can anyone just quickly explain to me what genre of music frank ocean makes?
you know, doesn't have to be one word i guess but fairly succinct
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oh ok cool
i suggested that on this very forum once and got called racist. nevermind
sounds like you got trolled
are people collectively trolling me now?
they're that threatened they need to team up?
just had to look back
the exact point was i said something about GZA being the only live hip hop i had ever seen and then someone wee'd in their pants
idk whats going on here
no, me neither
i just remembered this whole thing where someone said i was racist and just wanted to check that i'm still not. i just don't understand hip hop and rap and stuff
It's not hard to understand, pal.
Hip-hop and rap are the same thing, let's start there. What do you want to know?
where does R&B fit into this?
Where does r&b fit into rap?
It doesn't really, at least from their origins. One features singing and one features rapping. R&B originally came from blues, rap came from emceeing over disco music.
It should be noted that
classic r&b and modern r&b have a very different sound.
Modern stuff can def blur the lines with rap ie guest rap verse on r&b songs and even the beats can be very similar.
One of my favorite artists ever does both:
Devin the Dude - Do what you wanna do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S934vXHR5-o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKXflPq2fU
they're not though?
When referring to a genre they are.
They are used interchangeably When talking about the actual meaning of the words then yeah I guess there is a difference. Hop-hop can reference the more overarching culture while rap is just the specific act of rapping.
though you got over that one c_r
here it is in all it's glory. was meant to be a bit of a tongue in cheek dig, but whatevs. theo's input is lol-able.
http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4416354#r7044438
LOL
Yeah c__r its time to learn a thing or two about music.
right you are friend! i know nothing about music
Well, not r&b and rap anyway.
I'm sure you know plenty of other stuff.
no need for the link, i've already read it
i was hoping it had faded from public memory a little bit because i wanted to know what people genuinely thought about it.
also how come everything is about getting over something?
idk man
you already got 'under' the question in the first reply. he makes what is widely called r&b. he incorporates elements of soul, funk, hip hop & dance music, but essentially doesn't veer far enough away from the r&b template or what other r&b singers are doing to warrant a new genre.
there seems to have been a little confusion over whether we need a new name for something just cos indie kids like it now.
As if you've seen me.
claaaaaassic
Rap.
Radiohead
Oceanic
*Seapunk
R&Noise
wuss rock
sex music
Patchy
headband soul
I wonder what he is covering up on his forehead
another eye
he should set that thing free
unless it doesn't have an eyelid and he needs to keep it protected
PBR&B
Nah that's HTDW
surely just as applicable to Frank Ocean?
silly term though, just made me titter a bit
Def funny,
but HTDW doesn't sound like FO to these ears.
I guess I meant more in terms of stereotypical listeners
Than the music itself. I know lots of people who listen to both HTDW and FO (and Miguel probably) because it gets bummed by pitchfork, but practically nothing else resembling R&B.
Fair enough.
Cant deny that.
Rhythm and Blues.
Grind
:D
Good tagging folks
Stellar work to get "Cats and cats and cats" to be followed by "... and Oceans".