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Guitar music dead!? Biffy at no.1

Noblet [Edit] [Delete] 56 replies 09:49 February 4th, 2013

So Biffy snag 70k sales(Puzzle and Only Revolutions first weeks combined) and the no.1 spot on the charts...aside from this being kind of surreal (even if they aren't quite the same band they used to be) it surely suggests guitar music is in rude health?

(funeral for a friend no.34 with Conduit...which is cracking)

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Not really.

White Lies have had a Number 1 album.

_TheBeautifulOnes_ | 4 Feb '13, 09:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
its akin to razorlight getting a number 1

TheKennedyCurse | 4 Feb '13, 09:55 | X | ^ This | Reply

_TheBeautifulOnes_, theguywithnousername, waterwings, and JaguarPirate this'd this
- How is it?
  
  Oissin_ @TheKennedyCurse | 4 Feb '13, 12:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Beacuse they are as bland as balnd could get now.
    
    justanothersheeldz @Oissin_ | 5 Feb '13, 09:11 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - I think that's unfair on Razorlight
      
      They're much more interesting than Biffy are these days. Look at their collection of hats!
      
      guntrip @justanothersheeldz | 5 Feb '13, 14:12 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      MajorCriiimes and heartbreaktuna this'd this
  - well biffy have got to number one by becoming as commercial as possible
    
    music by numbers
    
    TheKennedyCurse @Oissin_ | 5 Feb '13, 16:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
I got into Biffy over the last week

by listening to Infinity Land for the first time. I've only heard Black Chandelier off the new one which is a bit naff. I think I like this band though.

yuggy | 4 Feb '13, 09:58 | X | ^ This | Reply

dacbo this'd this
- Yeah, Infinity Land is a masterpiece.
  
  Oissin_ @yuggy | 4 Feb '13, 12:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - The first three I think are about level with each other
    
    All of them worth getting, possibly 3 of my favourite albums ever.
    
    aactv @Oissin_ | 4 Feb '13, 17:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
Is it a bit churlish of me to suggest guitar music would probably be better off being dead than being represented by MOR shite like Biffy Clyro?

(Please note this isn't a backlash to them getting popular - they've always been rubbish)

theguywithnousername | 4 Feb '13, 10:15 | X | ^ This | Reply
It's February

twentynine | 4 Feb '13, 10:22 | X | ^ This | Reply
if biffy are at number 1 then guitar music IS dead

cat_race | 4 Feb '13, 10:24 | X | ^ This | Reply

justanothersheeldz this'd this
their new stuff doesn't strike me as being that different

to the pop punky metal stuff that was popular in the early 00s and a lot of you probably still enjoy a bit of that.

They don't strike me as being a bad band at all. Could be worse.

yuggy | 4 Feb '13, 10:31 | X | ^ This | Reply

Oissin_ and aactv this'd this
double albums work best when used as an opportunity for a band to sound their most ambitious

considering this, it's ironic that biffy clyro's double lp shows them at their least ambitious and most MOR.

BarryShitpeas | 4 Feb '13, 10:53 | X | ^ This | Reply
oh good, this topic again.

shadyadie | 4 Feb '13, 10:54 | X | ^ This | Reply

Severed799, pichaelmarker, SCROTUM, JaguarPirate, and heartbreaktuna this'd this
popular doesn't mean that it's alive and well

if the music is stale and unengaging

haven't the fratellis had a number one album?

soapy | 4 Feb '13, 11:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Are you seriously comparing Biffy to the fucking Fratellis?
  
  The new album probably isn't great (I don't know, I can't be bothered to listen to it), but what the fuck?
  
  Oissin_ @soapy | 4 Feb '13, 11:50 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  Noblet this'd this
  - only in that
    
    having a guitar band at number one is nothing new
    
    soapy @Oissin_ | 4 Feb '13, 12:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - People are still discussing the Fratellis in 2013?
    
    Jesus
    
    MajorCriiimes @Oissin_ | 5 Feb '13, 17:40 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - *BTW that's not a patronising 2YO
      
      MajorCriiimes @MajorCriiimes | 5 Feb '13, 17:40 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - haha, bad typo
        
        BTW, that's not a patronising "YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FRATELLIS!" post. I'm just surprised people still remember them...
        
