Anyone worried that this year...
...when the new Animal Collective album will be out EVERY damn music site will be flooded with reviews/opinion/etc like it would be the return of The Beatles?
I remember when their previous was released in 2009 almost EVERYONE mentioned this band THE WHOLE DAMN YEAR! I simply couldn't escape without seeing AC somewhere. Worse than Lady Gaga. It made me sick of simply reading their name.
Oh, and by the way: their music = pretentious nonsense bullshit.
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Gwen Stefani
*previous album
What you on about?
i'm sure if the albums good like MPP was lots of people are entitled to rave about it. Don't worry about it though if you don't like it just ignore it, its dead easy
not really
You're worried that there'll be loads of threads about Animal Collective
... so you've started another thread about Animal Collective. Good one.
This is not only about AC but AGAINST AC. There's a difference
Yes, the difference is that this thread is completely pointless.
Best way to stop people talking about Animal Collective
is probably to start a thread about them on an online music forum.
(Posted at the same time. Great minds.)
That's the only AC topic ever posted by me
And it will remain the only one
Don't think it will happen this time around
With MPP there was a real crescendo up to that moment, this sense of culmination of not just Animal Collective as a group but of them as the foremost representative of that sort of post-millenial scattered influences style, all amplified by the early release of `Brothersport` and 'My Girls` which were both brilliant tunes but also suggestive of an accessibility and crossover success.
They'll get coverage this time, but nothing so dominating - as the fashion has changed since MPP, I suspect they'll seem ever so slightly passe in late 2012 - I say this without having heard a single note of the album. I imagine the album will be really good, judging by their record, but just that the `moment` isn't with them so much anymore.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing
They've got quite a hardcore fanbase, and it's growing all the time. They seem to attract the kind of fans Radiohead have - people who actually a) buy the records b) buy the tickets c) look forward to everything they put out. They might lose a lot of the fairweather 'My Girls' fans but I don't think they're over by a long shot. I can see them maturing even more into a really fascinating weird pop band as they get older.
Their music really isn't pretentious, i don't know how anyone can say that
they're one of the least pretentious, openly emotional musical acts that there is around right now. If we use google definitions of prententious, i.e 'Attempting to impress by affecting greater importancetalent, culture, etc than is actually possesed' then that doesn't apply to animal collective in the slightest.
they never try and be anything they're not, they can make weird out there noisey stuff and they can also make glorious, beautiful pop music. i don't think i can think of another band that has a made a range of music from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSmuzEzeAeY to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc3vpmMgR6A to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5xqjqm-aGw.
you're really one of the most boring trolls on here. i mean you don't have any of the individuality or finesse that makes the finest trolls the finest trolls. you're just a boring, pretentious fucker
I dunno, I quite like them
but I always imagine them to be really boring hippie wankers irl.
Their story is kinda cute
Just a bunch of nerdy indie kids who meet each other in school from a young age, bonded over Pavement and quirky drawings and b-movies, then just kept jamming their way to become the best pop band of the decade. Kinda thing every nerdy indie school kid dreams of.
best pop band of the decade,
you say?
@happypenguin Fuck you! That's my finesse for you. I can write whatever I want.
Trying to defend this boring music is useless. Defending AC proves that the "pretentious fucker" is you.
"...they're one of the least pretentious, openly emotional musical acts that there is around right now". I'm crying now... How EMOtional, unbelievable! XD
BTW all penguins on this board are assholes? PenguinPants & happypenguin definitely are on this category...
hahaha, jobber.
I'm with hp
just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they're pretentious.
STOP POSTING.
I listen to music much more complex/difficult than AC. This band is worthless.
I will not stop posting just because you say that. Bye!
it's a joke
DiSism. whatever.
you don't understand them if you think they are worthless compared to 'complex' bands like fuckin' Garbage.
derisive snort.
What fuckin' Garbage are you talkin' about? Where did I mention that I listen ONLY to Garbage?
