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at least according to that Wire primer.
yeah that's all the spacey synth stuff init
was part of it but I don't think it had one overarching name because it was really just a load of disparate groups and types of music. within Germany they were aware of this obviously and I think the focus was around individual scenes and communes in different cities (Kraftwerk and Neu! in Düsseldorf, Can in Cologne, Amon Düül in Munich etc). it was only framed as a single genre by English journalists and their desire to herd cats and put johnny foreigner in his place ("we can't have the boche inventing motorik").
Something which amusingly has resulted in krautrock effectively becoming slang for "interesting, experimentally minded rock music" whilst the contemporary british equivalent, progressive rock, has become slang for "awfully embarrassingly pompously overbearing rock music"
I think there's a few reasons for that - the Germans (and Pink Floyd come to think of it) largely avoided wanky time signatures and the pretensions to jazz and baroque classical music that come with that. solos were kept to a minimum, or at least served the song rather than the vice versa, with most of the instruments locked into a groove rather than the whole playing ten moogs in spandex through plumes dry ice. and concept albums were given a wide berth or kept vague enough to mean anything (Tangerine Dream's Phaedra or Amon Düül II). they stayed the fuck away from King Arthur and Tolkien. most importantly, the best Krautrock bands never lost the funk (which Genesis and ELP never had). you listen to Can's Vitamin C, anything by Kraftwerk or Neu!/Neu!75 and you can dance to that shit. prog's downfall is you, largely, can't.
not all of it is as wimpy as english stuff but it definitely existed,
though there was also this sorta wimpy hippy flute wank
plus solos were the VERY ESSENCE of bands like Guru Guru who totally kicked ass for awhile
well afaik there's none of the overplaying that Yes or ELP or whoever used to deal in in Amon Duul etc. As far as the stuff i've actually heard anyway
(though I do like BOTH Yes and ELP) there's the Amon Duul side and the more obviously prog type stuff, which I think was generally more on the HARD ROCK and heavy psyche side (could be wrong)
um and then there's Can etc whcih are a totally different thing again. difficult to generalise I guess
Italian prog was frequently though I think. don't know a great deal about it however. aside from Goblin who were really good.
and I was thinking that sounded quite like Can. So Can are Jazz-Funk now. END OF STORY
I can't really rule on these things. I was about to write 'over the top stuff isn't my sort of thing' but I like all the insane layered Boredoms things and even a bit of Mahavishnu Orchestra and that is canny prog isn't it? I dunno. Is that Fusion? Actually who cares
Yeah Amon Duul are certainly Heavy Psych in my book (I wrote Krautrocksampler)
I think they're the only Italian prog I can ever remember listening to though
The best Brit prog was way better than literally anything those blimmin' continentals came up with. Not saying we didn't corner the market with overbearing embarassing shit, though.
but I genuinely enjoyed that. I think my dad has that record haha
I've certainly heard it called that as an alternative to krautrock.
all these definitions are so exciting eh
"the experimental rock and roll musicians whose pop sensibilities are often as psychedelic as they are efficient"
bit of a mouthful really
anyone got that new soul jazz krautrock compilation? there seems to be quite a few things I've never heard of on there
there's a page for krautrock on the german wikipedia:
'In Germany Krautrock was often used as a self-ironic name for your own music to express the fact that you Germany for a pop culture kept developing country'
Amon Dull more like
Michael Rather-Not more like
Tangerine NIGHTMARE more like
DAFTwerk more like
(bottom two stolen)
Conny PLANK more like