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I haven't ever listened to them by choice for some reason.
Although they are very good.
any decent artist will make some shit by pushing beyond their boundaries, but they don't have to release it, do they?
but if it's a representation of their ideas at that particular line and, for example, an album straddles that line in palces but not in others (although the line is more a grey area) then why wouldn't you put it out?
So im taking this to mean my phone's telling me its correct. So Im never going to listen to devo
...in your opinion.
They're good, but the greatest? Clearly no. In fact there isn't a SINGLE greatest band, there are MANY greatest bands.
And no, we can't agree about that. Garbage are better in EVERY way (songs, live shows, voice, image, production, etc) than Devo. Devo seems like a band for geeks.
Let's compare their best known songs:
Whip It: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvD82i4Ixkk
Only Happy When It Rains: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdhEx_KLpiI
Whip It it's still catchy, but it sounds a bit cheesy, dated and powerless. OHWIR is a perfect song and it totally destroys the poor Whip It. Totally. No need to be Garbage fan to admit that.
Want more examples? ;)
Which one is better (voice, lyrics, production, riffs, songwriting, music video)?
works quite well actually
No pal, facts. I'm serious. Icarus-Smicarus stated that Devo are better than Garbage. Let's see it it really is. How else, if not by comparing them?
"Gut Feeling" (the song that you posted as Youtube link) is the best Devo song? Nice instrumental, terrible singing, '70s production-style. Not too impressed.
Here's a challenge. I pick one Garbage song (one of their best), "Push It": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jqOeGm1j-w Listen it at least once.
I challenge you to post the BEST Devo song ever. Their masterpiece. Then let's see how it compares with "Push It". Try to punch me with their best/most powerful/awesome song. I want to be impressed. Don't disappoint me.
* Let's see IF it really is.
i'm genuinely not going to spend my time trying to prove that devo are better than garbage you absolute fucking idiot
Do your homework, pal. Don't talk shit if you don't have all data.
PS: You're the support for cat_race? Very poor.
It's not your real laugh, isn't? ;)
But you're definitely a bit of a card. Also consulting all data would suggest that they make an album every 5 years which doesn't seem like the work of enthusiastic Garbagers.
They didn't an album every 5 years. 1st one in 1995, 2nd in 1998, 3rd in 2001, 4th in 2005, a long hiatus until 2011, 5th one in 2012.
Count also that every album was followed by big world tour (usually over a year). Count also that they spend a lot of time in the studio perfecting their albums.
5 years you said?
You win this round. Also I enjoy your complete dedication to Garbage. To the point wherein I actually might listen, very briefly mind, to the last Garbage album. In consulting the track listing there is a song called Automatic Systematic Habit which has to be worth the price of admission.
This is your fucking level, cat_race. A poor hipster lost in the DiS forum... Imbecile.
Take my torpedo: you don't want to spend the time proving that Devo are better than Garbage because YOU CAN'T. That's way, pal.
I gave you the chance to prove me that I'm wrong.
your fucking torpedo? what? that's genuine mental instability. you might genuinely believe garbage are better than devo but i don't fucking trust you. and insulting people actually isn't my level at all, i just like the way you go off
"your fucking torpedo" is a metaphor. It's a reference to a previous comment of mine in another topic. You're that stupid to not understand a simple metaphor? A torpedo is meant to do damage.
"you might genuinely believe garbage are better than devo".
Why it's so hard to believe that? I put a song from both bands side by side. To my ears, Garbage's song is way better. To your hipster ears it's Devo.
Of course if you're a big Devo fan (and you seem to be) you simply CAN'T accept that.
Got it, moron?
the rugrats theme tune is an infinitely more valuable cultural artifact than ANYTHING garbage have ever produced
i just can't handle them. pretty sure it's a rule though that the longer your posts are the madder you are. that's an internet thing in general though, i'm not refering to you
only a fucking hipster like you would hate gabage, you hipster. try and get your stupid hipster brain around garbage, the greatest band the world has ever seen. they will blow your tiny mind
i just can't
I never claimed that Garbage are "the greatest band the world has ever seen".
Hipsters usually hate anything with a good melody, anything that sounds great, anything entertaining. They want difficult music, abrasive noise or boring shit.
I know it's an useless fight to change their minds, but I did it anyway.
just submit. he did it anyway
You started talking shit about Garbage. How predictable.
Zero arguments. That's what you have.
they're not even in the same game!
They're in a superior league.