I see that AC is your 3rd favorite band. That explains your opinion.
BTW Garbage are 100000x better than AC. They know to make a great & memorable song. Not crap "experiments" like AC.
Music much more complex/rich/better than AC: Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, Brian Eno, Ozric Tentacles, Pink Floyd, Autechre, Slowdive, My Bloody Valentine, The Future Sound of London, Massive Attack, System 7, The Orb, Ott, The Avalanches, DJ Shadow, Ellen Allien, Talvin Singh, Recoil, Plaid, Tangerine Dream, etc. Beat that, snort.
you really have a tiny cock don't you
if you feel the need to have a willy contest. i'm pretty much guessing both me and by the looks of incandenza's general chatter that we could pretty much fuck you over musically. but because we're not cocks i don't think that's going to happen.
what are you like 15? get over yourself!
Fuck me over musically? With what? Your shitty taste in music? Fuck you!
Interesting how the discussion turned from music to "tiny cocks". Very lame Mr. shittypenguin, very lame. I will not discuss the length of my male organ here because it's not the right place. Instead I will dedicate this short video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDqaOLThPg4
hey i'm deep-blue and look at me waving my willy about
i'm waving my willing in the style of 90s electronic music. look at how old and frail it is, it's like a maggots corpse (which would be a good name for a deep-blue approved band)
i'm not even going to start on the fact all the music you mentioned are completely different to anco, they're from a different era and completely different genres aiming for completely different musicals goals.
how old are you seriously? this was like the kind of pathetic arguments that happen in 6th form. check out all the bands i know! look how big my willy is!
Tired asshole
Free Willy? Ha ha ha ha! You're too obsessed with your willy. Just like a 11 years old teen. Grow up.
"i'm not even going to start on the fact all the music you mentioned are completely different to anco, they're from a different era and completely different genres aiming for completely different musicals goals."
Too stupid, Willy? I didn't mention similar bands BUT "Music much more complex/rich/better than AC". Read the fucking text first! Don't twist the sense of my words.
Also your writing style is terrible. Eat your breakfast and do your fuckin' homework before talking to me, you arrogant prick!
you're extremely boring
bye
You too. Very boring. Bye.
yeah, hp is definitely the one with the bad writing style, here
oh, and my music taste is better than your music taste. something something a house in Ireland...sing it.
@Incandeza_ Unimpressed
Your music taste is boring. All Pitchfork approved artists are here. I bet your homepage is pitchfork.com. You need to listen to more Pavement.
bet you don't know who bruno pronsato even is
No. I'm not a music encyclopaedia.
Also regarding Incandeza_'s music taste: even if I can't stand him I agree that there's some good music in his last.fm profile, Pitchfork approved as it is.
glad we agree
end thread
see, my last.fm is only a partial reflection of my taste
dominated by stuff I rinsed when my listening habits were slightly less sprawling. and there was a year when I stopped using it altogether.
these days, I listen to all sorts, with less time for repeats.
also, I listen to lots on my phone & mp3 player, which doesn't get scrobbled.
plus, you don't know me to say you can't stand me
this is just a music board argument.
11 years old teen
ps if you want to inspect my music taste
here you go http://www.last.fm/user/menindrag
ohhhhh
menindrag, it's you!
yeah; deep-blue, you're out of your depth, pal.
sssssssssh don't tell anyone it's me
menindrag? You're kidding right? Ridiculous username.
Your taste in music? Standard stuff. Half the globe listen to Radiohead & Bod Dylan. Autechre and Boards of Canada are some artists that I really like. Except 3, I know all the artists from your top 20 overall.
douche chill
Ooooooooooooffffffffttttt!!!
I know you're just trying to stand up for your own opinions mate (which you are entitled to), but you're never going to win many fights by claiming that Garbage is a better band than anyone, that's just not possible.
I didn't claim that they are better than EVERYONE. Read again what I said. The context is important. Thanks.