        MajorCriiimes @MajorCriiimes | 5 Feb '13, 17:45 | X | ^ This | Reply
SWEET FUCKING EVERYTHING GUYS GUITAR MUSIC WAS NEVER DEAD OKAY

guntrip | 4 Feb '13, 11:40 | X | ^ This | Reply

SarahIsPi this'd this
- ARE GUITARS DEAD?
  
  Severed799 @guntrip | 4 Feb '13, 12:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - ...
    
    <POKES GUITAR WITH STICK>
    Hello, Guitar, can you hear me?
    <LIGHTLY TAPS STRINGS WITH AFOREMENTIONED STICK>
    <GUITAR GOES "PLINK">
    Yaaaaaay!
    
    Fucking hell, I dunno, Biffy are the Peroni of popular guitar bands, it's kind of hard to have an opinion about them. Not a single song of theirs can I recall in their decade plus existence. I don't hate them but I've no real wish to listen to them. But it's nice for them to be No 1 and I'd rather they were than some manufactured payola star/starlet strumpet....
    
    amyblue @Severed799 | 4 Feb '13, 13:29 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - as biffy were once one of my favourite bands
      
      I'm glad they've found success and they seem to be happy with that. Their music isn't for me any more but it's a nice story all the same.
      
      Severed799 @amyblue | 4 Feb '13, 13:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      JaguarPirate, Murder, Noblet, gonad, and thorners this'd this
    - Not a single song of theirs can I recall in their decade plus existence
      
      Alright, simmer down Yoda!
      
      I agree with your point though.
      
      StormsOnTheMoon @amyblue | 5 Feb '13, 09:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      calumlynn this'd this
it should always be celebrated

so what if was in a week of poor releases? the label and marketing team carefully choose this so it's a winner for everyone involved.

mrdaniels | 4 Feb '13, 12:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
- except the seventy thousand people who bought a double album of terrible music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  guntrip @mrdaniels | 4 Feb '13, 12:54 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  Severed799 and ethricdouble this'd this
  - It's probably not that bad.
    
    Oissin_ @guntrip | 4 Feb '13, 17:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
Errrrrrr

I mean the entire internet just went mental for the new MBV album, I think guitar music's doing aight

lukowski | 4 Feb '13, 12:56 | X | ^ This | Reply
this thread was doomed from the start

quick, everyone, back to the 'those who haven't heard new mbv yet one'!

Severed799 | 4 Feb '13, 13:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
have we forgotten Jake 'The Bugman' Bugg?

Jordan_229_2 | 4 Feb '13, 13:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
Only thing that makes guitars relevant on this board is...

A thread for hardcore, metal, noise and generally heavy music in 2013 that could be a roller, I guess: http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4422984

Otherwise we're in some kinda My Bloody Valentine neverland where they're the newest hottest band around alongside the Breeders, Arab Strap, Radiohead and Fleetwood Mac who all made the front page of the forum today alongside this bag of arse, most of the day.

Check out the hot young guitar slingers everybody! Rude health...

jimitheexploder | 5 Feb '13, 00:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
- zzzzzzzzz
  
  guntrip @jimitheexploder | 5 Feb '13, 08:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  justanothersheeldz this'd this
- ^likes dubstep.
  
  Jordan_229_2 @jimitheexploder | 5 Feb '13, 10:48 | X | ^ This | Reply
- -
  
  Nestor @jimitheexploder | 5 Feb '13, 11:20 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I'm just teasing
    
    that thread is ace tho.
    
    You got any suggestions Nestor? You've always had good taste in teh past and its been ages since I saw you suggest anything.
    
    jimitheexploder @Nestor | 5 Feb '13, 13:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - i've been absolutely crap at scoping out music for a good 18 months
      
      just tend to find something i really like and have that ridiculously on repeat til i find the next thing. must listen to about a fiftieth of the music I listened to a couple of years ago
      
      that phase right now is pretty much joyce manor who would probably be up your street if you like that thread
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4HrKZmxerE
      
      Nestor @jimitheexploder | 5 Feb '13, 14:28 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - That was alright
        
