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Details of the 'Mellon Collie...' reissue have emerged....

spiritofjazz [Edit] [Delete] 68 replies 22:43, 2 October '12

MELLON COLLIE AND THE INFINITE SADNESS is being released in multiple physical and digital configurations, including an expanded 5CD+DVD Deluxe Box Set (also available digitally) and the remastered original album in 4LP Vinyl, 2CD, and digital formats. The Deluxe Box Set’s 5 CDs include 64 bonus tracks of previously unreleased material or alternate versions of MELLON COLLIE era songs, and its DVD features a live show filmed at the Brixton Academy, London (1996) and bonus performances from the German music television show Rockpalast (1996). It all comes housed in a 12 x 12 lift-top box with magnetic closure, reimagined cover art and velvet-lined disc holder. The package includes 2 books containing personal notes, lyrics, new collage artwork, plus a Decoupage kit for creating your own scenes from the MELLON COLLIE universe. The bonus content and special features were curated from the band’s archives by CORGAN, and have been painstakingly remastered for the first time from the original master tapes by Bob Ludwig.

DELUXE BOX SET:

– 5CD +DVD
– Physical Tracks: 106, Digital Tracks: 92
– Original album remastered for the first time
– 64 bonus tracks of previously unreleased material or alternate versions of Mellon Collie era songs
– DVD featuring live show filmed at the Brixton Academy, London (1996) and bonus performances from Rockpalast (1996)
– Housed in a 12 x 12 lift-top box with magnetic closure, reimagined cover art and velvet-lined disc holder
– 2 books containing personal notes, lyrics, new collage artwork plus a Decoupage kit for creating your own scenes from the Mellon Collie universe.

VINYL

– 4LP (180gram), Original album remastered for first time, 28 tracks
– Remastered vinyl features the original record spread out over 8 sides (4 LPS) for the first time to ensure the optimum sound
– MCIS never before released on vinyl in the US (original vinyl previously released in the UK)
– Housed in 12×12 rigid slipcase with 2 books containing personal notes, new collage artwork, lyrics and more.

2CD

- Original double album remastered for the first time
- Physical and Digital Tracks: 28

TRACKLISTS

Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness

Dawn To Dusk (CD1)

Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness
Tonight, Tonight
Jellybelly
Zero
Here Is No Why
Bullet With Butterfly Wings
To Forgive
An Ode To No One
Love
Cupid De Locke
Galapogos
Muzzle
Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans
Take Me Down

Twilight To Starlight (CD2)

Where Boys Fear To Tread
Bodies
Thirty-Three
In The Arms Of Sleep
1979
Tales Of A Scorched Earth
Thru The Eyes Of Ruby
Stumbleine
X.Y.U.
We Only Come Out At Night
Beautiful
Lily (My One And Only)
By Starlight
Farewell And Goodnight

Morning Tea (CD3)

Tonight, Tonight (Strings Alone mix)
Methusela (Sadlands demo)
X.Y.U. (Take 11)
Zero (Synth mix)
Feelium (Sadlands demo)
Autumn Nocturne (Sadlands demo)
Beautiful (Loop version)
Ugly (Sadlands demo)
Ascending Guitars (Sadlands demo)
By Starlight (Flood rough)
Medellia Of The Gray Skies (Take 1)
Lover (Arrangement 1 demo)
Thru The Eyes Of Ruby (Take 7)
In The Arms Of Sleep (Early Live demo)
Lily (My One And Only) (Sadlands demo)
1979 (Sadlands demo)
Glamey Glamey (Sadlands demo)
Meladori Magpie
Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness (Home Piano version)
Galapagos (Instrumental/Sadlands demo)
To Forgive (Sadlands demo)

High Tea (CD4)

