, Emma, Murlo, etc. But again those lot aint anywhere near as poppy, they just have that floating in bass dance floor fucked up thing going on.
The track took me a while to get into, mainly because of the vocal. But I just kept coming back to it and now kind of love it.
Sophie did a bizarre interview with Skream and Benga in the summer; you can hear it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01gq9kv
Skip to 5:43.
Did so a few days ago and have spent the last few days in an Adam Harper bender. Slowly working my way through his Rouge's Foam stuff which is incredibly well written: all wheat, no chaff and pretty funny. It's nice to see the level of detail as well in his electric beats articles as well. He goes in!
Cheers for the link.
Numbers (label Bipp was released on) has had quite a strong year in general. The Rustie single was pretty good; you might like it seeing that you enjoyed Bipp:
Triadzz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aUl3mVId3w
Slasherr - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stT4VAnVfY4
I also enjoyed the Deadboy EP on Numbers this year, but it's not quite as similar. Worth checking out, though: https://soundcloud.com/nmbrs/sets/deadboy-blaquewerk
If you like that you might also like from this year:
Murlo - Last Dance
Kingdom w/ Kelela - Bank Head
E.M.M.A. - Dream Phone VIP
Maybe. They haven't got that mega poppy vocal thing going on but that might be a plus to some, since the vocal is a bit desisive/annoying to some.
The sample really reminds me of the one in Bipp. Also a massive tune though.
I hadn't heard it like that before. Will never unhear.
XE3 Reminds me of it too: https://soundcloud.com/goon-club-allstars/xe3-mssingno
Its like a cloud rap/grime hybrid version of it.
With Bipp at #7.
BUT WHICH IS BETTER?
I may have said so before... http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4436615
Those pitch-shifted vocals just kill me. The fact that ELLE is a perfect contrast makes it even better.
I finished writing SOPHIE up as a tip for 2014 only last night. I'm pretty convinced there's plenty more gems to come.
can't get enough of either. dance tracks of the year for sure - as jimi said the former is very much of a formula, whereas the latter is insane and otherworldly and brilliant
Saw him do a live set at the VU last month, was 45 mins of unbridled joy. Really looking forward to hearing what he does next.
with crisper production, of course.
the spirit of Livin' Joy lives on (joyously)
This track is well twisted, no drums, just odd sliding shifting bass tones and synths, odd rhythms that sound like synths being suspended by an elastic band. Cheesey pitched vocals and a hook and one little synth hook in the middle for a few seconds are about the only things that sound even close to a mid-90s dance track. Soudns more like someone melted the drums off a bassline remix of a Timberland record and got a kid to sing something on top.
already one of my fav songs from 2013
Plenty of oddness on youtube like this:
There is a track about called Ooh which is really simular to Bipp but a little more stright up. Looks to be touring loads if you look at the website too, so yeah check it.
Word is there are a few more singles planned on Numbers and rumours of something for Werk Discs but who knows could be bollocks.
Kind of suprised its getting a lot of love I thought it'd be way more divisive than it has been. It either got slated to death or loved all at once earlier in the year when it came out, no middle ground. Amazing what a feature in pitchfork can do hay.
but the vocal is just so horrible
hopefuly a better version will pop up soon enough.
Sounds pretty brilliant, bar the obvious quality of the sound. Proper mad fun stuff.
so i doubt there'll be a better version unfortunately. but yeah, was about to turn it off with all the popping, but ended up listening to the whole thing anyway cos it was so damn good.
tunes sounds wicked though.
The PC Music lot, I've only really just dug in, but I think fuckyeahdubstep knows a load more about it if he wants to post more.
makes my brain hurt a bit yet still somehow really inventive, mega modern and enjoyable/annoying.
