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New album, new song: http://loscampband.tumblr.com/
What's not to like?
WHAT DEATH LEAVES BEHIND
A PORTRAIT OF THE TREQUARTISTA AS A YOUNG MAN
AS LUCERNE / THE LOW
LET IT SPILL
THE TIME BEFORE THE LAST TIME
SELLING ROPE (SWAN DIVE TO ESTUARY)
is 'avocado baby' an actual thing. there's a Wave Pics song with the same name, surely can't be a coincidence. had a google around and there is just some children's book that seems reasonably obscure (i.e. i don't recognise it) - possibly what they showed kids before i was born, though.
(the record label Kenickie were on) http://www.wipeoutmusic.com/artists/?artist=avocado-baby
I like it. Not a dramatic change of direction (for this song at least) since Hello Sadness, which is FINE BY ME.
cool, Slampt is cool as fuck as far as i'm concerned.
nice use of a neopet as the band image
It's a really famous book for young children, if you're of a certain vintage- I remember reading it a lot in the mid 80s
I quite like it. Looking forward to listening to it at a louder volume.
but I wholeheartedly agree.
But nope I'm ridiculously excited and tempted to pre-order again.
so as expected really.
You can kinda tell that they have less members now in their sound, but they can still write great songs, so all is good.
The first one had essentially started the band with them and he was basically told to quit. The way the band glossed over it and made him look the passive aggressive arsehole with Pavement-referenced obtuseness was a bit lame.
I just think being in a band is a bit more than that. He was your mate and to tear him apart from those experiences and to outcast him was a bit of a bully move.
And Jason, the new guy, seems to be a bit of a plastic sounding drummer. None of it sounds interesting or energetic enough.
He left the band in 2010 (I think?) and the post on their website announcing it had as its subject line a lyric from a Pavement song. In the song, the lyric is immediately followed by "Westie, he cannot drum". Don't think anything more than that has ever been said publicly.
Jason's drumming is more competent but I dunno if I prefer it.
This song is okay.
Doesn't really seem like they bullied him or anything. Probably just thought they should get someone who could drum. Either that or he had a massive gambling and opium problem, and if that's the case you have to say they've done him a favour by forcing him to confront his addictions.
meh, i dunno. really like all of their albums, and this song is alright, but it's just a bog standard Los Campesinos! track. feels like they are just treading water at this point, don't really see the point. not that i want them to 'go electronic' or be 'influenced by 90s R&B' or whatever but i really can't see myself getting excited by this new album
God I love this band.
Feels like a nice step forward, super catchy
Need to re-listen to Hello Sadness, soooon
Live dates announced next week.
is it me, or does the version on Soundcloud sound like it's been sped up or something? Gareth's voice is strangely high-pitched. Found it a bit weird.
Well I say "maturing" when really I mean it's completely different to Hold On Now, Youngster. Doesn't even sound remotely similar.
1) This is possibly one of their best songs yet. It's vibrant, it's potent, and that chorus is infectious as fuck.
2) I have listened no less than 25 times since I woke up, which included an hour where I just had my 'now playing' on iTunes set up to just be this song a whole bunch of times.
3) I've been trying to figure out what I want to do for a LC! tattoo, and I feel like the line "Death leaves behind love" is finally the one I've decided on.
4) That tracklist is silly.
5) I can't wait to see this song done live. The crowd will lose its collective mind.
not getting the monster from the you me dancing video instead.
they're basically Iron Maiden at this point
absolutely cannot wait for the album.
bringing all that stuff up about the drummer is such a dick move. If you don't actually KNOW what happened then why even bother to bring it up? Never mind that fact that being in a signed band is proper employment, so if he really was made to quit for no good reason, he'd surely be able to take them to court for unfair dismissal.
And I didn't mean to this in the first place.
clearly i'm not earnest enough for DiS :(
I'm not sure how unfair dismissal would work seeing as he was probably a self employed musician.
It's all speculation though, as you say, however the statement from LC! left a sour taste in the mouth, because it did come across as if they'd just been ruthless and sacked him from being a bit crap. That was after Ollie had put out a perfectly nice statement saying that he'd quit and I don't think a further statement from the band was really necessary.
so i doubt band members are any different. And obviously I don't know the sort of business/financial structure of Los Camp and Wichita, and neither do you. But clearly when you get into the realm of multiple recording contracts and licensing arrangements it becomes a little bit more complex than just saying "sorry pal, you're not in the band anymore". Then again, maybe they put him in a position where he had no real option but to decide to leave the band himself. Who knows/cares.
