So here's their songs list to start with:
*ubiquitous, charming songs by well-groomed, well-meaning men whose subject matter and rhythms won’t put anyone on the spot.*
Think i may have missed something here.
It shouldn't even be considered just because of the lyrics.
P4K seemed to have forgotten how much they were gushing over Crash of Rhinos, specifically 'Opener', earlier this year.
Glad to see Bill Callahan there. Weird Sky Ferreira choice though, and IMO Drake shouldn't have been anywhere near the top. New Slaves would have been a great choice for #1 spot.
no complaints now :)
I Blame Myself is easily the best thing she's done. From the brutal honesty of the lyrics to the phenomenal Paisley Park vibe. It's a missing Prince classic unearthed and unleashed by a spark with an eye on an inferno.
Boys reminds me of Bloc Party which is actually kind of sick, but it has some real gritty, streety, industrial vibes. Love it.
but Black Skinhead over New Slaves, surely?
Would've been a good pick for the #1 spot
I just think the message of New Slaves rarely gets aired in the mainstream by such a famous (if divisive) cultural figure, which edges it for me. Also I love the disparity between the two different halves of the song.
but it still seems weird Black Skinhead was omitted completely, considering its currently being used on every advert ever in the same way 'POWER' was
thank you very much duder
could be the best track on the album but it's very very far from being the song of the year.
has her voice always been this grating?
She sounds especially nasal and pronounced accent on that track which is a bit unusual from how she normally sings / raps.
Wouldve been a good song with competent vocals
still have the first 2 records eh?
There's only one vaguely bad track on it, the 4th one, Warriors maybe? Other than that it's all exactly what I want from her.
blur - charmless man
I knew it sounded vaguely familiar but couldn't pinpoint it. If you've ruined that song for me CrispinAlexander I'll be looking for you!
I much prefer You & Me to Latch though.
Will never agree with Blurred Lines despite it's success. Surprised at no Burial after they BNT'd Come down to us.
It's got a load of my favourite songs of the year plus some stuff I haven't heard but will check out.
I thought for the Youth Lagoon tune I would have preferred Dropla.
Yeah Yeah Yeah's Sacrilege could have made the grade as well as QOTSA's If I Had a Tail, Matthew E White's Big Love and moan and moan etc.
If someone has made 2 or 3 of the best songs of the year then they deserve to be on the list that many times - fair do's. Although I kind of wish they had dropped a second or third choice by one or two artists in order to sneak an additional choice on the list for me to check out that I might not have come across.
There's a lot of good looking stuff on there though, although a lot of it seems to have been culled from the same three or four albums. Their list is always worth a look; the sheer amount of music they review means there are usually a few gems on there.
Also not enough one shot tracks. A lot of the stuff is just the track which they liked the most from their 50 best albums.
maybe they'll retain it for the albums, who knows
but didn't do anything interesting with it. it could have looked wonderful.
10 entries per page. Artwork, title, blurb for each entry.
but they've also stepped up the general design of their site, notably the articles. they should have done the lists in that format.
just listened to the #1 and fuck me if it isn't the most boring song I've heard all week.
it just lost that title to the #5 song.
i dunno why they don't have anything from acid rap on there
Chain Smoker is on there at #66. Surprised there wasn't more tracks from it and/or anything higher up the list, mind.
I like how they linked to the Soundcloud for Blurred Lines. Like "hey cool song but wow video ain't very cool."
But honestly, it's a good signifier of 2013. It shows what was being blurted out in shops as you walked past, what twats played in their cars really loud, and also what you tended to hit on iTunes. Obviously the songs are pretty good as well but it's also just got that zeitgeist currency.
I don't know, it just makes me feel like being alive in 2013 isn't entirely a shit thing.
links to a YouTube clip that was uploaded in November 2011.
the Young Galaxy song is alright too, if a bit long.
Pitchfork themselves covered it when it was originally released:
'Any track that was released in 2013 or had its greatest impact in the U.S. this year was eligible.'
Which is a bit wooly, but guess that's their get-out clause.
when it was first released as a single. Hopefully more people cottoned on to it this year when it was spearheading the IDIB label comp. Fairly sure more people heard it for the first time time this year than in 2011 anyway.
