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are they Hadouken! now?
3 tracks in, doesn't sound much like Pixies really.
they haven't pulled a Smashing Pumpkins, it's pretty good on first listen.
more than Bossanova and Trompe le Monde.
that's a bold thing to say :3
Will probably enjoy it more after a few more listens. I really like What Goes Boom, and it's the only track that sounds like original Pixies.
Bagboy is still my favourite of the new Pixies releases though.
but it's all good. it doesn't smack at all of the formerly great band trying to recapture what they had. it might not all be signature Pixies, but it's all really good.
very pleasantly surprised.
Complete shit. Not even average at best. Forgetable tunes with no punch whatsoever. Hell, even their b-sides are way better than this.
Kim was completely right to leave and not be involved with this.
Very lushly produced, not really my thing. Will give it more listens. Really not keen on this whole new chapter of the band...
I think it's cool on a first listen, they'd sound a bit silly if they were writing songs like Tame at their age.
Not amazing but thankfully not really particularly shit either.
"Panamanian Schooner" voice, not quite enough skronking Joey guitars, and it's obviously missing some Kimvox, but the four songs are pretty good. What Goes Boom I really like.
The old quiet/loud dynamic seems to have been replaced by a sparse/lush one, which works pretty well.
Andro Queen is particularly good, as are parts of Indie Cindy.
Andro Queen would be a lot more enjoyable if it came in at No.3. When I first started listening, I thought someone had done an Amy Blue.
My preferred tracklisting.
1. What Goes Boom
2. Another Toe
3. Andro Queen
4. Indie Cindy
Whack in Bag Boy at No.2 and it'd be a great EP.
What Goes Boom
Anyone who thinks this is shit is being much, much too precious. Or hasn't stuck around until What Goes Boom at the very least.
And too young to realise that no matter what age you are, you'll always have just missed something great, and at the same time be living through something else great that people in the future will envy you for.
Funny thing about the review is that with lines like "the cheerily plodding power chords and excruciating rhyme scheme" it basically repeats criticisms of Doolittle that it lacked the harsh noise sound of the first two albums.
I quite like this. Not earth-shattering, but the last two tunes aren't bad.
Completely agree with that review. The EP is entirely shit and it should never have been released.
Not even ambitious, hubristic, tried-to-do-something-different-and-fell-flat-on-their-ass shite. It's just average everyday boring type shite. That Pitchfork review is annoying, but his description of the music as it "streams past like multiplex air conditioning" is right on the money.
...in many ways the gateway to the type of music I've enjoyed listening to most in the last 20 years. Which is mainly why I can't bring myself to listening to a Pixies song titled 'Indie Cindy'. I mean, 'Bag Boy' was bad enough...
I would take issue with the Pitchfork reviewer's assertion that it was Kurt Cobain's patronage that broke Pixies to the masses. They seemed to be doing pretty well before that happened.
but I don't know about the States? I think they supported U2 over there didn't they - which I guess would have done more to "break" them. But I remember watching a Pixies documentary and there was never any struggle - from the moment they first played together it sounds like it was obvious to everyone that they were brilliant and would be successful and would get record contracts.
As far as the EP goes, what's the difference now between a Pixies record and a Frank Black record? Is he perhaps choosing the former because it sells more? I've loved pretty much all his solo work. It's not ground-breaking, but he's 48 FFS, what do people expect?
I find his solo work a bit hit-and-miss to be honest. If he is choosing the Pixies name because it sells more than Frank Black's name on the front of a CD then unfortunately that means he's shifted the parameters of how it's going to be judged. Having said that, this doesn't seem like an all-guns-blazing commercial campaign so why bother?
...how is the title 'Indie Cindy' drastically different from, say, 'Ed is Dead', 'Oh My Golly' or 'La La Love You' etc etc? feels like the Pixies have a long tradition in vaguely juvenile song names to me.
personally, i never want to hear a band try to emulate the peak of their sound. that equals parody. all i want to hear is a band comfortable with where they are at any given point - unaffected. which is what this EP sounds like to me. and i like it. its been 22 years since Trompe. and thats alright.
your standards are low
...i don't mean 'comfortable' as being 'settled' or 'safe' - that, quite obviously, is just fucking dull. i refer to 'comfortable' here as being something 'honest' or 'ingenuous'.
but I have no interest in listening to this EP.
...just for Christmas, ya know...
"I'M NOT LISTENING!"
...that's your democratic right i suppose!
more along the lines of recent Black Francis than Pixies of old, but glad to see they're making new music. Without new material the reunion circuit is a pretty depressing scene
I can think of maybe three bands in the history of rock & roll that have still been good after 25 years. The rest are ridiculous and sad.
but I'm having trouble coming up with even one. Remember I'm talking about rock/pop, the jumping-around-with-a-Les-Paul kind of stuff, not Kraftwerk.
but the other three never stayed still, never really stopped. kept turning over band members whilst maintaining vitality and band ethics. The Ex were comprised of a completely different line-up at the beginning.
pop bands don't age well. even GBV with a maverick/drunk with an ageless quality like Bob have mostly lost that vitality.
but that goes for most young bands too.
if they go a darker route they can age gloriously; The Bad Seeds, Mark Lanegan, Wire.