To avoid ANY misunderstandings.
you guys are pulling right?
You seem like a troll. I can't take you seriously with stuff like "devo are the greatest band that ever existed".
On what basis you did this statement? Do you really think that Devo are better than Kraftwerk, Depeche Mode, The Cure, New Order, Radiohead, Joy Division, My Bloody Valentine, The Beatles, Primal Scream, Wire, Massive Attack, Boards of Canada, Ladytron, Underworld, Orbital, Tangerine Dream, Metric, just to name a few?
As I said before, it's just your opinion. We can agree or disagree with your opinion. I chose to disagree.
massive attack are fucking awful you lunatic
You cretin, they made a masterpiece like Mezzanine. They did Unfinished Sympathy. Your taste in music OFFICIALLY SUCKS.
mate. what the fuck.
He lost his own race! :D
To a fucking rabbit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwLn_His9Yw
you fixate on more simplistic things.
you were being trolled up there; Devo and your beloved Garbage wouldn't appear to be comparable.
Both use guitars and synths. Both have vocalists. It's not like comparing Autechre with Jeff Buckley.
Devo are a good band. But better than Garbage? No fucking way.
you look at things in a very simplistic way. it's not about the instruments, it's about the underlying philosophies behind the music and how that manifests.
just have a look at the lyrics, perhaps. Devo did operated on an infinitely more sophisticated level than Garbage.
garbage are a level 1 indie band for people who like bands based purely on whether or not they want to drink the singer's piss
i thought they split up 10 years ago
when a band is so boring that people don't really know whether they've split up or not. it's like those borderline celebs that you can't remember whether they're dead or not
yeah, absolutely no idea whether or not he is dead
"...that people don't really know whether they've split up or not".
Again, you talk shit like a MOFO. People are damn entitled to know these facts? There's Wikipedia or the official site if they want to know that. Garbage announced when they went to hiatus and when they came back. Do you want a personal letter for these announcements?
Garbage have over 740K "likes" on Facebook. Not bad for a "boring" band.
Less than half compared with Garbage. They're not that popular as you might think.
is your argument losing steam?
You know, "when a band is so boring that people don't really know whether they've split up or not" could work both ways...
How many people know that Devo came back with the excellent album Something For Everybody in 2010? How many people know that Devo are still alive? Not too many.
You can't put this very argument against Garbage when it could apply also to Devo...
Also let's compare Last.fm (a music site):
Devo: 603,668 listeners
Garbage: 1,411,527 listeners
Again, more than double. Or this one is not good too?
what's your point?
cat_race said "when a band is so boring that people don't really know whether they've split up or not".
My point is that it could work BOTH ways and much more for Devo, because they're less popular than Garbage.
The chances for people that don't really know whether a band split up or not are MUCH higher for a less known band like Devo.
And I demonstrated that Garbage are more popular than Devo. It's clear?
is the sort of fact that's relevant in evaluating whether one band is better than another.
The number of likes on FB was just a small part of my argument.
"...people don't really know whether they've [Garbage] split up or not" THIS is the main point that I'm trying to debunk.
This applies more for Devo than Garbage. Why? Because Devo being less popular than Garbage, MORE people (normal people, not fans) don't really know whether they've split up or not. It's proportional.
So, I tried to prove that Devo are less popular than Garbage, in order to prove my point.
Why it's so fucking hard to understand?
I'm pretty sure the majority of Garbages likes are from people trying to show their appreciation of waste.
My patience ended... now.
you don't have a lot of patience and this makes me sad :(
and users of those websites.
which isn't surprising, when you take into account the respective eras in which reached their popular and critical apogees.
also cultural elements, like the probable overlap of [Garbage fan] and [owner of a trenchcoat] criteria.
"Devo did operated on an infinitely more sophisticated level than Garbage".
Good joke. Their music is simplistic. Maybe the lyrics with Devo-lution stuff are more advanced. But that's all. They're pretty far from Kraftwerk's level of sophistication (for example).
"it's about the underlying philosophies behind the music and how that manifests."
See, I judge music on its own merits. How it sounds. I don't want to be influenced by what others (usually critics) think about it. I judge by myself.
their sound was the sonic extension of their ideas. it was complicated and populist at the same time, freakish and devolved. properly conceptual, but not in a flawed, ungraspable way. fully-realised ART.
