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Sort of tongue in cheek, sort of not.
Random Access Memories?
Shaking The Habitual?
* haven't listened to the album
and recuperated all the marketing budget 10 times over! *don't have official figures to hand.
And get yourself a copy and listen to it dude!
probably Franz Ferdinand. Surprised that it's not even in the iTunes top 200.
bought the cd from picadilly records for my girlfriend, ended up listening to it more than her despite not even being a fan up till now.
it got to number 6 in the album chart and number 1 in the indie chart. Not bad going...
Might be the second best they've ever done. They should be up there with the Monkeys but just goes to show when you release a few average albums it's harder to get back on the radar and into fickle fans brains.
it isn't very good
i mean, i'm sure the band and Domino are well aware that they're not a 'mainstream indie' band anymore, and that their records are gonna sell a fraction of what they once did. I'm sure if Franz were bothered about keeping a profile up they wouldn't take four years between albums.
while wasn't terrible kinda flopped after all that intense hype.
Hardly a flop for an album that was never likely to be a massive mainstream success (too spikey, which is why I like it)
Pretty sure it will feature in the top 10 of a lot of AOY lists, even in a strong year, and will probably be the highest rated British debut of the year.
Not sure what criteria you are basing success. Left field rock records like that haven't gone high in the charts since the mid-eighties.
Just looking at some similarly critically acclaimed debut albums by alternative bands, all released on indie labels with comparable levels of publicity and expectation:
Crocodiles by Echo and the Bunnymen's got to number 17 in the UK in 1980 (it didn't chart in the US)
Surfer Rosa didn't chart at all when it was released in 1988 in the UK and the US.
Bleach by Nirvana didn't chart when first released in 1989 (it got to 34 in the UK and 89 in the US when re-released after Nevermind)
Mogwai Young Team got to number 75 in 1997
All of these records have subsequently sold well but they've never been chart toppers.
The fact that it's been forgotten in the OP shows how much it flopped.
Album delivered little.
That's what I was after with the thread really. All the records I listed got BNM from Pitchfork, after all.
Otherwise we're talking about album sales.
don't know their arse from their elbow.
Last record did pretty well, but I don't think I've read a single thing about the latest one.
From multi-platinum records and headlining major festivals to hitting the toilet circuit and selling around 500 copies in the first week. And terrible reviews to boot.
Sunk without trace.
I quite like it, though.
....seemingly released to mass indifference little more than 5 years after their arena tour.
...an arena tour that was infamously under-sold, mind.
But doesn't it feel like a long long year of fantastic music that it seems like a lifetime ago I was loving Everything Everything, Nick Cave, Villagers, Parquet Courts, Christopher Owens, Matthew E White, Dutch Uncles, Youth Lagoons and Hookworms.
Maybe it's just me having a trying year...
...not quite sure what my point was.
Maybe something about records released early in the year being forgotten about? Yeah, that's it. Not the post topic is it, ah well.
Seems to happen every year too. It's why I quite like reading and devising year end lists, they're good reminders. Just the other day I heard John Grant's Pale Green Ghosts for the first time in ages.
Shaking The Habitual & Yeezus: 2 terrible albums following 2 excellent albums (Deep Cuts & MBDTF).
not that I agree with this, though admittedly STH is not what most Knife fans seem to have wanted.
I meant Silent Shout.
Silent Shout shirley?
biggest flop. Twenty years of anticipation which produced a shit album and forgettable gigs at Brixton Electric (god that was shit) and at Hammersmith. Their ICA "rehearsal" gig in 2008 remains one of my best ever.
so I'm not having that one.
The gigs maybe, I didn't go.
It was "universally acclaimed" because most of the people who reviewed it had been waiting so long for a new MBV record that they couldn't help but love it.
I quite like it, because I like My Bloody Valentine, but after twenty years it's hard to claim that it's anything particularly special, and it's definitely not worthy of "universal acclaim".
"it was "universally acclaimed" because most of the people who reviewed it had been waiting so long for a new MBV record that they couldn't help but love it."
that's not the way the music press works
In Another Way is one of the best songs of the year. Wonder 2's something else too
Probably my #3 for the year. Voted for it to win the Neptune Prize. Only Tomorrow might be my favourite MBV track after Sometimes.
and well worthy of the plaudits. Still my no.1 album of the year, and looking less and less likely to be unseated before Xmas...