Bullet With Butterfly Wings (Sadlands demo)
Set The Ray To Jerry (Vocal Rough)
Thirty-Three (Sadlands demo)
Cupid De Locke (BT 2012 mix)
Porcelina Of The Vast Oceans (Live Studio rough)
Jellybelly (Instrumental/Pit mix 3)
The Aeroplane Flies High (Turns Left, Looks Right)
Jupiter’s Lament (Barbershop version)
Bagpipes Drone (Sadlands demo)
Tonight, Tonight (Band Version Only, No Strings)
Knuckles (Studio outtake)
Pennies
Here Is No Why (Pumpkinland demo)
Blast (Fuzz version)
Towers Of Rabble (Live)
Rotten Apples
Fun Time (Sadlands demo)
Thru The Eyes Of Ruby (Acoustic version)
Chinoise (Sadlands demo)
Speed

Special Tea (CD 5)

Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness (Nighttime version 1)
Galapagos (Sadlands demo)
Cherry (BT 2012 mix)
Love (Flood rough)
New Waver (Sadlands demo)
Fuck You (an ode to no one) (Production Master rough)
Isolation (BT 2012 mix)
Transformer (Early mix)
Dizzle (Sadlands demo)
Goodnight (Basic Vocal rough)
Eye (Soundworks demo)
Blank (Sadlands demo)
Beautiful (Instrumental-Middle 8)
My Blue Heaven (BT 2012 mix)
One And Two
Zoom (7 ips)
Pastichio Medley (Reversed extras)
Marquis In Spades (BT 2012 mix)
Tales Of A Scorched Earth (Guitar Overdub mix)
Tonite Reprise (Version 1)
Wishing You Were Real (Home demo)
Thru The Eyes Of Ruby (Pit mix 3)
Phang (Sadlands demo)

DVD

Live at Brixton academy, London, 5/15/96

1. Tonight, Tonight
2. 1979
3. Zero
4. Here Is No Why
5. Thru the Eyes of Ruby
6. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
7. Jellybelly
8. Silverfuck
9. Disarm
10. Bullet with Butterfly Wings

Live at Rockpalast, 4/7/96

11. Fuck You (An Ode To No One)
12. Muzzle
13. Cherub Rock
14. X.Y.U.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!

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FUCK indeed!

It looks amazing to me. One of my favourite albums of all time but I just know this is going to be an expensive one. I really just want the live show. Have the original on LP. To be fair the unreleased stuff is a pretty mouth watering prospect as well.

hanshotfirst | 2 Oct '12, 22:49 | X | ^ This | Reply
that live DVD looks massive

can't wait to feast my eyes and ears on all that SP loot

oh_gerardus_MERCATOR | 2 Oct '12, 22:59 | X | ^ This | Reply
jesu maria...

ethricdouble | 2 Oct '12, 23:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
Very, very exciting.

Was looking at how much people pay for the original 3xLP version of this on eBay. £550! Still won't part with mine.

DeadJames | 2 Oct '12, 23:19 | X | ^ This | Reply
I hope the artwork isn't reimagined too much, it really put me off the siamese dream reissue, dont mind a new slip case or something but changing the actual album cover is changing part of the album, but probably going to contradict myself completely now, I hope the tracklisting of the vinyl is changed to match the CD because that is the album I know. Either way I am definitely getting this, still one of my favourite albums and many of those b-sides are as good as their best songs

ThingsThatFly | 3 Oct '12, 00:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I hated the artwork too
  
  I thought the Gish and Siamese Dream reissues just looked shite. And I've been so far a little put off by the price for those, so I've not bothered. But this, and the Aeroplane Flies High box set when that comes out, I WANT WANT WANT!
  
  sparkysdream @ThingsThatFly | 3 Oct '12, 01:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - reissue artwork
    
    was ugly as sin
    
    ethricdouble @sparkysdream | 3 Oct '12, 14:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
- the vinyl tracklisting
  
  makes much more sense to me...
  
  anyone know prices?
  