I said that they're better than AC. Because incandenza_ brought them into "fight". Hope that now it's clear.
Oh no, I get what you said, I didn't mean that you thought they were better than everyone
I said thinking they were better than anyone was the killer.
deep-blue's top rated bands:
Garbage, The Stone Roses, Metric, Ladytron
SOOOOO COMPLEX
How fast are you at judging people! That's NOT all music I know and listen. Some of it was already mentioned in my reply to incandenza_.
And even Garbage, The Stone Roses, Metric, Ladytron are more complex, rich, interesting, better in every way than AC.
Don't compare crap experiments (AC) with great music.
ahahahahaha
just cos music is more complex and difficult doesn't make them better!
i mean i like cecil and nurse with wound and faust as much as the next eager music fan, but just because i like music that is incredibly complex and difficult to enter, doesn't make bands that are easy and simpler worth any less
pricks like you who think just because they've discovered free jazz or serialism or avant-garde rock or whatever you like feel the need to parade over everyone who likes stuff that isn't so esoteric! and why can't you get that maybe, just maybe, people that are into esoteric music like you obviously are, can like that and more mainstream bands like anco and radiohead.
stop being a dick.
I listen to music much more complex/difficult than AC. That's just about the most pathetic, pretentious thing i've ever heard
Crap!
"I listen to music much more complex/difficult than AC. That's just about the most pathetic, pretentious thing i've ever heard"
That was a reply to "you don't understand them". Like I don't understand AC because they're too complex/difficult for me to understand. Got it, happyprick?
willy waver
I hate pretensious music.
On the other hand, I love my more complex/difficult music.
haha
what do you mean about not understanding them?
this joker calls them pretentious
when they are actually pretty earnest and free of any affectations at all. and possessing more depth than just about any other band out there.
hmm. i like AC a lot
but they are a BIT pretentious. just a little, man. anyway, I'm outta here.
i like My Girls
You could always go back to the Amazon.com boards, you fucking gummy bear.
There are plenty of nice threads about Deep Purple for ya.
haha
nice insult. gummy bear you running where?
This thread once again highlights the stupidity in using pretentious as an insult,
jesus.generally people should use the term wanky when they say pretentious.
* avant jazz wank
Unpretentious indie rock
= bands that sound like Oasis.
'Here are The Kayas with their blend of unpretentious indie rock! Ready to give the music scene a kick up the arse!'
I think unpretentious should be the new insult.
This is true!
incadenza_ & happypenguin = a pair of douchebags
Wankers!
Don't bring douchebag into this!
VERY WORRIED!
No.
The hype for it has been rather minimal. Plus, it'll arrive at a time where pretty much every mainstream rock/indie band IN THE WORLD are releasing new albums.
Troll
No. I expressed my opinion. Should I ask you for permission to post something on DiS?
No, but I do prefer it when posters have an interest in the subject they are posting about.
You don't.
If you are worried about music sites being flooded with AC matters, don't visit them.
...or at least fuck off out of this one.
Did you fucking read my first post? I said almost EVERY music site.
"If you are worried about music sites being flooded with AC matters, don't visit them."
What music site should I visit without seeing AC ever again?
I don't give a toss.
You are wasting minutes of my life I will never get back.
(Last post on this thread)
Twat.
^^^^ Twat.
"I know what I likes and I likes what I likes!" - Popeye
So this thread took a hilarious turn then.
Don't cry deep-blue
Don't cry for me Argentinaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
(I'm laughing now)
I quite regret for opening this can of worms (aka this topic). But really these AC were everywhere in 2009 and I hope it will not be the same this year.
An admin should close this topic, please. I made my message clear.
How ironic that this guy's username is deep-blue
I don't see the irony.
BTW, your username is a bit silly.
It's the piano genius from the movie shine
you idiot.
So what? Did I ask you for your opinion about the secret meanings of shinymcshine username? Mind your business, idiot.
