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Keep that kinda shit in check, brah.
It IS very good tho.
Wonder if it doesn't fall into the category of OMG I LOVE THIS SO MUCH RIGHT NOW, as in come September you'll barely play it.
I say again: it IS very good tho.
It has gone so far down the path of the 80s that it doesn't sound like it is taking the sound and updating it like Forget. Moreover it sounds a lot like most of the pop crap that was on the radio back then. IMO of course.
We're clearly from different worlds.
Don't get me wrong i love a lot of 80s music and synthpop. But not when it sounds like it comes from a Tom Cruise blockbuster OST. Setting the mood for Tom to ride his motorbike over to Kelly Mcgillis' house for a steamy sex session. I'm only joking, it's not THAT bad i guess but the 80s homage was at an acceptable level on Forget, it's too much on Confess.
Radio-friendly 80s music was deeply dire. Not that this is unique to the 80s.
Stunning album. For me, it' s only surpassed by Chromatic's 'Kill For Love'. It'll take something to beat that one though.
gave it a 6/10.
So I'll probably be bored with it in 3 months, won't I?
I listen to each song and think to myself that this should really be making my hair stand on end, I should be loving this... but there's something so ...off about this record that I can't overlook that feeling. That first song could have been spectacular if only he'd dropped the bullshit and the ironic out of tune backing vocals which decimate the chorus. When you're romanticising the 80s aesthetic as hard as this, you need to accept the sheen and polish.
You Call Me On suffers from more production decisions getting in the way of the song. Five Seconds and Run My Heart both feel and sound better, like he's got more of a hang on what this album is.
I should have loved this. I should be reeling in my seat. I'm not.
It's almost crushing. I don't know if it could have been better with a producer more in tune with what the music needed but instead it seems plagued with silly mix placements, curious timing and a lack of conviction which jars with how phenomenally well researched the styles are.
could you elaborate on that?
bearing in mind there was enough good stuff on this album that I would in no way dismiss it after a single play-through, these observations are all based off a first listen. It's testament to the strength of his songwriting that I want to push past the awkwardness present all over the album.
My issues with his timing and mix is a lot to do with the pristine polish of the music he's aping - when it's not right, it's glaringly so. He's not presenting these songs in the same vein as Chromatics, for example - he's going to a far glossier pop sheen than their stripped down italo leanings; far more Simple Minds, Police, Hall & Oates. There's very little room for error in any of their productions. As for the conviction, it's all in his voice... the last few songs especially come across like he's really not that sure of himself. This stuff needs to be belted out (one of the things that made M83's last album so thrilling was Gonzalez' willing to just let it all out, restraints off) - and Lewis Jr. frequently wavers.
except you've indicated that you think far too much of M83 latest effort.
I'm afraid this is galringly better than that and I didn't dislike that recod either.
It certainly isn't the pop brilliance that Twin Shadow's album hasn't managed to capture though. Saturdays=Youth still remains the best of those two in my humble opinion.
but it isn't Saturdays = Youth, which is probably my favourite album released in the last 10 years. Hopefully that can put things into a little more perspective?
I wasn't disappointed by Hurry Up... like some people were. I think I realised ahead of time what utter folly double albums usually are and when I finally got hold of it my expectations were simply levelled out by wanting it to be as excessive and overblown as it could be, even if it was unlilely he'd ever hit the hight of Graveyard Girl again - though that first track with Zola Jesus and of course, Midnight City were pretty keen contenders.
As for Twin Shadows, the third and fourth tracks of Confess are really, really good; not quite thrilling me but making me sit up and pay some damn attention. It's those ones I come back to. I want to go back to the first, but that stupid out of tune backing vox ruins it for me everytime. It's a real hipster mistake.
Was never that keen on his vocal melodies. Everything apart from vocal and singing style was great on the previous record, and this new one might be the same.
Really reminds me of that song from The Lost Boys "Cry Little Sister (Theme from The Lost Boys)" by Gerard McMann.
except they weren't out of tune.
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is what 80's revivalists should do. Great sound, great heart. It does blow Chromatics right out of the water.
On account of Chromatic's 'Kill For Love' being one of (if not the) best album of the year.
Kind of like this one to be fair.
I love them both as I love 'Something' by Chairlift - and for similar reasons.
Frankly, if anyone hasn't got a single artist in their top five LPs of this year who tips their cap to the 80s in some way, then they need to seriously reconsider their life.
The 80s is the gift that just keeps on giving.
is definitely on Twin Shadow, and shall we forget it: Bear in Heaven.