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5 // Clwb Ifor Bach, Cardiff
6 // Cockpit, Leeds
8 // Gorilla, Manchester
9 // Heaven, London
tix booked for manchester
Fuck spending £10 on a gig and £15 on a fucking train ticket to Cardiff.
AND JOANNA GRUESOME SUPPORTING!
Really want to hear the album. Also, I have tickets for the London Heaven gig. Roll call?
I'm going with my brother who, until Sunday, hadn't heard a Los Camp song that wasn't You! Me! Dancing! he's now a fan
it's most probably me. Los Camp never fail to do that to me. I'm such a loser.
can't wait, haven't seen them for a couple of years but I've seen them so many times and they're always so great.
Can't wait :D
great little mention for Joseph Desire-Job there.
Really loving the Joanna Gruesome album too so pretty gutted that I can't (realistically) make any of the dates.
Reckon they'll tour at all in 2014?
Read it here if you like; http://t.co/J7H5TH20fX
Avocado, Baby is the next single and it's completely ridiculous (also maybe the best thing they've ever done).
I've already listened to it more than Hello Sadness I think, and I liked that record too.
It really should be but it's fucking great
and it actually worked!
Can't believe it works
But this should be number 1.
didn't realise it actually WAS a cheerleading squad. such a fucking great song.
this is excellent
and I'm a big fan of chanting in songs so the final chorus and messy outro bit are fantastic.
love the cheerleaders.
Seriously lining up to be album of the year!
Especially amazing considering they have 3 albums in my all time top 20.
Given their reputation for consistency, I have very very high hopes for this album.
they've smashed it. Can't wait for this to pop into my inbox.
Best thing they've done by quite a distance.
Pre-gig drinks may be in the cards.
Why have I no friends who want to go to the Heaven gig?! *Sobs*
there's loads of DiSers going. We're a very friendly bunch.
Hope you all enjoy faintly depressing chat about my ex-girlfriend and why she won't get back with me.
when is the album finally coming out?
Apparently earlier than that for us who have pre-ordered the bundle through their website.
half of that avocado song is basically just a more expensive production job and an american accent away from being something by like adam lambert or 30 seconds to mars or something.
Rest of it is just a slightly more lo-fi version of something the temper trap or some shit do all the time.
Have you ever actually listened to Adam Lambert/30STM (though I wouldn't really blame you if you hadn't)? I can't see how its even slightly like that.
But you're probably trolling, so yeah, have fun with that.
Pre-order NO BLUES by Friday and you'll receive download of the full album on…MONDAY #NOBLUES
just went to pre-order, so I could have the advance download, but P&P to Aust. is 8 fucking quid!
Really enjoying my first listen through. Cemetary Gaits - Wow
Been listening non stop ever since. It's really quite good. Some of it is hard to adjust to, because it plain and simple feels busier than every other LC! record, but I still love it.
Hope that helps.
a bit more Hello Sadness than I was expecting, and I really do miss the female vocals, but it's a good length, and I did notice a couple of tracks besides the singles — which were standouts for the obvious reason that I've already heard them a couple of dozen times or more each.
Reading the lyrics it's completely astonishing how far Gareth's come as a lyricist as well.
Really really enjoying Googling all the football references :D
I need some people to chat about this to...
It's quite chirpy, more chirpy than Hello Sadness, but not as mad as Romance is Boring. I do miss the call and response female vocals too.
Emailed to change it, Gareth said it was easier to refund it and do it again. But I still can't do it, because I still have the same issue. Hmmmmm.
But I think the download has come through anyway... curse my attachment to physical items.
Really rewards multiple listens, keep catching bits of songs and swearing they weren't there the last time I listened. His lyrics really have stepped up again, he even got in that Yeboah volley refence. Brilliant. Pretty certain this will become my favourite LC record. I'll stop now before I gush too much.
That last track is dead triumphant isn't it
I'm in love with the last track, it's so dark now I'm familiar with the lyrics but it's so climactic and triumphant at the same time, I think it's the track that sums them up best and what I love so much about them.
'There's no hip-hip-hop-hooray
keeping Heaven's golden-barbed gateway,
no bright confetti, high-step march, ticker tape parade
There's no mound of clouds to lounge on,'
Also the last lines of the last song on its record, also a song about suicide, etc
This has completely clicked for me now.
Just, how do they do it every time?
but enough with the football references, please.
I get that complaining about Gareth's lyrics is a bit like saying Dylan is a bit nasally. A lot of the writing is really good on the LP, but I just don't really like the overuse of football references because it just seems to be trying a bit too hard.