BTW I didn't see any Shine movie. Also I never heard of this movie.
Internet forum communications should be on the school curriculum
(AC are shite)
That line about 'best pop band of the decade'
Almost made me start a 'DIS Meltdown' twitter.
Can't be fucked though. YOU do it.
your posts are pretentious nonsense bullshit
Yeah, take that
Pretentious? My posts? Probably you meant someone else...
This doesn't fully relate to the thread title, but whatever...
I've never really liked Animal Collective. Their music has always struck me as boring and irritating rather than catchy and whimsical. And that's probably one of the more annoying things about AC. Their fans will swear that their music is actually relatively poppy, even though it's clearly not.
BUT my biggest pet peeve with their music is their lyrics. I swear, they're the most smug and self-important lyrics I've heard in my entire life. Someone screaming "I DON'T MEAN TO SEEM LIKE I CARE ABOUT MATERIAL THINGS, LIKE OUR SOCIAL STATS" really fucking irks me. It's one thing to care about family and value them above everything else in life, but to scream an ironically superficial lie is another thing. Because face it, human beings are naturally a little materialistic. And it's okay to try to shut those feelings out, but singing about it in such a direct and preachy manner really just highlights potential insecurities and a desire to appeal to easily impressionable people who don't quite understand how the world and humanity works yet.
And I do understand that AC are one of thousands of bands and artists who have criticized materialism, but at least those other bands and artists tend to do it in a less irritating and seemingly care-free manner. Like Radiohead does it a manner so overtly pretentious, that it's almost humorous to me. And bands like Green Day strike me as so naive, that I don't really mind if they do it either.
And it's not just those lyrics that relate to social issues that annoy me. The lyrics that are included in the majority of their work- ones about having fun in the summer- also bother me. I understand they might be enjoying themselves, but they don't need to hammer it into my head until I become nauseous. It's just annoying. They almost remind of those people whose life goal is to assure everyone that they're a happy person and then encourage other people to be "happier". Just shut the fuck up.
So that's what I think about Animal Collective. Not only do their soundscapes grate, but their approach to making music and writing lyrics is attempting to be so unpretentious that the finished product ultimately amounts to something much more superficial and pretentious than anything else being released today.
Maybe he really doesn't care about material things, like a social status
And actually just wants four walls and adobe slabs for his girls
LIES. PURE LIES I TELL YOU.
Sorry, I just think materialism is a part of human nature. Maybe I'm just that cynical.
Don't really care about Animal Collective either way
Just wanted to sign my name into this thread to say how stupid it is.
Also, remember someone in a previous thread saying that AC brought out their 'inner tribal side'. LOL.
...their 'inner tribal side? Ha ha ha ha!
There should be some sort of indicator by the side of threads (like the sticky icon)
That indicates where a poster within has completely lost it. This thread is a good example.
came here expecting a car crash
found one. cheers DIS :)
Animal Collective
...
Nah, just doesn't have the same ring as Radiohead
AC are fucking shite.
Real emperor's new clothes stuff. However, Panda Bear's Person Pitch album is fucking brilliant.
which emperor(s) exactly?
Panda Bear, though great, is the one whose influences are clearest. whereas AC are pretty original for the most part.
Can you and Mere_Pseud please stop posting?
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Me? What's is your problem? I opened a few topics so far. Nobody is forcing you to read them. Ignore them (and my posts) and read something else.
Can OvertakenByTractors shut his mouth and mind his own business?
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I'm losing sleep over it
You should resurrect this topic. Let it rest in pieces...
*shouldn't
(my fault)
Starting to think we need a thread devoted to deep-blue's wankiest posts
"I listen to music much more complex/difficult than AC. This band is worthless" is an instant classic.
Plus, it will answer his poignant need to be noticed by complete strangers on the internet.
Hey d-b how about a quick list of your Top 10 Complex/Difficult Bands. Anyone feeling intimidated at the thought of what challenging, confronting music he might come up with should log out now.
