Saw an advert for this on the tube this morning. Thoughts on it?
First Babyshambles album was really good.
It was so badly produced, it sounded like they totally rushed it
But it was our overlong, poorly produced mess. I still have a lot of time for it as it goes.
This new one is bland, that's the bigger offense in my eyes. In hindsight Shotter's Nation was completely unremarkable as well.
poorly produced mess tbf
when they were on form, they were good. Not legendary, but good.
Whilst having it's moments, suffered from the same lack of focus that impacted Down In Albion. Up The Bracket on t'other hand was tune, after tune, after tune.
We don't need every album to be MBDTF. Look at Surfer Rosa, sounds like arse, still better than 95% of your record collection. I think Shotter's Nation lost a lot of charm by going for an overall clearer sound.
it was OUR blah blah shit album
still shit innit
Overlong - doesn't neccessarily mean shit.
Poorly produced - doesn't neccessarily mean shit(cf. the eighties.)
Mess/ Messy - doesn't neccessarily mean shit.
To clarify - shit means shit.
The reason I put it like that was they inspired a fair amount of devotion at the time, the "our" was meant to reflect that.
It's not a shit album, it was just massively inconsistent. Take 4 tracks off it, produce it properly and make it in less of a rush, it could have been very good.
but overlong, poorly produced, messy and inconsistent = shit
as a colleague is playing it.
It's safe to say that his particular brand of damp whimsy is still not my thing and at song number 8 or 9 is grating as badly as ever...
I'd probbaly quit. Like, on the spot.
so I fired him after what felt like the 23498234987 mid-tempo shuffle/ska fart with limp singing about nothing.
It actually sucked the life out of me...
What an AWFUL album title.
it doesn't really go anywhere though. I truly passionately hated Babyshambles back in the day, really hated them. I couldn't understand why other people liked them, I remember thinking it was such an 'emperors new clothes' situation. I bet most of the people I know who liked them back then wouldn't admit it now.
still very little chance of me listening to it. lessons must be learned from the past.
from years ago, where it's just him sat in a bedroom, etc. there's always been amazing potential there for a completely acoustic, solo album. the time's passed now, and he should probably knock it on the head. get the impression he sees the records as just a means to an end cash-wise.
as for the band on the whole, i thought Patrick Walden was quite a good guitarist, people mightn't agree. there was the odd track which was splendid, like Man Who Came To Stay, stuff like 8 Dead Boys, or even Fuck Forever's decent musically (if not vocally). with him in the band they were okay, not great but okay. since he left they've been pretty tepid.
have only listened to this new record once. there's nothing on it that really stands out like his previous attempts. there was always an Albion or a Lost Art of Murder or something which really grabbed me, but nothing here.
They got massively less interesting once he left.
Also agree re The Man who came to Stay which is exactly as kik says, splendid.
i quite like the new record. It might be a slow burner.
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