Kraftwerk were after something else, i.e. being more like robots. equally fascinating, equally sophisticated and well-realised.
y'know, it's fine to be open to the ideas of critics. as long as the critics in question aren't just an unchecked ego with flawed ideas (Christgau, True... and even these had some moments of insight).
I feel like you're defensive because the critical purview tends to clash with a more populist stance like your own. the two aren't mutually incompatible, though.
if an idea isn't evident in the music created with said idea in mind, then that music is flawed. but then it depends on how you listen whether you pick up on properly manifested ideas or not.
critics are reknowned for keenness of ear and extensive subject knowledge, and as such, can enlighten the more green listener of things they might not pick up on.
like, sometimes an artist will borrow context from a pre-existing piece of music, art, or whatever, and a listener unexposed to that reference won't understand. doesn't mean it isn't at all palpable, though.
haha, jeez, I've gone on a bit, here.
Now i like Metric, don't get me wrong...
are the most aptly titled band ever
You never listened one of their songs, right?
"Garbage are the most aptly titled band ever" -> "Very tired joke".
i only used a garbage joke to highlight just how garbage Garbage are.
Songs? Lyrics? Production? Shows? Image?
I want to know.
Everyone agrees that Garbage are totally rad.
I want to understand why this hate? For a band that worked hard during their career, that made so many great songs, that put on great shows.
I saw them live, and they put a lot of passion on their show. Look for live performances on Youtube if you don't believe me.
I guess they're not popular on DiS (like Pink Floyd for example) and I'm wasting my time proving that they're great.
I mean, the band have counted worldwide album sales of over 17 million units! What's not to like?
...and keep the retarded videos with 'leave britney alone' for yourself. Mkay? Good.
lyrics - shit
production - shit
shows - not seen, maybe brilliant?
image - shit
BULLSHIT. The end.
this was the funniest goddamn argument I've ever seen on DiS.
(it's also true though obviously)
They really, really aren't. Some absolutely dreadful stuff on all of their albums after the first one.
However, a 90 minute live set or a 15 song best of - they are definitely up there.
Are We Not Men is one of the best albums ever really isn't it.
but I won't just yet.
Devo were of course a huge influence on CARDIACS who ARE the greatest band in the world so we have to thank them for that. Great band but not the greatest.
can't stand them
But I like the cut of your jib so continue.
and all the better for it
2 great albums, 1 perfect album and an assortment of scattergun moments of genius in between. Nobody likes overachievers.
is their best record
I can't get into Devo.
I've tried, I've really, really tried.
i just think they're fucking amazing
HAPPIER THAN YOU AND ME
i love deep-blue listening all those bands like The Beatles, Kraftwerk, Joy Division and then...Metric
Make your own list if you don't like that. That was just an example.
but then gets totally sucked into the deep-blue vortex
You don't lose anything. Alt+F4 and you're done.
By the way, it was between me and cat_race. Why so many users (including you) appeared on MY discussion and ruined/disrupted the flow of it?
This is one thing that I don't like about DiS forum. This mob mentality.
I've enjoyed your particular brand of lunacy though, had no idea who the fuck you are like but in viewing other people's reactions it seems like this is a regular thing.
3/5 Stars, would be trolled again.
Go and enjoy you brand of lunacy somewhere else.
devo ARE the greatest band that ever existed
...with such eloquent reply as "i'm genuinely not going to spend my time trying to prove that devo are better than garbage you absolute fucking idiot".
Lovely. I don't like to leave business unfinished.
website is fucking garbage.
Now hurry up with my damn croissants.
actually, carry on
I want to annoy them in my own style.
- starts insulting people when she don't have arguments
- refuses my challenge to find a better song than a Garbage song I already selected with the stupid reason that "i'm genuinely not going to spend my time trying to prove that devo are better than garbage you absolute fucking idiot".
Who the fuck you think you are? I don't deserve a decent answer? What started as a pretty decent discussion turned into a mess after this comment. And then you wonder like an idiot why you've got what you deserve...
"i'm genuinely not going to spend my time"... yeah right. But you spent it replying useless comments all over this topic...
2. A lot of people derailed the discussion. It's hard to understand which one replied to which one.
3. The mob mentality from DiS forum totally sucks. People that never heard of Garbage in their own boring lives, talked shit about them. Because mob mentality, that's why. No decent arguments, no nothing good.