You lot are going to hate this lol
anything along similar lines with that cheesy/romantic vibe? Have already downloaded everything off the PC Music soundcloud :)
yeah just dig around the pc music soundcloud page. it's the best music you can get at the moment, the "pitch shifted ukg revival with j-pop aesthetic" sound. think it is all produced by A.G. Cook (who often shares bills w/ Sophie), just dig around on the PC Music soundcloud
this mix is the best introduction
can't really stop listening to the new GFOTY mix out today either, masterpiece tbh
Starts at 34 mins: https://soundcloud.com/luckyme/rinse32
I'm constantly surprised at how catchy I find all this. It feels like I should want to find this weird maximalism vomit inducing but I don't. It's jut great.
Great start :D
Already fucking incredible, just what I need for a Friday morning.
Did anyone ever give that Laszlo album a go? Found this track through a Guido mix a couple of years ago, sort of reminds me of this, not as pitch-shifty but just crazy all over the place:
pc music are really on to something. seems like a.g. cook has this really wicked and coherent vision for the label's sound and look, sorta like bok bok and night slugs. if he hasn't produced half the stuff under a million names then he's definitely mixed them
saw a.g. cook at the eclair fifi valentines night (w/ sophie) at plastics. absolutely stupid fun. no mixing, just ridiculous tune after ridiculous tune - tempo jumping all over the shop. saw what i assume must have been hannah diamond wearing that amazing pink north face jacket in the crowd too and nearly died it looked so dope
but yeah this gfoty mix is amazing. second track is :')
I have no idea if I like it or not, sometimes it hurts my brain sometimes its fun as shit. I have no idea which reaction I'm going to get when I put on a track. Its massively prefrable to being bored right away by some fuck doing classic guitar and gabbling about his day and death for an hour. But fuck me its a comfronting listen. Its like being beaten to death by your little sisters friends. Sometimes I wonder if I should even listen to it becuase I'm not 9. But then the sounds and inventive maddness of it all is so insanly good and like nothing else.
good stuff :D
I was hoping for another uptempo 'stormer'.
Some really crazy stuff on this. I started with the GFOTY tape, and wasn't all that into it, but it turns out that's some of their weakest (or at least hit and miss) stuff.
guys does anyone know what a.g. cook mix the song "unlimited wifi" is on. jacques greene tweeted it like 2 days ago and it's been stuck in my head and i can find it and... fuck
starts about 6 minutes.
I don't think I've ever been so impatient for a track to be released. When I was at Field Day I wrote loads of incoherent notes on my phone - the most decipherable bit the next morning was 'SOPHIE - LEMONADE SONG??? WOW!'
Not sure if I've heard that one, but it's released next week, so we won't have to wait long :D
not sure I've heard Hard either. I have just listened to Lemonade about 20 times though :)
I still don't really know why either... :S
which has every chance of being amazing.
Sophie / Danny L Harle / Soda Plains on Rinse
just put it on, not up to the Sophie bit yet
so many amazing songs
the 'maybe maybe' song at 1hr15 <3
my reply was longer, also included:
'hard' at 1hr23 <3
the kero kero bonito song at 1hr34 <3
fuck it all.
do you know what the track on before Kero Kero Bonito is about playing computer games and being a girl? sounds gfoty-esque
oh wait it is the song you said i think
awww this band is amazing
Out on Monday on Numbers...
Think he could/should release a pretty mindblowing EP/LP, but also, think there will be a pretty narrow window of opportunity before this stuff makes its mark and goes a bit stale.
Basically, drop lots of material please, Mr. Sophie.
the sophie / a.g. cook energy drink / all time banger has finally launched
i love this whole thing so much :)
I remember Sophie playing this out at Field Day, can't wait for a proper release! Not hard to imagine this one finding a wider audience as well
QT's (full version of heyqt at ~5.10, the whole 10m set is basically just this song and the build up to it, although whatever plays at the beginning sounds really great):
QT is so good, such a good art project
did Sophie do Boiler Room in drag or something? such an artist
full sophie set with visuals
(Starts at 23 mins)...