Glue Me, The Time before the Last Time and the two singles are all into my Top 10 LC! songs.
A lot of his lyrical references go way over my head but the football ones just land and sound like someone who loves football writing about what he knows. I get why a non-football fan would think they're a bit try-hard in the same way that someone who isn't particularly well-read (like myself) might think that about literary references but they sound completely genuine to me, he captures the perfect heartbreak that football can cause so well and nothing counts towards their brilliantly tongue-in-cheek but heart-on-sleeve misery quite like it as far as I'm concerned.
But I like the references. Its obviously something that means a lot to Gareth and therefore helps him articulate the lyrics. Plus, they can be nice little semi-humourous asides in otherwise bleak passages.
has been in my head all day.
IN THE ARMS OF SHE WHO LOVES ME
Cant believe this came into my inbox at the weekend and I didn't know. BUZZING WITH EXCITEMENT.
all the girls I have loved
I bloody love the delivery of that song, the same the last word of every line is held onto.
Is it just a weird coincidence?
"Paint me like one of your fence girls, stood erect as a post, head to toe in creosote"
Fence, *King* Creosote.. I'm probably looking into it a bit much. I'm on my first play through. It's bloody wonderful isn't it?
Will listen again!
I just didn't think it sounded like he said French. I listened a few more times and then googled it, a couple of lyric sites seem to agree that it's fence. Obviously that's just fans like you and me guessing.
Line is: "Draw me like one of your fence, girls, stood erect as a post, head to toe in creosote"
really? That's clumsy.
yes, I thought it was to do with Fence records too maybe.
I can see this being my album of the year by some considerable margin after one listen. Its definitely the most I've enjoyed an album after spending so little time with it in a very very long time. For Flotsam, Glue Me, & Cemetary Gaits are probably my standouts (that aren't the singles) atm.
it's good enough, but even after 5 or 6 listens the two pre-release tracks are by far the standouts: the only songs with massively hooky choruses and the only ones that really recall the LC! of yore. Overall, it's on a par with Hello Sadness, which is similarly an album with two tracks that tower above the remaining — competent but not quite enthralling — tracks on the album.
Still, What Death Leaves Behind and Avocado, Baby are sublime additions to my Essential LC! playlist.
it's more that I'm so used to LC! coming up with songs whose hooks and energy leave me beaming and babbling that that's mostly what I expect from them. Quite content to have 2 or 3 songs an album which break that mould, but with Hello Sadness and the new one, the "maturer" tracks are not breaking any moulds because they now *are* the mould (so to speak).
I love each and every song on that record. It's pretty much perfect for me.
(I absolutely HATE Who Fell Asleep In from RIB though, a massive blotch on an otherwise stellar record)
In a note I wrote:
"I think too much about the end, but being around it made me feel like I'm coping.
Now when I view the cemetery I don't see headstones,
I see rows of engraved milk teeth, hungry, waiting for me"
And though I am fearful, I think I just crave the relief
The music. Bloody hate it. It pains me to skip it but I just have to :(
It kind of sounds like a subpar Paul Heaton song to my ears- and I love Paul Heaton.
To Tundra is comfortably the standout of the last record for me and it barely registered in the first week or so of owning it.
sounds like a CBBC presenter singing the outro to Mclusky’s ‘She Will Only Bring You Happiness’?
The melody is exactly the same.Glad someone else noticed this also.
^s'my new favourite lyric
"Leave with all the dignity of missed Panenka penalty" is pretty damn good too though.
As Lucerne/The Low's my favourite at the moment. Especially the chorus.
and the lowwww IS WHAT I CAME FOR
to baaaask IN A DARKNESS I DO ADORE
^fucking absolutely joyful music with heartbreaking lyrics. Everything I love about Los Camp. Perfect.
I think the last track is the most triumphantly bleak thing I've ever heard though, to write a track which is pretty literal in it's description of a suicide and have it culminate in a massive, catchy crescendo about there not being an afterlife sums them up so well.
It kills me that people write them off based on the early twee stuff (which I still like a lot) because they've matured into a genuinely special once-in-a-generation type band as far as I'm concerned.
Is they've grown as I've grown.
There aren't many bands that I can apply that to quite so clearly given I first found out about them by Gareth posting the demos up on the forums for the game I now work on (another reason I love all the football references).
I sometimes find myself wondering whether I love them so much just because it's been fun and novel seeing them progress from day one but it's just because they're genuinely fucking brilliant.
Hope the haters upthread see it.
namely the middle section. just feels a bit LC by the numbers, which is something they've never been before.
still, got the usual handful of great songs from it so that's fine.