Stringbean's held up well enough, I'd defend that last Bowie album and Tom Waits is a law unto himself. all in the minority of course but it can be done. of course there are people like Jane's Addiction and New Order pissing on their legacy with increasingly irrelevant albums. it's sad as fuck when you see that but musicians have to earn a living, particularly ones that got shafted first time around like the Stone Roses. and when we're all nicking their records off the net, I cant fault the old bastards for wanting to make some money on the festival circuit.
to me, the only slip-up the Pixies have done on the EP were those chugging frat-boy guitars on Another Toe. aside from that, I think it's good shit from start to finish. you're saying people are being nostalgic (I'm too young to have heard The Pixies first time round so that counts me out) but it works the other way; if you put another band's name on the EP other people would be more lenient. by all means old cunts should get the fuck out of the way for young bands, that's the nature of rock music but there's a self-defeating aspect to the cult of youth involved in taking the Logan's Run view of things.
I for one am quite interested to hear what this sounds like after 20 years of being apart. Plus, as a musician myself, I still want to be writing and recording music when I'm nearing 50, so I don't see any reason why these guys shouldn't.
I'm not saying people shouldn't do anything at all, go right ahead. But if it's rock & roll you're still playing at 50, then I reserve the right to find you sad and ridiculous. Rock & roll is about romance and energy and sex appeal and youthful dynamism, has been since Elvis, which is why it's so cool. But liking the paunchy old Pixies at 50, with their hopelessly dull EP (which, if it had been released by some unknown band, you wouldn't give it the time of day) is no different from your dad thinking that The Rolling Stones are still the awesomest band ever. In both cases, it's not really about the music at all, but about people pining for their own youth.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sad & ridiculous in my own ways. But blindly fetishising the bands I liked when I was 19 doesn't happen to be one of them.
this kind of music is the domain of *youth* culture. Frank should be mining some kind of Catholic take on Sun Ra's interplanetary jazz by now.
I suggest that all the paunchy middle-aged men in here still thinking it's 1990 or whatever give it up and embrace Eleven's jazz thread.
Nick Cave is seven years older.
should they fuck off to an old people's home too because their balls aren't pert enough any more for your liking? or should we listen to music on its own merit?
2. Nick Cave has been on autopilot for at least 15 years, and yes, it would please me greatly if he fucked off
Anyone holding up Cave as a textbook example of how to rage hard against the dying of the light is obviously spending more time reading his press than actually listening to his music.
the blind fetishising going on in this thread is outrageous. I mean, someone went so far as to say they "really like" it!
to be far worse than it actually is. That Pitchfork review suggested it was a band totally without ideas which it clearly isn't.
But without Deal it still doesn't really feel like Pixies to me so I'd say it is a reasonable effort for the remaining 3/4 of the band. And I think 'Indie Cindy' is a totally acceptable name for a song.
They're probably my favourite ever band, but this is absolutely awful. It just doesn't make sense. I'm a big fan of FB's solo stuff, but all four of these songs are dreadful. I just can't BELIEVE how bad Another Toe is. It's just all so generic, it's so strange that he's chosen to release this as Pixies. Hmph.
Frank Black even re-tweeted a remark I made calling him and Joey Santiago "Useless cunts".
Tweeting to Frank Black that him and Joey Santiago are useless cunts.
Or posting on here telling everyone about it?
Either way - really embarrassed for you, pal.
The EP tracks beside IC I could take or leave at the moment, though I don't hate it and it's definitely worth more than a 1.0. If there's going to be an album in this kind of vein I think it'll make for an interesting listen, if not something that'll be nestled snugly in my heart next to everything pre-Bossa.
I don't think it's as bland as people are making out either - the EP's a lot gentler than classic Pixies, but it's still got a lot of the hallmarks that made them unique like Frank Black's stream-of-consciousness ranting, and in truth it's not a million miles away from the more FM rock sound of Trompe Le Monde.
Pitchfork are awful for attacking easy targets etc. Pitchfork is awful full stop.
The autotune on the EP is a bit weird. Mind the Meat Puppets were autotuned on that last album too, maybe that's just the way things are going
pathetic man, must try harder
It's bland because it sounds like everyone else - the power chords in Another Toe and What Goes Boom are so generic and lumpen. The Pitchfork review referencing stuff like Weezer and Lit was bang on. Pixies always had more to offer than generic punk-pop singalongs. Gah.
I'd put it next to Bossanova for comparison, though, rather than TLM, but I get where you're coming from.
I though Bagboy was a brilliant updating of the 'classic' Pixies sound - classic Joey guitar, unhinged vocals, unpredictable structure, great dynamics - but with new touches we haven't heard from them before. Really got me hyped for more new stuff. But this EP is just so generic. Ugh.
Sounds like Semisonic. Can't remember how the first one went.
This doesn't mean I don't like it though.
I'm getting old.
will listen to what goes boom cos of this thread though
listening to "what goes boom" followed by "bagboy" thinking they'd be an awesome two tracks to open a full album with : (
Gimme an album ffs