Only just found this today! Very happy (see below post)
and actually just sent a drag queen on to do their set.
person who did the boiler room set: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bvs2UlnCQAAHs08.jpg
apparently he was working on the door as a bouncer
watching the set linked to above and occasionally he comes on stage and fiddles around with equipment
do you reckon the song at 1hr38 in the most recent dis magazine/rinse show is a qt song as well? can't stop listening to it.
listen to the song that starts at 14:40 on the soundcloud page. completely deranged
or if he's celebrating that sort of thing.
it does sound like a really judgemental version of something like that #selfie song.
thought you might want to know that that song @14.14 is a remix of a gfoty song. the original is nowhere near as good, but if you're interested you can get it from here (at the bottom): http://gamsonite.tumblr.com/downloads
what's the track he plays near the beginning, just after Nothing More to Say? The main vocal hook goes "if that's what you wanna do"
the one that goes "Get to the club at 2am" is awesome too. Hope they get released
That's kind of a shame...
it's gonna become an ubiquitous freshers anthem
still, the song's 100% amazing
that just worked considerably better as a 30 second preview.
Still aight though.
Especially on RA. To be expected I guess.
4.5/5. People are not happy.
When pc music gets it right, for me, it's so saccharine and sweet that it causes an uncomfortable reaction akin to noise music. That you can produce that by overloading on saccharine sunshine and pop, rather than removing all traces, seems relatively uncovered ground.
This sounds awesome as a drop in a weirder set, but isolated, is just a half decent out-dated pop song with chip munking being the only thing really added. Seems like a diluted version of their own formula.
but I've come round to it. I get that discomfited sensation, now, from the way it's not just brazenly, nakedly pleasurable but completely overt and obsequious (the artwork, the energy elixir) in the way it seduces and dazzles and fucks with us in that corporate way.
the other thing I like is that you can't really 'justify' it. it's possible to appreciate songs like Hard and Bipp (as well as the best A. G. Cook and GFOTY tracks) on artier grounds - the pristine, euphoric, cling-wrap singing over disembodied and ugly-sounding beats - and reading interviews it's not hard to see that that's one angle they're coming from. the QT track's only winks are the jarring transitions and beats, I think, but for me it does the trick.
all that aside I basically like the track and would probably mildly enjoy it without the theoretical aspect.
-the elements are all there, after all-but they refused to sit long enough for that to happen.
i don't think you have to justify much, it's a decent catchy pop song. the kind of thing i'd enjoy in passing on the radio, but not attentively, or with any real interest. i'd rather hear something totally vile that pushes buttons than this, which only seems to have ruffled feathers with it's supposed mediocrity, but that's just me i guess.
here's my blueprint for what's missing: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1j62wbERVgI
you should get this remix out there.
you'll be signed to pc music by the end of the week.
this is pretty rad tho!
Any info on them?
Hard, eg, is clearly GFOTY and I think the opening track on the DiSown radio mix, which is my favourite to come out of the whole thing. Hannah Diamond is 'the face' of PC Music and has a load of A. G. Cook-produced tracks that you can find on Soundcloud. She's involved in the visual design as well.
The person they're calling QT, I'm not sure. I met her once and have a feeling she was American. Which would mean she's either taking elocution lessons or more likely isn't actually singing. Someone told me she's a performance artist from New York. She sometimes dances at SOPHIE's sets, some amazing mix of grime and kawaii, so I suspect there'll be plenty more on that front.
i heard that someone else heard that it's been said that there's a rumour etc that QT is SOPHIE's girlfriend and does the vocals on his tracks sometimes
I can't tell to what extent you're taking the piss but I also heard whispers that that rumour is definitely rumoured to be true.