Both Chromatics and Chairlift are MOR snoozefest in my humble opinion. Ok, my opinion can be ignore, I know. :p
why hasn't that site got 'edit' somewhere!
shame, the first few tracks are primetime
'When the Movies Over', 'Be Mine Tonight' and 'Mirror in the Dark (can't strictly speaking count it 'cause it's a hidden track but still) are some of the best things on the album.
In fact, it's all so much of a similar quality and style that I'd probably understand someone more if they didn't like the whole thing rather than any part of it.
and then a few months later you're like YEAH THAT ALBUM'S A BIT SHIT ACTUALLY
Actually out of all the positive reviews I've read of this album, that's the most surprising.
I don't know why but for some reason I just think the NME has sort of developed a kind of bias against musicians like Twin Shadow.
to tell you the truth, the album seems to have a wide appeal. Maybe, NME are trying to find the next 'Ladyhawke'?
He's on a bit of a roll, the first album was good, the second one got the zeigeist right, let's see what he does with the third one. Interesting.
Dis and Disers always get it right.
Which makes it all the more strange because they've got it right now.
they ALWAYS get it wrong, except this time. I agree *nods in approvement*
What an amazing spectacle of pop, sweat & fears; without doubt something touching the peak of genius.
Plus, speaking as a straight man, how fit is he!!!! Need to spend tomorrow re-laminating my top 3 'would' list and doing an awful lot of explaining to my girlfriend.
America, fuck yeah!
Show was really great! They played with conviction and passion and the sound was superb. The drummer is marvellous. Different bass player than I've seen them play with before but he nailed it. George was awesome - great crowd interaction at the end. brilliant show.
One of the best of the year so far.
Really tight band, the new songs sounded flawless (although I think the previous album was evidently stronger). George is very charismatic, feels like he should be a major pop star. Very danceable, loads of grooves. Extremely hot as well, which kind of added to the atmosphere- was wiping my brow after every song.
before they got all popular n such. Too big now, won't listen.
were VERY poor live, hope thats changed.
in Glasgow last year and thought they were great. Forget was probably one of my most listend to albums last year but after my first listen i'm not feeling it as much. I'll obviously give it more time but they seem to have lost a nostalgic 80s vibe and just gone all out 80s.
...along with the superb bonus tracks.
You probably know how good 'Mirror in the Dark' is but 'Get What You Want' is simply brilliant.
Seriously, this guy can do no wrong.
For Brixton Electric (I've never been there, any good?) and Manchester Sound Control both in November
Looks like they have spent some decent cash on the refit.
it's pretty special
kind of ill atm. very woozy. I don't know if it'll sound less special if I listen w/o being ill, but all I know is it sounded incredible on first listen. I was a little bit in awe of the production.
I love WHEN THE MOVIE'S OVER.
Anyway, yeah it's a great album and that dude over at the LA times or whatever it was who said it's an all time low for 'indie rock' is wrong. I wouldn't even call it rock music.
skipped to track two and then quickly skipped to track three and gave up.
Christ, there's no hope for AOTY if this sort of dullard, retro stuff is going to get praise heaped on it.
It's quite nice and good fun, but isn't it the sort of thing most of these boards crucified Jamie Woon, Justin Timberlake and Sam Sparro for making several years ago?
do you get paid a fee to post that kind of "AOTY DIS" bull crap as headers with your link?
this album is... meh..?
Are the only thing that can be accurately described as '"meh".
I'd like to see and end to war and peace eternal but failing tha I'd settle for one where you don't see anymore statements like.
"This is meh"
"Nah, this is meh."
And so on.
It's bloody throw away comment from someone who has nothing insightful to say about something but thinks that saying "I think this is shit" is somehow heaping a sort of twisted sort of praise.
Much cooler to simply dismiss it as 'so - so' - nothing to get excited about one way or another.
the first time I listened to '5 seconds' a few weeks ago, I wasn't sold on it. I really liked the first album too.
It took me a while and then the immediacy of it, just shot to the 'heart'!
I think you could get caught up in the 'retro sound' and not appreciate the substance of it. Shame.
why bother with everything else?
I think it shows some 'SHORT'comings. :D
MEH. the album didn't move me. It's uninspiring. I can see some good moments but it's not a patch on "forget". the whole tone of this thread screams out "endorsement". like some PR or label thought "hey how do we push this album and give it a nice boost. i know lets give a free stream away and make that dude from DIS recommend it. maybe he'll even say it'll be ALBUM OF THE YEAR!!!! if we give him some money". he hasn't even bothered doing a good job of making it look natural. and the fact he's already making statements of this record even being considered as ALBUM OF YEAR makes me feel suspect.
but I seriously doubt any money has changed hands here. This is exactly the sort of thing Sean likes, which is why I was expecting not to like the album.
i stand by my original statement. "MEH"
if we both liked it, it would be destined to fail...