Not below #75.
does "below" mean "higher"? And if so, does "higher" mean "up" or "down"?
Generic list doesn't bode we'll for their top albums
What's wrong with Push the Sky Away? I thought it was great.
it deserved more than an honorable mention.
honourable mentions are, I'm wondering what they consider so much better... (and if they'll ever climb off Kanye's D).
Be very interested to see what's better then them two.
it's an editorial decision
One of the top ten records of the year on any sane list
is the point-size getting bigger with every feature?
By the time they reach the actual No.1 album of the year, it'll be just one word taking up the whole screen
(and I'm not talking Gwen Stefani)
There wasn't one song that was better this year - let alone 59 of 'em
but maybe that's semantics. Either way Apocalypse is a criminally underappreciated album.
But it sounds soo similar to Peso by A$AP Rocky
Has it really been a whole year since I last got indignant over the 'Honourable Mentions' list?
My how time flies.
He's really really theatrical and emo, sort of like a rnb/hiphop Gavin Rossdale. Everything about him annoys me except his wardrobe, which admittedly, is pretty tidy.
Whilst we're comparing contemporary artists with 90's landfill, Disclosure are basically Artful Dodger right?
Has an album that wasn't BNM ever made it that high on a Pitchfork end of year list before?
BNM albums in 2013 which didn't even get on the Honourable Mentions list:
The Field - 8.7
Youth Lagoon - 8.7
Baths - 8.6
Iceage - 8.6
Julianna Barwick - 8.5
These New Puritans - 8.4
Dirty Beaches - 8.4
Foxygen - 8.4
Charli XCX - 8.3
After Dark 2 - 8.3
but got a 8.1 and was gushed about at the time too.
Surprised they dropped The Field
it's probably victory enough they reviewed it at all.
but it's still weird how they abandon bands
looking at the staff lists, it was only Ian Cohen who cared about them, who is basically the only person I still read p4k for
Wouldn't expect to see CoR anywhere near any P4K list to be honest. Definitely surprised about the lack of Baths/The Field/Julianna Barwick though.
Overall, meh. Struggling to care about any lists this year.
having read the individual lists it makes more sense now
Probably thought they'd leave TNP to us Brits
But they might be in the top 50 instead?
although I haven't made up my mind exactly who that is.
Either way, the album is real mediocre. Not in the Yeezus, 'this is hella shit, but I can see why people find it interesting' way, but in a 'this has 1 or 2 killer pop tunes, alongside some or the politest house filler (with exactly all the edges shaven off) that you'll hear all decade' kind of way.
At least only P4K and some of the more mnstrm music press has really got behind it.
I wouldn't bat an eyelid if someone posted that top 5 as their biggest disappointments of 2013. All majorly hyped albums that didn't meet most fans expectations. Move Daft Punk in there and you've got a list, son.*
*I actually like that one, though.
Also, Danny Brown as Biggest Disappointment of 2013?
Which isn't to say it's not a good album, but after listening to it four or five, I have no desire to listen to most of it again.
His first two albums and decent chunks of his other material are absolute classic imo and still in constant rotation, so yeah, for me it was pretty disappointing. ODB points to the album we could've had :(
Joe Muggs rates it though. Is it really that bad?
I get the feeling that it's like Daft Punk - perfectly enjoyable but not living up to the hype.
It is really well produced pop tech-house, with a couple of properly great tracks on it. But overall it's just so mind-numbingly inoffensive, unadventurous and polite that I don't really understand how anyone could love it.
there's no need to listen to the rest of the album ever again
If Bashmore had made an album it would probably have been him. House music has massively permeated the mainstream this year (in the UK anyway - MK getting a number 1?!) and if anyone's going to make a 'My First House Album' and go Platinum I'm fairly pleased for it to be Disclosure, who started off at a really young age with some cracking singles. The album's hardly a classic but seeing as electronic music is so difficult to navigate a way into I'm not surprised the amount of people who have jumped on a nicely packaged album full of vocal tracks.
Some great singles like you say, but given their diverse range of influences and talent, could definitely do something more adventurous than Settle. Don't really think their age gets them off the hook there.