popular music website 'i love music', subset of ilxor.com, is currently getting in a RIGHT old twist about it. apparently this movement is contemptuous of Pop (rather than joyously deconstructive) and shouldn't be encouraged because it's anti-Pop, and because its practitioners are hardly likely to participate in the mainstream Pop discussion, or achieve global stardom
what kind of warped mindset you'd need to espouse such deranged elitism I can scarcely imagine
reading interviews it's not hard to see that people like A. G. Cook at least *want* to be involved in the pop discussion, and certainly have a more complex and nuanced view of things than most of their detractors. eg
"AGC: What interests me about pop music and commercial imagery in the first place is that it has the potential to be overwhelming, extravagant and banal all at the same time. Not only that, but mixing "high culture" with pop culture has lost its radical edge to the extent that it's more or less mainstream. Challenging something's commercial nature is a commercial tactic in itself, and authenticity is a tricky currency that is often swayed by branding and advertising. I have nothing against this, and many people respond to this kind of stuff in a sophisticated way. Though it means that there is room for a subtler and possibly more compelling way of engaging with these ideas, where shock value and direct irony is replaced with ambiguity and uncanniness. My work's constant use of instantly gratifying elements such as kitsch imagery, catchy hooks, synthetic colours and fun sound effects feels inevitable, it's almost a compulsion rather than a choice. Saying that, I try to be thoughtful as to how and why I'm using these things, and I think my over-the-top use of structure and layout is a result of this. It's also what makes the work feel ambiguous. It's sort of communicating something, but there's all this extra stuff going on. By the time you try to figure out what it's about, you've entered a sort of immersive world of ideas and references. Making it difficult to navigate not only adds to this effect, but it's also a way of giving it the overwhelming, extravagant and banal potential of commercial work. It's a particular style of craftsmanship that I could perhaps afford to ignore if I ever ended up doing large-scale commercial work, but it's definitely a way of making a bigger impact with limited resources, like a virtuoso playing on a simple instrument or an outsider artist obsessively using a tiny object to make an enormous piece. Maybe it gives my work a kind of manic individual quality, despite the fact that it's also basically a slick collage."
but that's far and away the most erudite and illuminating self-analysis I've heard a new musician espouse in recent memory.
that's a nice li'l segment
Is that it's actually still way too weird and OTT to be played on the radio/get any kind of 'mainstream' uplift. That's what makes it so compelling - yes it sounds like a pop song (what's wrong with pop music?) but one that's just been completely maxed out. As A.G. Cook hints at in that quote above, it's amazing how bland a big, slickly produced pop anthem can actually be - can't really accuse any PC Music stuff of being in any way 'bland'.
and not the vocal production even, just the fact that a lot of the vocalists are plainly (i assume deliberately) not much good at all
The music like what I imagine they play in the background on CBBC these days, or at best an idea that Rustie forgot to do anything with.
Damn catchy though and it works like a dream in a weirder set. As a fan, I got my hopes up for the best pop song ever. Which it isn't, really.
GFOTY - Bobby.
Tough competition though.
ignoring stuff that only exists in a.g. cook mixes and stuff like that, probably Broken Flowers
The weirder shit works better in mixes/sets (which I kind of think is what's causing most of the frothing at the mouth about QT, it just doesn't make as much sense if you just listen to it in isolation without knowledge of it elsewhere).
new PC Music release today
i think everyone into this stuff would like basically everything on the japanese label 'maltine records'
best stuff i've found so far is the Pa's Lam System stuff. their likes are worth trawling through as well
then this Ana Caprix EP is well worth a listen
Think I was put off cos I was aware of GFOTY and thought the whole 'scene' was all posh tumblr/vice magazine shit, but AG Cook is clearly a genius and refreshingly serious minded and open to discussing his work. Most of the music is just brilliant.
another new tune
it's amazing !
really liking this one
makes me feel a bit sick if i listen to to much tho
but I've been listening to PC/related stuff solidly for the last fortnight and haven't grown bored yet.
now on completely unrelated reviews:
In other news - Sophie Boiler Room is here in full!
article in the guardian:
#thugclive also has done a very badly writted and very badly researched peice for vice:
i like the thugclive piece
it's badly researched but it's like the only pc music 'thinkpiece' i've read that doesn't just rewrite the rougesfoam article http://rougesfoam.blogspot.co.uk/2014_02_01_archive.html from earlier in the year
i think it's good if it gets bigger, i guess partly cos a bigger budget means the conceptual side of it can become more and more audacious and also because i'd like to hear more of this kind of thing on nights out. i don't think they will get that big (mainly cos bbc radio 1 is too busy endlessly trying to bring back 'guitar music') but could you imagine, like, a PC Music Revue at the Brits or something :)
(I seem to be one of the few people on here to think he's mostly a frustrating and pretty rubbish writer), aside from a few obvious errors and stupid generalisations, it's ok. also seems to be a bit rich for him to complain about irrelevant, dated culural references when about 90% of writing his writing seems to consists of that.