Hah! Loads of different things going on, especially stuff stopping almost mid-song and something completely different happening (Let It Spill, I'm looking at you), and obvs the cheerleading.
COS THE QUAY IS SEA MINOR WITHOUT YOU
"draw me like one of your French girls". But now I've realised it might be "draw me like one of your fence girls", as there's something about creosote in the next line, and it sounds more like it? Hope there's a lyrics sheet in the CD version!
My favourites are Cemetery Gaits, As Lucerne/The Low and Avocado, Baby. Can't wait for those live!
you could have a HELL of a #NOBULES-themed holiday, couldn't you? Capel Celyn > Eyam > Meurig Park > Lucerne > Galilee.
Just didn't grab me. Took about a dozen listens and now it's all I want to hear.
Is he taking the piss or actually quite angry?
If it's all meant seriously seems a bit...overly nasty.
Can come across as (more than) a bit of a dick on Twitter though, yes.
Kind of like when Falco got all angry at that Pitchfork review of 'The Plot' and I felt a bit, "Just leave it, man, leave it".
Just spied Gareth's reply to you on Twitter. Personally think he's spot on.
I wonder if it got deleted. Probably just dodgy email. Maybe the new site will actually let mods be able to help people change their account emails and the like!!!!
Not sending something that someone's paid for is illegal though, ain't it?
but it's not very cool to publically say that's what you're going to do. :/
Gareth's said he's refunded the guy. :D No problems.
Also: I had no idea the watermark thing was a real thing. :D
Really applaud his move of sending the mp3s out to those of us who'd paid for it as soon as he noticed the leak.
A BAND OF THE PEOPLE!
is that somebody uploaded a 192 copy a few hours before the 320. might be a transcode, but apparently it looks good. but either way, if that person didn't upload the 320, the 192 would have got just as many snatches and been circulated among people outside of the community who care significantly less about the difference between 192 and 320.
so i'm just saying, the person who uploaded the 320 didn't actually limit its distribution, they just introduced it in higher quality.
but i know, it's the principle of it.
to see how it fits in with their back catalogue, y'know.
Fuck me, it might just be the strongest back catalogue ever.
Should be on Spotify and that now, so do we have any other fans please?
God I love this album. My Last.fm is showing 130 Los Camp plays in the last 7 days.
It's a really good write-up
also odd it says it's their strongest, yet RIB and WAB,WAD got 8.3 (think Hello Sadness got 8 as well)...
1. It says 'LC!’s strongest release since their staggering 2008 two-fer Hold On Now, Youngster.../We Are Beatiful, We Are Doomed'
2. It's one writer's opinion. They probably didn't write the other reviews and may not agree with the exact ratings out of 100.
Still loving it to bits - every song is a corker. Possibly their best yet......?
(Trequartista, The Time Before The Last Time) but they've since clicked and completely make the album a whole I think. Dunno if it beats Hello Sadness for me though (yet).
how the fuck could I dislike a LC! song where the main singalong bit does WE ALL KNOW WE'RE GONNA DIE WE'RE A FLECK OF DUST IN A BAD GOD'S EYE. S'gonna be so good live!
when I read the lyrics
I doubt they'll play it, but if they do, it may actually drive me to tears.
but what are the setlist predictions for the gigs? What do you wanna see played?
especially As Lucerne/The Low, Cemetary Gaits, Selling Rope (Swan Dive To Estuary), Avocado, Baby and What Death Leaves Behind.
Other than that I'm still waiting to hear We've Got Your Back live. One of my favourites and I've not seen it live, to my knowledge.
but, you know, in a good way.
Saw them open with it once, so so good.
Other songs: I Just Sighed, Selling Rope, To Tundra, Heart Swells/PDT.
I don't know wtf is going on
I think it's a *really* great video.
Can't imagine the amount of blocking and rehearsal they went through for it
It's bloody fantastic. Well on the way to being my favourite.
the first half is so strong, and the lyrics get better with every listen. Can't help but feel that it might be an even better album with the two Heat Rash #4 songs on it (She Crows is SO GOOD) in place of Let It Spill and Trequartista, mind. Still great though. Absolutely cannot wait for the 9th December.
What a cock-up from the manufacturers! Can't wait for it to arrive though.
with Gareth that you might like to read. It was a really nice chat and came out well I think. Thanksbye.
It's good stuff, nice work pal
Great record and you should have told him so.
outside of the top 100. What a shame. The single sounded like it could attract some new fans.
it'd be just outside the top 40 or something like that.
not chart registered.