Over here, they're riding on a crest a bit. As you say, Bashmore could've broken in a similar way. In the US, I guess it really has the potential to be a real zeitgeist, if acts like Disclosure can break house into the mainstream amidst a sea of EDM junk. Maybe that's why P4K have really gone for them.
Still won't make Settle any more exciting to listen too, though.
and that house hasn't made it over there yet. Was there just no electronic dance scene in say the 90s like there was here? Just the idea of someone like Disclosure being the ones to "break" house seems ... bizarre
One of my favourite albums of the year. Sort of very stripped back 80sish electronic pop, but subdued. Shades of Soft Cell.
the keyboard guy pumps the sub-bass waaay up (in a great way) and the singer is mesmerising, all melodramatic and intense
The purpose of the 'Honourable Mentions' list continues to perplex me.
And how Nick Cave's latest ended up being relegated there is just beyond me.
Kelela - Cut 4 Me
Thundercat - Apocalypse
Logos - Cold Mission
Ka - The Night's Gambit
Tim Hecker - Virgins
Even though not all of those would puncture my AOTY list, still pretty damning that they were left off the main list. Could add Holden to that too.
are all more niche releases, so always more likely to lose out in a consensus vote.
is like bffs with Grimes or something. and kinda the same thing. and she didn't release anything this year.
The point is Pitchfork has the ability to elevate something niche to the indie mainstream (Deafheaven is another good example) and a lot of the stuff on their list isn't automatically hyper popular. I guess they make editorial choices etc which I don't agree with is all this comes down to.
Love the Vampire Weekend record.
Happy its number one.
But the new EP was to late for everyone to vote for so stuck in two EPs from 2012 in the album list haha.
put Beyonce at No. 1 in their list. That was fast!
But sometime you just love the shit out of something right away, so yeah there you go. I've done that with stuff and still loved it for ages.
and went off it two weeks later
No Los Camp!
Thought it was their strongest to date
Have they stopped championing made up music then?
that P4K like to frame them as. That paragraph about Hannah Hunt in the top tracks list is just embarrassing. I do like those lyrics, and the lack of exposition in them, but they're definitely not amazing, whatsoever. They're just quite nice. The same goes for the lyrics for Diane Young, which Pitchfork also seemed to think were incredible.
"In a parallel universe, Ezra Koenig might produce a great American novel"- LOL
Dude's parents paid shitloads of money to send him to Columbia, ergo he must be a polymath arts genius. Right? Right?
it's like those promos you get describing things as 'future classics'
It's a great album either way.
though i do like quite a few tracks off it
an Ivy League indie-pop band that name-checks Lil Jon and Peter Gabriel in the same sustained breath?
as if it's something interesting. omg so culturally omnivorous.
ahahaha! Idiot faces
until it cropping up in the Honorable Mentions and it sounds brilliant. So you know, that's something
Vampire Weekend is a solid, if slightly uninspiring No1. It's definitely a really good album though.
Otherwise they have swallowed the hype and elevated a lot of albums which arrived with a lot of fanfare but frankly turned out to be patchy and/or underwhelming - Kanye, MBV, Daft Punk, Arcade Fire - together with weirdly over-rated stuff like Disclosure which us no more than a competent pop/dance record and Deafheaven which is no more than a competent heavy metal album.
From 20 down and the honourable mentions the list is packed with properly great stuff - Deerhunter, Oneohtrix Point Never, Julia Holter, Waxahatchee, Boards of Canada, Jon Hopkins, Parquet Courts, Forest Swords, Fuck Buttons, Rhye, The National, Nick Cave, Grouper, Holden, Ka, Tim Hecker. Almost all those albums are better than almost all the top 20.
which sounds pretty tight on first hearing. I'm surprised they've ranked Julia Holter so low - that just screams out as a Pitchfork Top 10 record
which is a shame because it's an amazing song otherwise
genuinely awful. absolute guff.
No Baths - Obsidian, either as a top 50 or an honorable mention? Didn't they give that like an 8.6 but it can't crack their top 71 albums? Only Ian Cohen (their best writer IMO) put it on his staff top 10, maybe no one else just got into it. He's also the only one to include Los Camp!, and those are 2 of my top 4 right there (Baths as my AOTY).