it would be pretty hilarious if pc music got massive though.
oh this is the real link www.vice.com/en_uk/read/pc-music-are-they-really-the-worst-thing-to-ever-happen-to-dance-music-clive-martin-017
this looks good
if you are in or near london
Seems to be the most in depth one I've read so far.
I like what they say about GFOTY:
"In any case, GFOTY is certainly responsible for some of the most maniacally catchy music in the PC Music catalog. Consider this chorus from the nine-minute "Secret Mix": "If your friend's your lover/ Let your friend be your lover/ 'Cause if your friend's your lover/ Then your looooove's/ Undercover". (Repeat ad nauseam, almost literally.)
Talk about high-low vertigo: how about that insistent, high-pitched chirping ("Wh-wh-what's your name? I l-l-l-like your smile") over a snatch of string quartet? And if you want punk, there's the relentless "Don't Wanna / Let's Do It", which is basically a sample of a single synth note and the phrase "I don't wanna do it" being marched up and down a sampling keyboard. It sounds like Eskibeat as performed by the world's most petulant teenager; it might be the most annoying thing you have heard all year, and, like a scab, it is almost impossible to stop returning to it."
physically can't listen to it all the way through
it sounds how i imagine having a woodpecker chip away at your brain must feel
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01gq9kv (starts @ 5.45).
new joseph marinetti ep on lucky me is good for this kind of thing
anyone got a rip of the halloween pc music thing
video of last 20mins:
he's recorded a 'bunch of stuff' with Sophie including a track with Nicki Minaj and Madonna.
Sounds like a pretty toxic combination, but who knows.
Been leaning towards hate for a while now.
but obvs made some pretty epic and era defining pop music.
It's been ages since he's done anything decent, so that tips the scale for me. Mad Decent still pick up on the odd interesting 'world' music trend but it all feels a bit hackneyed at this stage.
Regardless of all the above, these kind of collabos are always horrid anyway.
I think this is the one, it was circulating a few weeks ago anyway. Dunno if it's a fake or not. Sounds like Madoanna doing a SOPHIE impression.
I present to you... 'Bitch, I'm Madonna'
pretty much in love with her now
response in the comments is as expected:
My favourite: Anybody listening to this over 14 should definitely go to a psychiatrist immediately.
and the psychiatrist high fived me then sent me on my way
3. A. G. Cook
5. Danny L Harle
Do we think there are ever gonna be any full albums? I don't think it's on the cards - might have to get some blank CDs for car listening.
can't stop laughing at the video
Anyone else going to the show with Spinee and Seiho and that on Sunday at Birthdays?
Yelle - MOTEUR ACTION (SOPHIE & A. G. Cook remix)
PC Music Volume 1:
01 Hannah Diamond: "Every Night"
02 A. G. Cook: "Beautiful"
03 GFOTY: "USA"
04 Danny L Harle: "In My Dreams"
05 Hannah Diamond: "Attachment"
06 Lipgloss Twins: "Wannabe"
07 Thy Slaugher: "Bronze"
08 A. G. Cook: "Keri Baby"
09 GFOTY: "Don't Wanna/Let's Do It"
10 easyFun: "Laplander"
On Spotify now.
Songs from his set need to me a much bigger, more permanent part of my life.
So, IS is satire??
gfoty boiler room is up on youtube and i think some others as well
so far she's played timber, agadoo and a novelty song about andy cole
"I never said I could actually DJ"
sounds like something from the Frozen soundtrack :D
just got this song in my head constantly at the moment
TO THE EDGE OF THE SKY
WE'LL BE SHINING
YOU AND ME
this will be fun/mad
I like charli xcx and think pc music's cool (although hannah diamond's the best by miles) so that'll be good i reckon.
new SOPHIE tune that he produced on the new Namie Amuro album that you can hear here:
it is one of the tracks from his boiler room set and BANGS
maybe the context is important, but as far as i can tell she made a slightly poor-taste joke about a band who were covering a bombay bicycle club song, but they were black, so the joke was that the band was actually BBC in blackface. Right?