        Kinda like this one too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KesjqVaY-e0&feature=share&list=ALYL4kY05133oKw4bMflGm7Gfjelq21tXc Will keep an eye on them cheers. Really liked your music blog too man, shame you aint into it as much anymore, ah well big ups.
        
        jimitheexploder @Nestor | 5 Feb '13, 14:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
biffy clyro seem like nice young men

i'm happy they've made it big despite not really liking their stuff anymore.

gonad | 5 Feb '13, 13:58 | X | ^ This | Reply

JaguarPirate this'd this
when people say guitar music i always assume they mean indie bands

not meat and potatoes rock music like this, which is sadly omnipresent. it's not surprising at all that this got to number 1.

calumlynn | 5 Feb '13, 14:13 | X | ^ This | Reply
- omnipresent?
  
  I can't think of any bands who jump straight to mind of being a similar stature and sound to Biffy in the UK
  
  soapy @calumlynn | 5 Feb '13, 14:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  Noblet this'd this
  - Muse?
    
    _TheBeautifulOnes_ @soapy | 5 Feb '13, 14:36 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - so meat and potatoes
      
      soapy @_TheBeautifulOnes_ | 5 Feb '13, 14:41 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      _TheBeautifulOnes_ and SCROTUM this'd this
      - I'd say they're more like a slightly pretentious restaurant now
        
        Where everything is translated into French to make it sound more exotic. Like a Macc Lads album being called "biere, amour, frites et jus."
        
        MajorCriiimes @soapy | 5 Feb '13, 18:08 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - my point is, it's just anthemic earnest rock music
    
    which always manages to sustain a level of popularity, whereas waves of trendy indie bands come and go (yes, even Razorlight were, at the time, considered trendy by some folk).
    
    And I'd say that Muse are pretty meat and potatoes in their own way. All the "Wow, falsetto! Spaceships!" stuff is pretty shallow and aesthetic, at their core they just make anthemic earnest rock music.
    
    calumlynn @soapy | 5 Feb '13, 16:03 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - and by omnipresent i mean
      
      at any moment in time, regardless of trends, there always seems to be a reasonably popular rock band or two. I didn't mean that there are loads of Biffy-esque bands around at the moment. Perhaps omnipresent was the wrong word. Sorry.
      
      calumlynn @calumlynn | 5 Feb '13, 16:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - in that case i agree with you
        
        broadly speaking there has always been a certain kind of big rock which is perenially popular and biffy have tapped some of that vein.
        
        soapy @calumlynn | 5 Feb '13, 16:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        calumlynn this'd this
I bet Fearne Cotton likes them

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Mandela | 5 Feb '13, 15:40 | X | ^ This | Reply
- i believe they did
  
  an acoustic set in her kitchen over christmas......
  
  money money money
  
  Noblet @Mandela | 5 Feb '13, 15:54 | X | ^ This | Reply
As someone completely unfamiliar with Biffy's early music

Could someone else explain what it sounded like and why, back in t'day, people thought it was so good?

MajorCriiimes | 5 Feb '13, 18:06 | X | ^ This | Reply
- the first album was anthemic grungy rock music
  
  then they did an album with a rude drawing on the front that didn't sound as 'thick' but was leaner, faster, yelpier, spikier and punkier
  then they did an album which took the most uncomfortable moments of the second beefed the sound back up again, sprinkled on some 'weird' effects here and there and the odd big chorus
  then for the albums they've made since the sound has basically been a much slicker more refined version of what is on the first album but now with string sections
  
  soapy @MajorCriiimes | 5 Feb '13, 18:20 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Cheers.
    
    Haha, apart from the "string sections" that sounds exactly like a chronology of Nirvana and Foo Fighters albums!
    
    MajorCriiimes @soapy | 5 Feb '13, 19:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - their first album was influenced a lot more by stuff like mineral
      
      then they experimented with time signatures (to a degree). it was never simply riffy stuff like nirvana or the foos until Puzzle.
      
      ithica @MajorCriiimes | 6 Feb '13, 08:07 | X | ^ This | Reply
      
      Severed799 this'd this
works on contingency?

no, money down!

guitar music: dead,
biffy at no 1.

codpieceface | 6 Feb '13, 08:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
I don't care what other people listen to

TheComedian | 6 Feb '13, 08:42 | X | ^ This | Reply

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