One example from alcxxk:
"songs - shit
lyrics - shit
production - shit
shows - not seen, maybe brilliant?
image - shit"
What kind of crappy argument is that? Do you think you're a troll? ;)
4. Lots of misunderstandings because point #2.
5. Devo definitely aren't the greatest band ever. cat_race, you lost.
I'd pay top bucks for that on PPV
and deep-blue can wear shirley's middle aged diarrhea like war paint
One more reason why you suck.
hahaha. i only insult you because i know your vein will go off
Your point was to annoy me but actually I'm laughing at you. Your simplistic trolling failed.
Not lying, it was quite entertaining...
you're the mental charging in here banging on about a band that nobody has given a toot about since TFI friday was on the air. stop being crazy. stop pretending there was anything good about garbage. were you in them or something?
YOU WERE IN FUCKING GARBAGE!!
the weird old man?
I am dismayed by the tone that is being used between the users car_race and deep-blue. I personally think that both Devo and Garbage are good bands that make good music, but the music that they make is good in different ways. Since you two users seem to represent the polar opinions here, I shall write letters to you both.
Garbage are a group that have made a number of wonderful singles that you may have forgotten about because they are so popular and ingrained into popular culture. I think the best thing about Garbage is that they can be anything from loud to ambient, with more emphasis on melody than rhythm. They are a great example of synth pop and their songs are the sorts of songs that you can enjoy when paying a lot of attention to them, but also when you are doing other things. They work on multiple levels.
Devo are a band that have many great ideas and many not so good ideas, but conceptually have always been exciting, boundary pushing and have never been afraid of taking risks. They have consistently challenged their audiences and their first two albums are magnificent examples of where their stripped down approach manages to capture a raw intensity that many others would not be brave enough to try. They can be anything from loud to ambient, with more emphasis on melody than rhythm. They are a great example of synth pop and their songs are the sorts of songs that you can enjoy when paying a lot of attention to them, but also when you are doing other things. They work on multiple levels. Did you know that one of them wrote the theme tune to Rugrats? It's hard to believe, isn't it, considering how different it sounds.
I hope you two can get along and realise that music is subjective and that you're both right and both wrong here. It is obvious that you both care very much about music, and that music should be the unifier. Let the music light your way and enjoy two great bands hook hand car door hook.
Think of the music!
One more than the other.
ALSO: this "war" isn't only between me and cat_race, but also between me and other haters that can't stand me and now they found a good opportunity to talk shit about me.
Dear haters, you entertain me with your stupidity. A good thing is that I don't take seriously your crappy comments.
please don't 'retire from drowned in sound' like you did last time though, the place became painfully dull without your insightful, though slightly psychopathic, outlook on music.
Too much entertainment is not good. Maybe in a month or two, I'll think about it. Depending if I'm getting bored or not.
because i was 12
devo are the greatest band that ever existed... in your opinion. They're good, but the greatest? Clearly no. -- me.
personally, I can't stand them -- prison_keith
I'm inclined to agree but I won't just yet. -- CillaCrack
In terms of consistency of output They really, really aren't. -- dan_thw
A lot of their material will debunk this theory pretty quickly -- Yesiamaduck
is this true?I haven't ever listened to them by choice for some reason. -- incandenza_
It's the Replacements mate. But I like the cut of your jib so continue. -- wilykit
100% not trolling I can't get into Devo. I've tried, I've really, really tried. -- hanshotfirst
Almost nobody agree with your theory that Devo are the greatest band. The Garbage discussion was a "good" diversion. The reality is that you lost.
there's just a disparity between how much I know about them and how much I've heard.
thing is, cat_race wasn't trying to win. she just happens to really like Devo. ergo, she wins because she gets to enjoy their music believing this to be true.
y'know, cat_race is a really nice girl. you should try to get along with her better.
Never really heard of them til I read Simon Reynolds' chapter on them in Rip It Up. Top, top band.
"she just happens to really like Devo".
Cool. But why she needed to dismiss Garbage so hard? Both bands aren't polar opposites. While I don't quite like their vocalist and their production, I still like some Devo songs. I already said that they're a good band.
fuck them. kill them. by the way, your username is like a brand of dildo or something
step aside one moment everybody I want to get to the most important part of this entire comment....
cat_race is a girl? :O
especially considering their love for Magic:The Gathering
amazed it's taken this long for people to realise.
there was a thread a bit ago where it came out. i am from manchester though, all that is true. but i never fucked moousee. he's not getting anywhere near me
and moousee wanted to be together so badly. didn't he write a song for you once, but it was terrible because he used all the wrong chords?