Our tastes tend to cross at the, "Yeah, that was pretty good," point I think. And with stone cold classics like Eliott Smith and R****h***.
I don't really like that R band tho :-/
Mind = blown
Theo is right below, it's just what the guy likes right now. Cut Copy, that French girl whose name I forget, various things this year...
The DiS review wasn't done by him, neither was the one over on the BBC site that loved it too nor the display stand in Fopp full of staff comments and review snippets saying it was the Album of the week.
Some people just really like it. You're not one of them. I'm somewhere between the two and just hanging out, seeing which way I'll go.
just made an assertion in the subject line of a messageboard thread, and suddenly I'm doing this for paydirt? I'm a truly cynical fucker, but not even I think music fans say nice things because they're paid to, not when they have a 12 year reputation, etc, etc.
I still think this Twin Shadow album is blistering, and I keep loving more with every listen.
There are 3 or 4 absolute pop classics surrounded by some solid, 7.5/10 album tracks meaning I can't quite work out if my *thinking* it's great is merely because of my love of those 3 tracks?
ANYHOW... I do find the production a bit heavy handed though. Too many moments where I think 'That's St. Elmo's Fire' or 'That's the bass sound from Karma Chameleon'. It doesn't ruin it for me, just (from previous experience of other LPs like this) makes it sound a bit more 'of the moment' potentially than a record I may still love in 10 years time.
Time will tell I guess?
It is an absolute pile of cack. As usual, I predict, you will not be listening to this album in 12 months time. Terrible.
REALLY? I'm surprised but then if you bought it without listening to it to work out if it was your sort of thing, I feel bad for you son....
I think I have about 10 downloaded records I bought on 7digital's £5 offer last year because they got good reviews on here, even though they didn't sound like my kind of thing.
I should know by now. Must remember to USE SPOTIFY MORE...
Been resisting Spotify, but the time may have finally arrived.
I want to but I can't hear any new ground covered, or indeed old ground bettered.
So what do you think about that? (probably nothing)
Honestly though, it's great.
More music fans should be like this, the board would be terrifying
I don't like people who make shitty short 'meh' responses or anything similar.
I sure as hell aint gonna stop 'em but I get so pissed off with one line comments - anything which took the member less than five minutes to type as an an initial reaction to any record, annoys me a little.
Come on a music forum and talk passionately about music - be erudite about it and show how seriously you take it (even the stuff you don't like).
Give music the respect it's due with your time and your words. Don't be monosyllabic.
Or do be, it's up to you obviously. I just don't like it and now it's public.
and come to the conclusion it's not as good as Forget. I haven't listened to it that much in the past few days, and when I do it's with some trepidation.
I think the production is a bit too heavy handed and over polished, whereas the first one was just right. There's none of the gentle grooves of Forget or Tyrant Destroyer, it's all gung ho 80's theatrics. And lyrically, the macho 'hey girl' thing gets a bit tiring after a while. 5 Seconds and Beg for the night are still killer.
I think the album is a superior to 'Forget' (and I really like 'Forget') for exactly the reasons you've stated.
It's even more obviously 80s in style.
It's big and loud and brash.
It's really produced and polished.
All of the above are what makes it one of the very best albums this year for me.
Its just like Forget and I liked Forget.
Very, very good. 'I Don't Care' stood out towards the end, sounds like the best OneRepublic / Justin Timberlake collaboration never made.
I really liked Forget but this is miles better, I think the pop sheen production works a treat, and the '80s thing only grates ever so slightly on 'Five Seconds' when you start to wonder if there's any way he could possibly make it sound any more like the Top Gun soundtrack.
My favourite tracks are Five Seconds and When The Movie's Over
made me think I'd loathe it with every fibre of my being, but it's not that terrible at all. Won't go as far to say as like it much but it at least reaches neutral point
was good for the first few listens, after that have not even bothered again
Half agree/half disagree with this review. Think the writer seems to have some personal vendetta against him and has misjudged his character;it's clearly a put upon persona, FFS.
I agree with it being too repetitive lyrically, and also the general point about it being fairly unemotional/distant.
How can someone describe it as unemotional and distant? That's one of the main quality of the album that it makes you believe in the feelings behind the songs. I always think he sings with his heart on his sleeves, really passionate.
Well, I thought the same about the last Atlas Sound album, and people disagreed.