  Matt_was_taken @ThingsThatFly | 3 Oct '12, 10:08 | X | ^ This | Reply
WHEN

JustJay | 3 Oct '12, 00:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
- December 3rd
  
  FlintyFoxy @JustJay | 3 Oct '12, 00:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
You know

IF they got the 2000 lineup back together... Corgan - Chamberlin - Iha - Auf Der Maur (think D'Arcy is a lost cause) ... and did a no bullshit, straight up proper tour of stuff from this album... I think that might be my number one realistic reformation wish. Was SO disappointed when I saw them at Wembley back in 2000, just absolute pish. However, a bona fide two hour hits show of Mellon Collie and Siamese Dream stuff would be amazing, even now.

This release looks wellll cooool but I bet it is gonna be mega expensive.

dan_thw | 3 Oct '12, 01:17 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I saw them on the Mellon Collie tour in '96
  
  And I'd love to see a proper reunion and Mellon Collie/'hits' tour now. But Corgan would never go for it. And he'd probably call us both dicks for wishing it to happen!
  
  sparkysdream @dan_thw | 3 Oct '12, 01:51 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Dicks.
    
    Both of you.
    
    billycorganmynameis @sparkysdream | 3 Oct '12, 09:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Yeah, I think Corgan has gone on record saying he would never do a show where he played an album in full
      
      Think it was when Gish and Siamese Dream reissues were out (or could have been that masterpieces thing with Zane Lowe). He said he didn't see the point in it.
      
      : (
      
      hanshotfirst @billycorganmynameis | 3 Oct '12, 09:59 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - Lolz
        
        The latest tour, they actually HAVE been playing Oceania in full and chucking a few "hits" on the end for good measure...! Ah well, wouldn't be our B0lly if there wasn't a good measure of self contradiction involved.
        
        That box looks fucking awesome, the original "weird" 1979 demo, Towers of Rabble, their cover of Isolation, yes :D I do wonder if this covers the Aeroplane box as well, plenty of crossover there (pastichio medley with reversed extras!!??!).
        
        Ahem, I was at the Brixton show (got the last return from the box office on the day, was so ecstatic I jumped up and down much to the bemusement of the box office girls), though had to leave before the end so this makes up for it big time. The version of Silverfuck on there I hope isn't cut as it's a good 20+ minute version and it's a good 'un. And I hope they left a clip of James doing the Firestarter too, he went mental and started screaming and doing the Keith dance.
        
        This is going to cost a kidney isn't it...
        
        amyblue @hanshotfirst | 3 Oct '12, 10:44 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        Doesn't surprise me at all
        
        Like you say - wouldn't be Billy without the self contradiction or just general ballbagery
        
        hanshotfirst @amyblue | 3 Oct '12, 10:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        There is still going to be a reissue of Aeroplane.
        
        Or so I've read.
        
        kurtrussell @amyblue | 3 Oct '12, 10:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
- The last album was pretty good.
  
  LOLpop @dan_thw | 9 Dec '12, 15:28 | X | ^ This | Reply
Aeroplane reissue will happen

They recorded constantly around Melancholy and Adore, there's *plenty* left in the vaults.

Teepee_uk | 3 Oct '12, 11:34 | X | ^ This | Reply
Just what this album needed

more songs.

johneggfish | 3 Oct '12, 13:36 | X | ^ This | Reply

sadpunk, H-Stein, thewarn, and furio this'd this
Might get the vinyl for christmas, that digital version though

there's no way I'm ever going to sit through all that.

yuggy | 3 Oct '12, 14:33 | X | ^ This | Reply
This really does look amazing

...and as everyone says, will probably cost a packet. I would guess between £40 - 50

I wasnt aware aeroplane flies high was being re-issued as well...tho maybe i just forgot about it. I do find it strange, however, that they include songs from aeroplane on here...same as what they did on the gish reissue with plume i suppose

robellovich | 3 Oct '12, 14:40 | X | ^ This | Reply
had a look to see if this is listed anywhere yet, amazon.co.uk has the vinyl for £140, I feared it would be in that rgion, but interestingly the amazon.com listing has it for $73 (£45ish), think it must be a mistake as the CD version is $136, I might order it just in case the price goes up

ThingsThatFly | 26 Nov '12, 18:24 | X | ^ This | Reply
- tower records has similar prices, weird, vinyl buyers get it cheaper for once
  
  ThingsThatFly @ThingsThatFly | 26 Nov '12, 18:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Isn't the vinyl just a reissue of the original album though?
    