Thought it was obvious
which probably just means you're actually trying to convince yourself. don't worry though, there was no war here.
I let the facts to speak for themselves. Anyway, game over.
I don't think this is over yet. The jury is still out on who is better: Garbage or Devo.
I just don't feel like we have all the data.
Who has more views on youtube?
and who has the best hats…..
but i couldn't have anticipated something of this magnitude.
I've never heard a song by Garbage I disliked, to be honest. Where to start with their shit stuff?
...on this topic: http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/social/4439443
A bunch of hipsters (some that also commented here) criticizing me. Unbelievable.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
with people deliberately baiting deep-blue. There's shabs and bants and all that but he seems to take it a bit seriously - enough to stop posting last time he had to deal with this shit (ty penguin). I'd prefer him to stick around a bit longer thanks.
You could view his unusual / non-DiS conforming opinions as trolling but I'm pretty sure he genuinely holds them. In which case poking him to get more 'comedy' posts is just teasing someone for their own amusement (keen not to use the bullying word).
I'd rather a character around here saying something a bit different than the usual cynicism and point scoring.
it's the overly aggressive, assertive and mathematical way he does so.
He feels he needs to back up every objective argument with cold hard facts and he clearly scores and validates/disregards peoples taste in music in almost every thread he goes to and he gives said person a list of pro's and con's whilst doing so. Plays off really patronizing so it doesn't surprise me at all that this is the response he gets, if he honestly feels this way about x y & z and these responses are genuine then he needs to take a step back and reconsider how seriously he takes music and how people shouldn't need to hold his opinion as some sort of benchmark.
To me it just comes across as really passionate. There was a stage in my life where I would be almost arrogant in my assertions about music (Queen can still fuck off) and I'd use my analytical brain to try and get my passion for some music over another across in perhaps not the best use of language or information. It stimulates debate though and I still prefer this approach than the boring 'ah, it's all subjective, let's not discuss anything cos if you like it then fair enough'.
There were some interesting subjects in this thread worth talking about, a few raised by deep-blue but they're lost now. Also, we meet people with his 'personality' or approach to conversation in everyday life all the time and tolerate / ignore them if they're not to our liking. Surely we can do the same on here. It just gets bland agreeing with each other all the time.
and reply to everyone either validating or dismissing them, I can't remember what thread it was but the was one recently where it felt completely unnecessary, as I say he has good insightful opinions but he delivers them in a way that's just going to get him a negative response.
Its endearing if anything
but I see why people ridicule him for it/get annoyed by it/see it as some sort of challenge.
I worded the above really poorly, it's what I do due to being shit with words, and I do find it endearing but it's gotten to the stage where people are intentionally trying to get the response out of him because they enjoy it so much on top of people genuinely being annoyed by it.
I'll admit it I did it as well for the response out of Deep_Blue because I find it fascinating and now I feel like a dick for doing it and I'm sorry and shall stop doing it in the future.
which is just below the upper limits of shabs and bants.
in the kind of language and humour we use - dripping with banter, irony, cynicism, sarcasm, wind ups and stuff. Most of us can pick up on it even without tone of voice but maybe it seems confrontational or aggressive if you're not used to it. idk.
You see, initially, I had a good laugh with this thread but as it progressed into a bitter feud I developed a fair bit of sympathy for deep-blue.
There's nothing wrong with a practical joke; but even with a seasoned DISer, maybe it doesn't travel as well when all you can see is text and hyperlinks rather than a human face.
Plus, especially because this Garbage thing is a familiar DIS trope, people don't know when to drop it and carry on and on digging themselves into a hole.
Just to clear that up
Er, Shirley Mothersbaugh
something like that
...deep-blue finds an old box of plasticine in the loft and decides to make clay caricatures of various bands and then uses them to claymation videos of them battling until one or both meet really gruesome ends. Maybe he could get in touch with MTV?
Cheers. I'll watch them all this weekend, though it's going to be an awkward transition from the Mad Men season people who like Mad Men don't even like.
incredible. absolutely incredible.
To open a topic behind the scenes and discuss/slander/laugh about me, was a crappy thing to do. THAT pissed me off, not this current topic. To see those cowards gathered on that topic hoping that I'm not seeing it, brought nothing but contempt in me. Since when it became a thing to make fun of deep-blue, just because I defend my opinions so fiercely? It's gone too far.
Now, I lost even the small appreciation I had for this forum, so the only left thing to do is to retire from DiS.