I'm still waiting.
mine turned up today.
It's very pink, isn't it? The Heat Rash issue is superb <3
didn't even order the vinyl. Should I be concerned?
I still don't have mine but apparently everything was sent out last week. Really hoping it'll be there tonight :/
on the end of year lists. Total undervalued band.
(though im not sure it is my number 1...), due to my sadness that it doesnt seem to be recognised :/
No Blues, Hello Sadness and WABWAD were all released October/November time. I don't think that time of year really works for end of year lists. Magazines and websites have already started preparing their lists and to shove something that has only just come out really high up might seem like jumping the gun a bit. I think people like to sit with an album for a few months before deeming it worthy of ALBUM OF YEAR contender. Like, yeah it's good on initial listens but is it gonna stick with me type thing? It is weird with Los Camp because all their records are really well received critically.
The setlist on setlist.fm looks incredible.
Who's about for some drinks from 6ish? Got any pub preferences? I was thinking the Lyceum purely cos it probably won't be busy and you know, Sam Smiths.
fidel_catstro and nice_squirrel will be around too so if Lyceum is the plan I'll let them know to meet there in case they don't check here. 6 sounds good, so glad I've got the day off today!
You have to say he has been absolutely rinsed there. He'll be disappointed with that.
but undeserved of all the abuse he got from mental HAIM fans after. Still pretty hilarious though. He's just tweeted this: https://twitter.com/grthdvd/status/409990293447258112
in reply about the CGI in the Hobbit absolutely floored me.
Would've been better if the Haim fans had chanted "ex boyfriend, give us a song" though
JG will be on at 8pm according to Heaven site, if people are aiming to see them.
Not too bothered by JG, I have to say. Even so, it takes 10 minutes to get to Heaven from the Lyceum.
Was in a complete state right from the off as For Lucerne / The Low is my fave off of NO BLUES. Sad that there was no Selling Rope. Feels like they have a proper "core" setlist now, doesn't it?
OH GOD I LOVE THEM SO MUCH
They really are bloody great aren't they- first time I've seen them at a non-festival gig since 09.
Best Band <3
And this was one of them.
What was the song that played as they came on? Quite liked that.
EXBOYFRIEND BOYFRIEND GIVE US A SONG! as well, but for whatever reason there wasn't.
Gareth looked really chuffed. He also looked ecstatic when everyone sang along to the Yeboah line.
a bit of Knee Deep and Selling Rope but other than that they played a belting setlist at Manchester.
We've Got Your Back (which I don't think I've seen them do despite seeing them 5 or 6 times) and also Life Is A Long Time.
I've never gotten that or In Medias Res.
And I'm pretty sure I've seen them do it in Oxford too.
can't imagine a show where they don't end with Sweet Dreams.
(plus kinda wish they'd do away with YMD now)
I think that was in 2008 :')
I had my OH I WAS A BIRD RIGHT THEN singalong all ready :(
Would have been the bomb!
but, yeah, seemed sort of odd to not end with Sweet Dreams - definitely one of the songs on HONY that holds up best.
(or Death to Los Campesinos) but I really enjoyed both last night. They sounded really beefy.
They do kind of have to play them though (especially in a festival situation)- I took my bro along, and he only knew a handful of songs, mainly ones from Hello Sadness, and he loved them playing those live.
ended with Broken Heartbeats Sound Like Breakbeats.
It was so WEIRD.
Hope when (if?) they do another tour for the album next year they play the few songs off it that they didn't last night - The Time Before the Last Time and Selling Rope are two of the best, I think.
Heart Swells/PDT was really, really good.
never thought I'd see that one live.
They're so bloody good, as others have said, no Selling Rope was a blow, was really looking forward to that as a set closer, next year hopefully.
Anyone else find the sound really hit and miss though? The old stuff was all fine but all the new tracks were absurdly bassy, couldn't hear the vocals for them.
The drums were pretty overpowering at points, too - not sure if that was a mixing problem etc.
Are a lot more intense than the older stuff but they seemed to use the same levels regardless, meant they drowned out a lot of the rest of the band at times.
Cemetery Gaits was the worst-hit I think. Thought the sound was decent by and large though.
Awesome, awesome gig anyhow. Close to being a perfect setlist.
and played You'll Need Those Fingers For Crossing. Can anyone confirm? Maybe my favourite song of theirs.
according to gareth on twitter
Source: was there
definitely best album: 'time before the last time' definitely their best song
look at this setlist from the current us tour !!
(I asked on Twitter. Would be amazing if they did, but apparently was just the sound check)