    I don't think you get any of the extras. £140 for the CD version is really steep though...
    
    kurtrussell @ThingsThatFly | 27 Nov '12, 09:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - oh yeah, I hadn't noticed that, the sets looked similar so I assumed they were equivalent. Suits me though as I am not that interested in extras, but the packaging looks pretty well done so I can just about justify £45 for it though that is well at the upper end of what I think is reasonable, shipping and taxes might push it too far, good thing the exchange rate is favourable at the moment.
      
      Dont see how they can charge £140 in the uk but $73 in America, are they not aware of the internet
      
      ThingsThatFly @kurtrussell | 27 Nov '12, 10:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
£140 is a stupid and greedy price

Not even in scale with the other reissues that cost about £25? I set my maximum price for this at £60 and will gladly buy it for that when they find they have a rather big surplus of stock in a year's time. The DVD is a nice to have, and there is about ten of the extra tracks that are worth it but, fuck, when did Billy become Mick Jagger?
Add to this, James Iha is playing the Bush Hall next week, tickets are £20 + ticketbastard charges... again, would be nice to go but...

amyblue | 27 Nov '12, 09:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Woah, I never realised Iha was playing a show. I'd pay that for a ticket if he played Said Sadly.
  
  Unfortunately it clashes with Mark Lanegan at The Forum and Scott Kelly at The Black Heart. Busy night for gigs that one.
  
  drop_b @amyblue | 27 Nov '12, 11:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
Agree,

£140 is ridiculous. I've been checking Amazon over the last few weeks thinking it was a mistake, but no.

I got my Rage Against The Machine XX boxset yesterday: Remastered original album with bonus tracks, remastered 1991 demos, remastered album on heavyweight vinyl, 2 DVD's packed full of live/rare material, booklet, poster all in a nice 12" box. £63. A much more sensible price point.

NeuronsLikeBrandy | 27 Nov '12, 11:27 | X | ^ This | Reply
so Mr Corgan is in need of a retirement fund

This ladies and gentlemen is when file-sharing for free is perfectly acceptable. Watch and wait for the pdf's and flac lossless versions to go up. That'll do me.

kostenurky | 27 Nov '12, 12:25 | X | ^ This | Reply
- The sad thing is
  
  Billy doesn't need any more money. He could've retired 10 years ago. These prices are just pure greed.
  
  iaminterested @kostenurky | 27 Nov '12, 12:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
- ^this
  
  There's legions of fans that have followed Billy for over half their lives, since the reunion the mechanics behind it have got more concerning - yes they gave pretty much an album of stuff for free (with the option to buy the vinyl with a hand carved stone thingy! wow!) but since then it's been high ticket prices, another patchy new album, reissues with lavish packaging but no real content that raises the bar past 'curiousity' (so far) and this ultimate fuck-you-and-give-me-the-cash gesture.
  
  It's like that Super Sweet 16th show where spoiled rich brats make their friends and classmates go through "try-outs" to go to their fucking birthday party, corgan is saying 'to be a fan you need THIS much money, so you can get the box set, the vinyl, the VIP only pre-show show, the £30 hoodie, the £100 signed poster... else you're not a real fan'. There's smaller and better bands that I'd rather support.
  
  amyblue @kostenurky | 27 Nov '12, 12:52 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - I agree that some of those prices are ridiculous, http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/store/mcis-reissue/
    
    but find it weird that in amongst them the vinyl set is just about reasonable (not at the tripled UK price obviously), just seems odd, surely vinyl reissues are where the collectors money is at.
    
    ThingsThatFly @amyblue | 27 Nov '12, 13:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
I think I was wrong up thread about the re-imagined artwork, I really disliked the siamese dream and gish reissues because it took those albums out of the nineties which seemed strange for a reissue.