What about a thread about blisters' wankiest posts?
That would be much bigger...
I'm not impressed at all by your posts so far. Also you're booooooooring like hell.
PS: Your attempt to attack me is crap. Shame on you.
I can so clearly picture you
Enrolled in 2nd year of some wheel-spinning Humanities degree at a lower-middle-tier university, bit of a loner, cultivating some sort of sartorial hat/coat-related eccentricity that just makes you look like even more of a loner, had a couple of relationships but they didn't end well, probably not a bad guy underneath it all but just very insecure and taking advantage of online anonymity to try on a fearless, suffer-no-fools persona.
In other words, Internet Cliche #17. There's a small army of you out there.
A proof that you're not smart...
>>>"I listen to music much more complex/difficult than AC. This band is worthless" is an instant classic.
You took that thing out of its context. Let me explain you.
That was a reply to "just because you don't understand them doesn't mean they're pretentious."
What main reason could be to not understanding this band? I thought that complexity is an obvious answer. So I said that complexity couldn't be a reason to not understanding their music because "I listen to music much more complex/difficult than AC". Got it?
One more
It seems that you Blisters try very hard to become an enemy of mine. We didn't communicate too much before and yet you attack me quite often. If you have something against me, say if fucking now.
I don't have anything "against" you, I just find you absurd.
But also a little unbalanced. Calm down, I'll leave you alone.
I will stop talking to you
If you will do the same. Just ignore me. Thanks.
@admin(s): could you lock this topic, please? it's not useful anymore.
anymore
anymore
oops
Outstanding thread
Over 50 replies of sheer quality.
You read it word by word, don't you? ;)
Entertainment, my friend.
Still this topic derailed seriously. From a discussion about the annoying AC it turned to personal attacks.
Interesting to see who started the personal attacks...
happypenguin: "you're just a boring, pretentious fucker"
incandenza_: "derisive snort."
happypenguin (again, interfering in my discussion with incandenza_): "you really have a tiny cock don't you"
Wooly31: "Twat."
When they don't have arguments they start insulting people. I didn't insult them UNTIL they started insulting me. I was defending against them. I guess they were surprised by my strong counter-attack...
Shame on you.
Just like to say
Ladytron are really good
Not all their fans are like this
Cheers
guys i'm really embarrased by this thread
can we just shove it in the cupboard along with my s club 7 poster, a vhs copy of WWE Backlash 2005 and bandana that I used to wear to school. cheers
Absolutely not
If this thread was a building I'd list it.
Oh I've just noticed who you are
hi
Still this topic derailed seriously. From a discussion about the annoying AC it turned to personal attacks.
Interesting to see who started the personal attacks...
happypenguin: "you're just a boring, pretentious fucker"
incandenza_: "derisive snort."
happypenguin (again, interfering in my discussion with incandenza_): "you really have a tiny cock don't you"
Wooly31: "Twat."
When they don't have arguments they start insulting people. I didn't insult them UNTIL they started insulting me. I was defending against them. I guess they were surprised by my strong counter-attack...
Shame on you.
PS: I posted this a few minutes ago and it seems it disappeared. I posted it again.
STRONG COUNTER-ATTACK
Yeah, HP
Are you proud by your insults against me? I lost all respect for you & incandenza after this topic. You attacked me on a very low level. I didn't insult you before you started talking shit about me. Read again the whole topic.
PS: If I'm attacked, I fight back. Everytime.
Also this topic was meant to be half joking/half frustation. You took it way too seriously.
If I knew it would turn like that, I would never opened it.
On a side note: who is this p_a_u_l? He seems to this'd almost everything you post.
Liked their first album
but i think they became a bit too complex and difficult after that
AC will always
mean Anal Cunt to me (or alternating current I guess)
that's my initials
:(
Andrew Collins?
Alan Carr?
Albert Clifford
(Slater)
__ Acoustics