Your are viewing a read-only archive of the old DiS boards. Please hit the Community button above to engage with the DiS !
You must be reading something quite different.
That's fairly racist to me.
The racism throughout the whole article is screamingly obvious, though. Denigrating an entire genre that originated in black communities, because it's about 'vomit, violence, blood, and dark depression', which are actual experiences faced by poor people and BME people all the time, is very very clearly racist.
Going to leave the thread before it just turns into people shouting, but anyway I think this article is racist, and that that should be clear to anyone upon one read.
I'd put a disclaimer on your own post about Pink quick.
Having looked at this a couple of times, he seems to have an issue with rap on the basis that it doesn't relate to his life, and an old white guy doing that is inherently racist, or at the very least a race-related issue.
I'm going to go now, but it is worth having a look at the article again, because I think it's really obvious almost straight away. I get that it's not his main point or reason for writing, but imo it's still there.
I casually dismissed two entire genres of music (rap and metal) and I was only 13!
MARLON: Rappers are idiots Roscoe have you noticed their not singing! It's because they can't not because it's an artistic decision they've made that requires a different set of skills. They're idiots Roscoe not like Pink Roscoe Pink is one of the best contemporary entertainers. I mean just listen to her original sound and her innovation that is borderline avant-garde but isn't because you can't describe it with a label not even the label of avant-garde and I'd like to add that there are no hip-hop influences whatsoever in her work especially not her early work. Because hip-hop is what rappers do the foolish conmen they can't even sing Roscoe
ROSCOE: Marlon what are you saying? What sources have you been reading?
MARLON: Nothing Roscoe this is just what I think about music. Well me and my new friend Barry Primsall
ROSCOE: Barry Primsall who is she?
MARLON: HE is a guy I met at the bus shelter because he was eating a packet of Golden Wonder and I said can I have a Golden Wonder and he said no you can have TWO GOLDEN WONDERS. I was swept off of my jaundiced feet Roscoe by his uncompromising wit
ROSCOE: I dont like you associating with this man. He is obviously a giant bellend whose opinions are irrelevant and his daughter is going to be really annoying when she's 18 and joins her university rock society talking about how wicked U2 are and getting annoyed at DJs who don't play AC/DC or Motley Crue every other song
MARLON: Actually now you mention it he does have a face like a shit Joe Pasquale
BARRY PRIMSALL: Hey Marlon you wanna come to my house I've got The Dog Who Saved Christmas on DVD and I thought I've had this film for ages why not kick back on a fine August evening like this and watch it with my new chum
ROSCOE: Marly Marl doesn't want to come to you condo
BARRY PRIMSALL: Marly Marl? I believe that is a hip hop reference go to hell you fat sack of batteries what is the meaning of this
ROSCOE: I've reprogrammed his mind from yr jam hot brainwashing
MARLON: He's right either you change yr opinions about hip-hop or Imma let you finish watching the Dog who Saved Christmas on your OWNSOME
BARRY PRIMSALL: GERR FINE I shall let you try and convince me
(MARLON ROSCOE and BARRY PRIMSALL go upstairs to learn about hip-hop)
MADLIB: And that's how you can make a beat on an MPC sampler
BARRY PRIMSALL: Wow now I can sample my favourite Pink and U2 records
PEANUT BUTTER WOLF: Too right, Barry, that's be great to hear. In fact here's a contract so you can release music on Stones Throw Records
SOLE: No he's signing to Anticon
JAY-Z: Nah Def Jam mate go on
BARRY PRIMSALL: Whoa whoa whoa hold on fellers I aint ready for all this yet I want to remain pure
ROSCOE: Aren't you glad we educated you Barry Primsall
BARRY PRIMSALL: For sure! Uh... I mean... FO SHIZZLE
EVERYONE IN THE ROOM: Har har har har
(later in the mysterious hotel room)
MICHAEL PARKINSON: It appears that fighting Marlon and Roscoe may be harder than we had first thought. They have Barry Primsole on their side
SHADOWY FIGURE: They do not know yet the significance. Hopefully they will never learn of his true power
MICHAEL PARKINSON: Well we were able to see from Marlon's temporarily being brainwashed that they will - now we gave them the tainted Sunny Delight - be more susceptible to our... indoctrination plan
(SHADOWY FIGURE steps out revealing her true form)
DENISE WELCH: That is very true Michael. We have only to wait
needs more TERROR MAN; otherwise inch-perfect
genuinely considering collating all of them because I think I've become obsessed
TO TUMBLR WITH YOU
It's exemplary of more than the usual cycle of older generations dismissing the expression of younger generations without bothering to try and understand it.
That can be excused except when the same thing hasn't already been done when people started listening to blues, pop, r'n'b, jazz etc There is a precedent for this, and as such to use words like "deviant", "lecherous" and the waspish little "sic" which refuses to give this music artistic space, is more than just being excusably out of touch, it is racist.
is primitive and meaningless.
- wrap it up.
^ straight from the DiS shaking the habitual tour thread
also yeah obviously racist
Love, love me do
You know I love you
I'll always be true
So please, love me do
Whoa, love me do
I'd like to see one of your DJ Hip Raps or your Little Wallaces come up with that kind of content
Would pay to see the look on his face in a couple of years time when his daughter is inevitably bumping and grinding to her new Minaj CD.
with the '(x) in (y) shocker' framework
think about it
Old fashioned opinion in standard unimaginative internet reply shocker
but i *think* the idea was that the suit doesn't understand rap lolz
And let him write an article.
1. Rap is an asylum for slightly agitated nobodies
2. A heavily tattooed commentator
3. Whole crops of drugs
4. Staccato speech about vomit
There will be a thread tomorrow.
there's no context at all, he just sort of ploughs in like he was some pissed bloke down the pub 'yeah, modern music's shit because it's all rap, Pink is quite good, but even she's shit. Yeah.'
especially this bit
"Nights In White Satin is my all- time favourite song, while the Beatles remain my all time favourite group. Sorry - band."
the names Barry Primsall
an I'm here to say
Rap's so shit and its totally gay
I walk down the street
with a song in my feet
a proper one with lyrics
and cool guitar licks
none o that rap shit
cause I'd rather have a fit
whut whut whut
THIS ISNT THE REMIX
whut whut i-said
whut whut whut
wyooowwww wa wyoooaaaoooww