It's less good than It's Blitz! (their masterpiece in my opinion), but still listenable.
I heard the new one a few times before their Ally Pally gig but thought it was average. I had high hopes after It's Blitz; a perfect 10/10 album. I think I bought a deluxe version that had an acoustic version of Hysterical. Such an amazing song. The new album sadly for me is just very average. As for MBV's new one. It's just emperor's new clothes. There's nothing there. The onky good thing with regards to MBV this year for me was standing next to J Mascis at the Brixton gig.
He was wearing some Adidas tracksuit I think
dressed in a stereotypical J Mascis way with the baseball cap etc. I guess you were up front to the right of the stage too. He seemed pretty affable. A couple of rude arseholes stuck their camera phones right up to his face, maybe two inches away and took a few pictures. He seemed not too bothered.
Maybe replace Yeezus with Field of Reeds (surely the biggest 'flop' of all?).
This thread is stupid.
Not sure what you were expecting: it followed an obscure underground curio, received barely any marketing and got near-universal critical acclaim (http://www.metacritic.com/music/field-of-reeds/these-new-puritans/critic-reviews).
but maybe it's a flop in the commercial sense? I don't know enough about that
a flop is an album that a label has spent a shitload on trying to make successful which then was, commercially, unsuccessful. pretty sure Random Access Memories is the biggest selling album of the year by a mile? don't see how something as purposefully confrontational as Shaking The Habitual can be a flop either.
clearly the actual answer is something like the Stooshe record, or whatever the American equivalent of the Stooshe record is.
Shut the door on your way out
wah wah wah words have meanings wah wah wah shaking the habitual.
I'd say that a flop is when there are certain expectations of an album- that it's going to sell lots, that it's going to break an artist, that it's going to be an amazing game changing record etc- and then the album completely fails to live up to those expectations.
So you could say that the Daft Punk album was a flop because it wasn't a huge critical success, or maybe more importantly, it hasn't (so far..) been deemed a really important entry into Daft Punk's back catalogue, which is what everyone was hoping for. And for an artist like Daft Punk, the critical perspective is a lot more relevant than how many records they sell.
And I guess the Savages album could be seen as a flop because it didn't 'take off' in the way that labels always dream of guitar records doing, despite all the hype and lots of "this is an IMPORTANT BAND just like in THE LATE SEVENTIES AND EARLY EIGHTIES" marketing.
Even NME gave that album a 10/10 (what a joke). On Metacritic it has a huge score, 87/100: http://www.metacritic.com/music/random-access-memories/daft-punk
"And for an artist like Daft Punk, the critical perspective is a lot more relevant than how many records they sell".
As you can see they got a lot of critical acclaim. If it was deserved or not, that's another story...
maybe i was going mainly off what people on here were saying
either that or they've got one eye on the ad revenue.
aside from The Wonder Years (4 Reviews).
The Year Black Metal Broke
so stooshe then
There seems to be a lot of people out there desperately trying to convince themselves that album starts and stops with A Tooth For An Eye and doesn't spend the next hour HAVING A MESSAGE. NO REALLY. A MESSAGE. YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO THE MESSAGE. LISTEN TO THE MESSAGE.
Where's the music?
What's your OPINION?
It's easier to argue about commercial flops, but what were the albums that were expected to receive widespread critical praise, but ended up getting roasted, instead?
Has anyone paid it even the slightest bit of attention since the week it came out? I'd actually forgotten it existed until I needed to contribute to this thread.
Depeche Mode - Delta Machine
Return to form blah blah best album we've made in years blah got our energy back blah blah zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
...and quite a lot too, but then again, i do have issues.
huge amounts of hype each time, middling reviews, forgotten within a month.
...i'll assume that you mean 'not much hype', as was the case.
all good albums tho. but yeah, thats my problem.
but there certainly seems to be plenty of excitement for a band that have only released 1 or 2 albums anyone actually gives a shit about.
...but then i think a little, reasonably placed excitement remains warranted. they still make really good records (with a few really great songs) and make for a fantastic live show, when they bother to play. anyways, gone slightly off topic there. apologies.
had little to no hype and nobody was really that nuts about the tracks that came out beforehand. I was actually kinda pleasantly surprised by it and still listen occasionally. not a brilliant album but by no means a massive flop.