That's all folks.
Don't take it personal (easy to say?). Punks will be punks.
You give as good as you get imo and you never always have to have the last word so of course eventually it's gonna bubble over.
see you next week soft lad
but don't worry I made a new thread
He'll be back.
they're threatened by your realness.
We've got nothing in common...
while listening to each Garbage and Devo album one after another. Then we can have an informed discussion afterwards over a cheese board and some wine.
Something for Everybody RUINED that by being quite good though.
Very good band anyway. Better than Garbage. Mind the songs of Garbage were played constantly on the radio when I was about 11 so maybe I just got sick of hearing them
1. cat_race won? I mentioned before that she lost and why. After the game is finished, the counting is stopped. Plus, how she could won, when almost nobody agreed with her statement from the title and ALSO I beat her with arguments like a punchbag? Her arguments? Zero.
No matter what she says, the facts are against her. Plus, later in this topic she proved to be a truly disgusting person with some embarrassing comments.
2. "I don't think the Social board classes as 'behind the scenes'". Really? You knew that I visit that board rarely. Why didn't notify me "hey pal, we're talking about you here" for a right of reply (of how it's called)? Fucking cowards.
3. I don't want to be part of this forum, full of hipsters (with some exceptions). A place where many bands that are mainstream and wrote strong and melodic songs (like Garbage or U2 for example) are derided. It's clearly a waste of time to try to open the minds of hipsters to other kinds of music than their usual indie bedwetter stuff; it's like teaching philosophy to monkeys.
I thought that DiS is more open to mainstream bands, and not only when those bands suddenly become cool (see Paramore's latest album as a strong example). Before that album, you all hated Paramore, right?
A place where a shit band (IMO) like Future of the Left is regarded as some kind of genius band. I listened yesterday to one of their songs at random, 'sheena is a t-shirt salesman". Jesus, what a terrible song. Especially the singer's voice is very annoying. I also listened other songs of them; same reaction. Different brains, different opinions I guess.
You hate Garbage, I hate Future of the Left. So, basically some part from my taste in music is not compatible with DiS forum's usual level. Time to go.
4. Basically what I did in this topic was some sort of experiment. To make a statement. To prove you that:
a) some of you are so fucking hipsters, more awful than those from P4K. Of course there are still great people here (Sean being the first one). "Irreverent community"? Awful community is more closer to truth. DiS forum is filled with so much bullshit, it's unbelievable. Esp. the social board.
b) to actually LISTEN to songs and judge for yourself (that challenge); leave the crap with cultural relevance or band names jokes aside and value the songs for what they worth.
c) a lot of hipsters participated at discussion totally uninvited, just to make fun. They think that I'm sort of a comedian. I used comedy to place my ideas in a stronger way. And because I like comedy (George Carlin FTW!). I'm smarter than you think.
d) the stupid mob mentality from DiS (if someone is attacked, the others support the attacker without any decent reason). To make fun. Their reason? Fuck you, that's why.
e) I don't give up. That's my style, liking or not. But I mentioned that I retired NOT because of this topic, but because of the other topic. Don't confuse things as you like it so much. I like clarity.
I don't want you to agree with me. Just read.
PS: Sean, did you get my PM?
Hahaha complaining about 'behind the scenes' chat and then whining to Sean in a PM...
Also pretty sure the phrase 'truly disgusting person' should be reserved for, y'know, people who actually do bad things?
Where were you for the Steely Dan threads?
Is this a joke account? Not read a bizzare rant like this since "Why Are Venues So Horrible?".
Think I'm gonna have to spend my Sunday reading this thread now, like the Hollyoaks omnibus.
you're a very naughty biy
nobody is this much of an anorak
[He'll be back though]
and has been proved by science.
It's the way you assert your music taste onto others, I would've thought this thread would've opened your eyes to it but oh well never mind.
Nice rant btw :)
and it's fucking ace. Hilarious stuff but also great, I like Garbage but this is better.
I made it at work one day when someone on here posted that link to good mine of stems ripped from guitar hero etc :)
don't recall this, will try and find
nothing seems to redeem Ohio
apart from….Trouble Books, Emeralds, The National and the soon to be Mrs Pale-eyedBadger
Yep thats it.
This seemed to be the right thread to mention it
Etch A Sketch
Connections, the Breeders, Times New Viking, The Mice...
Can someone summarise it in the style of a Royter-Hatfood post
South London is shit