Or Belle and Sebastian fans are as sexist as Limp Bizkit fans really
Yeah, I can believe that.
Christ what a terrible article.
typical poncey whining in the article.
Nothing wrong with wanting to get off with some cracking bit of totty on occasion.
Are (the fictional) Mark Corrigan and Ariel Pink...
So lets say that's one example. Not really evidence of a trend, is it? Terribly researched article.
as mentioned above, absolutely nowhere near enough evidence to make the statements it tries to make.
using mark corrigan, a caricature of "beta male" neuroses is weak, as is using quotes from ariel pink, famously a complete nightmare to have anything to do with.
the observation of the article, that men use women as part of developing their ego in relation to other men is, i think, entirely true, but in no way specific to this music scene. i think most men could probably think of times that they've recognised this unattractive impulse in themselves and been repulsed by it, which is why (fictional) mark corrigan is funny and why (fictional narrator os deliberately bitter) songs eg tullycraft strike a chord
that's great, and funny.
it's exactly the sort of thing which could at least use some thinking about
i remember a few years ago lambasting an indie sacred cow for seeming like "the kind of guy who uses feminism to control women". i've no idea whether i was right (i'm fairly sure deep down i was)...but, it's the same type of thing to someone who says they listen to Sleater-Kinney and Le Tigre as a chat-up line. most people are trying to appeal to others they're sexually attracted to, but there's always a creepy little "oh i'm on your side i'm a nice guy" bent about some parts of the indie pop, twee indie, whatever the hell you want to call it
and then, you've got the openly creepy who are past giving a shit, for which read "Stuart Murdoch"
and then couldn't be botheres doing the research or putting the effort in when it came to write it.
best i can do
because the girl advertising it was really pretty
I'm pretty sure this makes me a beta male misogynist
The preferred term is 'sniffer'. Much obliged.
but he's going to have to come up with more evidence than that if I'm going to believe it's based on anything more than the projection of his own views.
The article makes him sound like the gamma male to Mark Corrigan's beta. Perhaps in a few years we'll have one written by a delta male.
Think I'll hang on for the nu male 'movement'.