Dunno i'm white so i don't get to decide what is and isn't racist i suppose but that seems like really really mild stuff to me, unless i'm missing some context as i said. The record label's kinda thrown her under the bus though so i guess that's her done.
so it got a lot of exposure. And needless to say, a lot of people are very happy to have a reason to be angry about PC Music.
and it just seems like they're happy that they've finally been proven right that PC Music is terrible
but as i say i'm not the one that gets to decide that. Just seems to me like a joke that plays around with cultural appropriation in maybe a slightly less obvious way than you'd expect from gfoty. Can see how people would misunderstand but surprised at the reaction, and especially that the label have distanced themselves so firmly from her.
i'm sure she'll still be there on Saturday night.
the band wasnt actually covering BBC, but yeah she was joking that they might have been BBC in blackface, because BBC rip off afrobeat a tiny bit, which is a very stupid thing to say even if she just meant to take the piss out of BBC
I think it's fair for PC Music to issue that statement though as there's been shitloads of heat on Twitter around them with people going 'TOLD YOU SO'.
unless they're wilfully misunderstanding what she was saying
very happy to have to explained to me like an idiot if i'm missing something
i haven't heard the band so fair enough on that stuff. Water down my comment above^ about it being 'fine' then but still a bit ott maybe.
from what I picked up from The Quietus they'd just sent a text making a joke at the expense of Bombay Bicycle Club.
trying to group it with the Ten Walls stuff seems a bit weird.
but yeah the first time i saw what she'd said was in this pitchfork article which posts a letter some producer made http://pitchfork.com/news/59874-producer-lotic-and-pc-music-slam-racist-comments-made-by-pc-musics-gfoty/
which i thought was pretty bad and rambling and obviously agenda-fuelled, which made me suspicious.
but he obviously fucking hates PC Music
yeah it's pretty racist and othering to call some black people 'blackface' or whatever.
the bombay bicycle club gag is quite good but needs to be phrased better.
tbh when you're whole 'thing' is being problematic this kind of stuff is gonna happen eventually, think it is more warranted in this case as she has precedent for making weird othering comments (e.g. 'i'm in the white odd future') and is literally a millionaire.
lotic comment is stupid but only in the same ways that's lots of other #tumblrpolitics is (e.g. the groupings of 'straight white' with 'queer poc' form a kind of totalising generalisation which only serves to reinforce stale identities; good to try and think about how he knows someone is 'queer'? etc). i've not really got an issue with it though if he is calling out someone out for racism and he's clearly in a mood anyway. i also don't think that everything has to be a 100% perfect piece of criticism.
mostly feel that vice, the quietus, pitchfork and so on can fuck off. if you are in an influential media it's kind of your responsibility to choose who you amplify.
his comment itself is sexist in taking any agency away from gfoty, hannah diamond, spinee etc in the making of their art, by calling them 'avatars'. It's not a worthwhile piece at all imo.
people just picked it up and ran from there I guess
given that you all agree with me, and that i've just had a day of being ripped to shreds on the internet by americans
it's pretty funny rly
actually does remind me of the "white Odd Future", in how that was hot for a minute but got real stale real quickly.
Willing for them to prove me wrong, but I think their cards are already laid out, their influence (which will be considerable) already out there, and all that's left is for some peeps to pose and soak up the limelight.
Still, like some of the cats from OFWGTA have calved out decent careers for themselves, Sophie and maybe one or two of the others might have something in the tank.
lol, i'm not really sure any of this music aims at having longevity
i reckon they'll push it for a considerable while longer. but i'm not sure there's any point.
With 4 new tracks:
08. Just Like We Never Said Goodbye
AVAILABLE IN PINK OR GREEN.