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Arctic Monkeys - AM
David Bowie - The Next Day
Disclosure - Settle
Foals - Holy Fire
Jake Bugg - Jake Bugg
James Blake - Overgrown
Jon Hopkins - Immunity
Laura Marling - Once I Was An Eagle
Laura Mvula - Sing to the Moon
Rudimental - Home
Savages - Silence Yourself
Jon Hopkins, Laura Mvula, Jake Bugg, Bowie, Arctic Monkeys, Savages
the same people over and over. Laura Marling, Foals, James Blake, Arctic Monkeys. I mean I like all of those but it's just become so predictable. Would have been nice to see one or two surprises. And the Villagers album is just ok (you left it off the list).
Arctic Monkeys (3rd time)
Laura Marling (3rd time)
I think I've listened to everything this year - Laura Mvula is good and Holy Fire's alright, AM I haven't given enough time to yet. The rest weren't really for me.
Thought Sons of Kemet might get the token jazz nomination cause of Seb Rochford's involvement, but there doesn't seem to be one.
But then, he's been nominated before and Immunity is really great. It might win.
and she's really, really good - taking that horrible Emeli Sande sound that's around at the moment and doing something interesting with it. I hope she wins, or Jon Hopkins because he and King Creosote were robbed a couple of years back.
though that's mainly because they usually pick debut albums
John Hopkins is the only decent one on there. Bowie is alright, but really??
I was pleasantly surprised after dismissing them as chart fodder without listening. Its a superb album
The young guitar band Hookworms, who have won a loyal following for their noisy psychedelic rock, were among those who chose not to enter, in part for reasons of cost. "The nondescript thousands in marketing fees and physical product is even more shameful [than the entry fee]," tweeted their frontman, MJ.
overlooked band got a leg up by getting a surprise nomination. Almost all of these are commercially successful acts and it's tough understanding how Jake Bugg's album which is pretty much just rehashed Dylanisms that we've heard before get's it over a truly personal and musically rich album like Steve Mason. Or how another Laura Marling album that treads the same territory as her last two get's rewarded over something truly brave, different and adventurous as Field of Reeds (These New Puritans). Do the voting judges just have limited tastes and only notice high profile bands now?
has made them play it extra safe in recent years (the last few winners have all been hot favourites it seems)
but it'll probably be Disclosure or Foals
London Grammar. Not in the list?
i guess they thought too similar to the xx and alt-j
shame King Krule, These New Puritans and Steve Mason missed out.
Bowie or Disclosure will win i think
tweeted by These New Puritans last night.
They obviously entered and were then snubbed.
Calling it now.
Surprised not to see Daughter on their either.
they've apparently ditched the requisite jazz and folk nominees since their new deal with whoever it was and Channel 4. Shame.
('anyone who doesn't think so is a try hard indie bell end' etc.)
I don't really know what their original manifesto is; the list doesn't expose any *new* music, but if you judge it on the actual quality of the albums, it's a small step up from the usual tripe.
Patting various artists on the back is pretty useless; we all do it here but making an award about it is stupid. Those extra sales the lesser known acts get are the only positive.
and I can't remember what the original point was anyway. I swear it used to matter to me a hell of a lot in years gone by.
They're all very arbitary in the end.
Anyway I thought the Mercury was first set up to get some extra sales/publicity going during the slow summer months or something.
The best thing is that they've become at least slightly self aware and have dropped the token folk and jazz nominations.
I really hope Savages don't win. Jon Hopkins is clearly the best, but I'd say Bowie is most likely, cos they gave it to a debut last year, and everyone's obsessed with the whole 'returning hero' thing.
Really funny that London Grammar didn't get nominated, and I mean haha funny, because they're dreadful and all the people who thought they were a dead cert will be gutted.
PJ Harvey (x2), Antony and the Johnsons and Elbow are the only exceptions since Pulp won.
I need to listen to London Grammar now just to know what everyone's arguing about...
Is there a political angle I'm not aware of?
Not Brit awards MOR, but still very traditional and not particularly challenging stuff.
The Guardian list tends to be pretty pitchfork. You must be thinking of something else.
I guess "it's quite Jools Holland" would be a better way to describe the Mercury nominations.
Though looking at the Guardian's top 10 from last year- Frank Ocean, Grimes, Alt J, Tame Impala, Jessie Ware, Hot Chip... it's still kinda mediocre.
Three albums I really like (Bowie, Savages, Blake) and some other decent ones (AM, Disclosure, Jon Hopkins). Only a couple of yawn worthy ones (the two Lauras) and nothing really, truly awful.
Like it to bet on now. Had Mvulu at 28/1, but don't think she'll win now. Some strong names. Disclosure I reckon.
was sure quickly eclipsed by Arctic Monkeys
over Arctic Monkeys.
Mastercard have sold right out
they're all funded by the NWO anyway
the more you ignore it the weaker it unfortunately doesn't get
Should look up last year's. That was grim.
I think the thing that's getting to me is Jake Bugg. I know I shouldn't let it get to me, I should just ignore it.
some cracking tunes on there - he's no more derivative than Hookworms or someone, and he's accessible and sing-a-long if you want some light pop music to enjoy.
But I don't find him offensive at all.
He's obviously talented and seems like a decent bloke. Maybe one day he'll make some interesting music.
So why wasn't London Grammar eligible?
It'd be pretty obviously from this list that you have to drum up a wad of cash to enter this thing.
I'd love to see a list of all the albums that entered. It's difficult to consider something as a 'snub' if it wasn't even in competition.
Makes the whole thing totally redundant.
I quite like most of the albums on there, but can't help but feel that as indie music has declined in popularity, the Mercury seems to have become a lot more indie in terms of who it noms.
I really like Savages but the whole post-punk thing is just a little bit dated for me now. Also Laura bloody Marling, her first record was amazing they just keep getting beiger and beiger.
not in consideration for this? Or are they not British. Everyone loved that album when it came out.
it's easy to dismiss just how good, eclectic, and classic sounding that album was because of its cricket concept.