If they'd toured this autumn, interest would have been at an absolute premium.
Do we think Bowie's album was a flop? After the initial hysteria, I don't think I've heard anyone mention him.
In terms of falls from grace, Borrell's has gotta win. Would also be interested to see the sales of Editor's album
He's not getting radio play, so no-one mentions him. Everyone I know is still in agreement that it was a great record, it's just not 'cool' though is it?
This was a band who only a few years ago were battling Metallica for the number one slot. Skip to the present day and their third album spends one week at number 41 before disappearing.
What's strange is that I could never understand why anyone liked Glasvegas in the first place as it sounded like pretty dour, tuneless stuff. As such, I can't understand why they're now largely ignored...
Arms in the air, emotional lyrics, scream them out loud tunes. Geraldine, Flowers and Football Tops, Daddy's Gone etc.
They went away for too long after the first one, touring loads and taking too long with the follow up. When they came back the next record was rubbish. No-one's been interested since then which is a shame but the record label should have got the pacing right rather than getting them to try to crack America and be the new U2.
(well i was disappointed).
couple really good songs but i think especially considering how much they stepped up this year in terms of festival slots and stuff (not really in the UK but pretty much everywhere else) you'd expect them to have made an album with a few more actual hits on it.
that said, i think its probably about as good as the two albums previous to wolfgang and bankrupt! only oughta be considered a marginal 'flop' in the light of the previous album.
like it was produced with an Atari 2600 or something. 'Entertainment' sounds like a copy of a cassette rip from the radio
I love Bankrupt!... and on first play I thought it was a big disappointment. I actually prefer it to Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix now.
A really disappointing album, awful sounding with forgettable songs, and a real step backwards.
No idea about sales, though
It was a waste of a tenner.
what high profile artist released an album this year and it seemed to disappear from memory overnight. There has been more this year then ever before which doesn't bode well for long term longevity of many acts.
Anna Calvi was quite strange considering how much attention that first album got. New one is an improvement but it kind of just came out then disappeared. Other contenders:
MGMT-another shocking one. It's actually an interesting record but I don't think anyone wanted to spend time with it but to think how ignored this was when even Congratulations had people talking about for quite some time.
Also I would say there have been so many high profile releases that many artists just got buried due to over saturation.
"Also I would say there have been so many high profile releases that many artists just got buried due to over saturation".
True. 2013 was a very rich year for good/great/excellent albums.
it's not nearly weird enough to be interesting nor catchy enough to be memorable. The whole thing sounds very forced (though less so than Congratulations, in my opinion.)
in terms of what I was hoping for and what I got. Didn't help that Pusha T came out near the same time and is a stone cold classic.
had such high hopes for it, but the hooks really let it down imo.
if it was just Pusha, and those beats, it would have been an album of the year contender.
I've learned to enjoy the hooks tbh.
Only dud track is sweet serenade but thats mostly chris browns fault.
need to get on that
I haven't listened to it, but the concept behind it was vomit-inducing. And right off the back of last year's dreadful Mumps Etc. What has happened to that guy?
I admit that I can't imagine anyone else relating to or necessarily enjoying it as their favourite WHY? song or anything, hence not really understanding it being a widespread release, but for me the concept was far from "vomit-inducing" - the (surprise) present was actually the darn nicest thing anyone's ever done for me and I love it.
I guess it's a pretty nice sentiment if you're one of the lucky ones. It's just that I find Yoni Wolf is at his best when he's writing songs about himself.
I was merely pointing out that the songs were far more personal for the people they're about and not really aimed at the public (which is why I'm not in the least surprised it was critically slated, and why I am quite surprised that it was made a widespread release in the first place).
For me it's amazing, because my husband had one of my favourite bands write a song about us, and all the lyrics make sense to me. For anyone else it's probably a saccharine WHY? duffer. Either way, though, I don't find the concept itself vomit-inducing: for one, the money my husband spent winning the bid from our Golden Ticket - it wasn't a small figure - was all donated by the band to charities involved with the Japanese tsunami relief.
considering the debut spawned a couple of massive singles this one seemed to sink without any hype whatsoever. i'd wager that most people don't even realise they have a new album out.
The Feeling put out an album last month
Try as I might, it just isn't doing it for me.