This one, even though the art is new it seems to work, the original art is in part of it but expanded on

ThingsThatFly | 27 Nov '12, 13:10 | X | ^ This | Reply
£140 for the vinyl set? It looks mouth wateringly sweet, but at that price they are fecking MAD.

nice_cookie | 27 Nov '12, 13:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
So the vinyl is £160 in the UK and $75 (£46) in the US?

It looks like a fairly hefty item weight wise, but i'm assuming postage won't be as much as £114! Might see if I can order it direct from the US and get it for about £60 all in.

BetterGayThanGuevara | 27 Nov '12, 13:30 | X | ^ This | Reply
OH MY GOD YES.

cocodaLOL | 27 Nov '12, 13:55 | X | ^ This | Reply
I've looked a bit more into this. The vinyl set is available for $75 through the SP store on their website, so we are other sites charging £140?

nice_cookie | 29 Nov '12, 14:06 | X | ^ This | Reply
- their own store and other american ones all seem to be around the same $70-80, all uk ones seem to be around £140. I know normally stuff generally costs more here, more tax and the cost of importing, but the gap here really is inexplicably huge. I can't imagine anyone paying that amount for it, surely anyone interested would shop around and soon realise they can get it alot cheaper
  
  ThingsThatFly @nice_cookie | 29 Nov '12, 14:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Well I just filled out details in the basket do see what postage would be, and in sterling it all comes to £55, so what is stopping people outside the US from just ordering directly through the SP store?!
    
    nice_cookie @ThingsThatFly | 29 Nov '12, 15:04 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Nothing, but you'll have to pay customs duty on top
      
      What records are doing the vinyl version for £75
      http://www.whatrecords.co.uk/items/58156.htm
      
      clarker @nice_cookie | 29 Nov '12, 15:35 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - yeah nothing, thats the weird thing as even with customs it is well worth doing
      
      ThingsThatFly @nice_cookie | 29 Nov '12, 15:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - I got
        
        the Sufjan xmas box direct from Asthmatic Kitty for the same reason. When I preordered it, Amazon etc. were asking for £45 and it cost £25 total to have it sent from the US. Amazon are now doing it for £35, but still...
        
        pmj1980 @ThingsThatFly | 29 Nov '12, 16:09 | X | ^ This | Reply
        
        Did that get a customs charge?
        
        And how long did it take? I'm wondering whether to go from there or amazon...
        
        NickDS @pmj1980 | 5 Dec '12, 09:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
You can stream the remastered album here.

http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds/spinner#/3

Doesn't really sound that much different actually. I think I'll pass on buying this.

nice_cookie | 4 Dec '12, 12:28 | X | ^ This | Reply
Pitchfork review is surprisingly insightful

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17389-mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-sadness/

monoshono | 5 Dec '12, 09:38 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I really enjoyed that
  
  made me want to rush home, grab some headphones, bust out Mellon Collie and pretend I'm 15 again.
  
  colossalhorse @monoshono | 5 Dec '12, 09:42 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  hanshotfirst this'd this
  - Yeah, after I read it I put "Tonight, Tonight" really loud on my headphones
    
    and nostalgia'd so hard that I got a lump in my throat.
    
    monoshono @colossalhorse | 5 Dec '12, 09:46 | X | ^ This | Reply
The remaster is totally on the money...

it's got a little bit more bite to it and they've cleaned up the muddy low end on Jellybelly/Ode to No One etc. The dynamic range is still great too; really subtle use of compression.