The vocals were, at least.
I thought the vocals were a huge step up from Cerulean
It's a really good album, probably should have placed higher in my own list tbh.
Odd and disgraceful
Why do the opinions of Pitchfork’s small team of writers and editor(s) hold more credibility than other sources like, for example, Drowned in Sound?
Why is there not multiple threads dissecting the individual EOY lists from various other websites or magazines?
If this has already been thrashed out by the DiS community, where is the thread?
And Pitchfork is important because it's big and influential. People are more likely to discuss an opinion piece that's been in the Guardian than one which was posted on some blog, right? Same idea. It doesn't mean that Pitchfork is necessarily 'better', or that there's some big conspiracy.
50. Lil Ugly Mane - Three Sided Tape [Volumes One and Two] (Self-Released)
49. Foodman - Shokuhin (Orange Milk)
48. Frog Eyes - Carey’s Cold Spring (Self-Released)
47. These New Puritans - Field Of Reeds (Infectious)
46. Paisley Parks - Бｈ○§† (Pan Pacific Playa)
45. Earn - Hell On Earth (Bathetic)
44. Grouper - Man Who Died In His Boat (Kranky)
43. The Dead C - Armed Courage (Ba Da Bing!)
42. Huerco S - Colonial Patterns (Software)
41. Death Grips - Government Plates (Self-Released)
40. Jenny Hval - Innocence Is Kinky (Rune Grammofon)
39. Chief Keef - Almighty So (Self-Released)
38. Ahnnu - World Music (Leaving)
37. Colin Stetson - New History Warfare Vol. 3: To See More Light (Constellation)
36. Wolf Eyes - No Answer: Lower Floors (De Stijl)
35. Julianna Barwick - Nepenthe (Dead Oceans)
34. The Flaming Lips - The Terror (Warner Bros.)
33. Lee Noble - Ruiner (Bathetic)
32. Nmesh - Nu.wav Hallucinations (AMDISCS)
31. Matana Roberts - COIN COIN Chapter Two: Mississippi Moonchile (Constellation)
30. Bill Callahan - Dream River (Drag City)
29. The Body - Christs, Redeemers (Thrill Jockey)
28. Stara Rzeka - Cien chmury nad ukrytym polem (Instant Classic)
27. Danny Brown - Old (Fool’s Gold)
26. Inga Copeland - Higher Powers (Self-Released)
25. James Blake - Overgrown (Republic)
24. Dirty Beaches - Drifters/Love Is the Devil (Zoo Music)
23. My Bloody Valentine - m b v (Self-Released)
22. Bill Orcutt - History Of Every One (Editions Mego)
21. Andrew Pekler - Cover Versions (Senufo Editions)
20. DJ Rashad - Double Cup (Hyperdub)
19. Dean Blunt - Stone Island (Self-Released)
18. The Knife - Shaking Habitual (Mute)
17. James Ferraro - NYC, HELL 3:00 AM (Hippos in Tanks)
16. Lucrecia Dalt - Syzygy (Human Ear Music)
15. D/P/I - Fresh Roses (Chance Images)
14. Laurel Halo - Chance Of Rain (Hyperdub)
13. Sean Mccann - Music For Private Ensemble (Recital)
12. Mohammad - Som Sakrifis (PAN)
11. Tim Hecker - Virgins (Kranky)
10. Forest Swords - Engravings (Tri Angle)
09. Arca - &&&&& (Hippos in Tanks)
08. 18+ - MIXTAP3 (Self-Released)
07. Graham Lambkin / Jason Lescalleet - Photographs (Erstwhile)
06. Autre Ne Veut - Anxiety (Software)
05. Kanye West - Yeezus (Roc-A-Fella)
04. Pharmakon - Abandon (Sacred Bones)
03. Julia Holter - Loud City Song (Domino)
02. Dean Blunt - The Redeemer (Hippos in Tanks)
01. Oneohtrix Point Never - R Plus Seven (Warp)
only let-up courtesy of the returning Finney and perhaps Currin.
so self-important, despite it seeming less and less the respected tastemaker, more the feeder site for the mainstream than ever before
Always make an effort to read his stuff.