(and that evaluation is based on A/B testing the remastered 16 bit WAVs against the original cd)

Lucy_Faringold | 5 Dec '12, 10:37 | X | ^ This | Reply
didnt realise the $75 vinyl from their site comes with a download of the album plus the three bonus discs, makes the price seem a bit less steep (really wish i'd realised this before I spent £30 on the digital version just to get the bonus tracks, the 'exclusive artwork' with the digital version is a bit of a joke, 8 tiny thumbnails of the artwork)

ThingsThatFly | 9 Dec '12, 13:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
Doesn't warrant its own thread

but Billy's now hawking a shitload of Pumpkins stuff from back in the day on eBay: http://stores.ebay.com/Smashing-Pumpkins-Memorabilia

spiritofjazz | 9 Dec '12, 16:11 | X | ^ This | Reply
I ordered my copy of this from Amazon.com

and it had some surface noise on a couple of tracks, Amazon have given me a full refund but apparently this has been an issue with the pressing

Does anyone know if the ones bought in Europe were from the same pressing or if they suffer from the same noise?

seanneale | 9 Jan '13, 13:15 | X | ^ This | Reply
- I ordered mine from the band site, hoping it is an ok 2nd batch as there was a long delay before they sent it out but I somehow doubt it, probably too expensive to send back.
  
  How bad is the surface noise, and on which tracks? i've read it is worst on zero which im not too fussed about, but ive also read the whole thing has unbalanced stereo
  
  ThingsThatFly @seanneale | 10 Jan '13, 21:40 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - it's worst on Zero
    
    but it's also on the last song of side B. I didn't notice it on C or D and didn't listen E,F,G or H becuase I knew I was sending it back already.
    
    Hopefully yours is good!
    
    seanneale @ThingsThatFly | 11 Jan '13, 10:26 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - mine finally arrived, zero has got to be the worst sounding vinyl track i've ever heard, it sounds like draping a blanket over maxed out speakers and standing in another room listening, a truly shoddy reissue. If I had bought it in the uk I would send it back.
      
      ThingsThatFly @seanneale | 23 Jan '13, 20:28 | X | ^ This | Reply
who gives a shit?

horrible band. truly horrible.

theintl | 10 Jan '13, 09:02 | X | ^ This | Reply
- pah-leeeeeaaaase!
  
  hanshotfirst @theintl | 10 Jan '13, 09:43 | X | ^ This | Reply
- suck a fat one
  
  yuggy @theintl | 10 Jan '13, 11:13 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  spiritofjazz and monoshono this'd this
  - OK, I'll do that
    
    however, Smashing Pumpkins still stink.
    
    theintl @yuggy | 11 Jan '13, 08:24 | X | ^ This | Reply
    - Yeah, well that's, like, your opinion, man.
      
      monoshono @theintl | 11 Jan '13, 10:05 | X | ^ This | Reply
      - yeah, it like totally is, man
        
        I mean like, whatever.
        
        theintl @monoshono | 12 Jan '13, 08:32 | X | ^ This | Reply
- Free time or shitty hobby?
  
  Kind of strange someone who doesn't give a shit would bother pulling up this article & sifting through the comments.
  
  CrazyLikeWoah @theintl | 17 Aug '16, 02:47 | X | ^ This | Reply
  
  thewarn and pieces_of_reece this'd this
  - three years later?
    
    Severed799 @CrazyLikeWoah | 17 Aug '16, 09:51 | X | ^ This | Reply
  - Hi Billy
    
    thewarn @CrazyLikeWoah | 22 Aug '16, 09:45 | X | ^ This | Reply
It looks awesome

Some of the demos should be interesting indeed.

godisinthetv | 11 Jan '13, 04:57 | X | ^ This | Reply
I love this band

but this looks like a load of horsewank. You get an album that's already overinflated, packed with loads of studio scraps. Ace.

Tonight, Tonight (Strings Alone mix)
Tonight, Tonight (Band Version Only, No Strings)

If you pay them together, do you get a full version?

Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness (Home Piano version)

Why would anyone want to hear that?

Set The Ray To Jerry (Vocal Rough)

Corgan's vocals on a track tagged 'vocal rough'? No thanks.

Jupiter’s Lament (Barbershop version)

Fuck off.

sadpunk | 17 Aug '16, 10:20 | X | ^ This | Reply
Holy necro-bump, Batman!

FilthyLittleCreep | 21 Aug '16, 00:13 | X | ^ This | Reply

hanshotfirst and -dan- this'd this

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