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When is the cd release date for this album?
Can't find it anywhere.
That goes for the next album too. The two albums are being released via a record label in Japan:
But that website says they don't deliver outside of Japan. I asked Phil about that he said something about them working it out and taking worldwide orders. I don't think it will happen though.
I was hoping Tomlab were going to pick this up but I'm not sure if they release stuff anymore.
They just closed their online shop.
mount eerie stuff, even more than other stuff, only looks right on vinyl, why not just get that and burn the free files to cd
and don't want to get one either.
Like most other artists a cd will do nicely please.
He might actually make some more money if he could get it out on cd.
most people buy a cd, put it on their computer, never use the disc again, it only purpose now being the artwork. Now you can get the vinyl for the artwork (which is a better size for it) and get the download and put it on a CD if you want, on bandcamp it is in flac I assume the download that comes with the vinyl is also high quality.
Its a self released thing, im sure he knows his fan base and what is the optimum combination of formats. The vinyl with download combo satisfies a large proportion of people, it might leave out those loyal to CDs but it might just not be worth his while to cater for them, especially if its not a format he cares for. in the past I *think* it has always been other labels that put out the CD so it may still happen, maybe he just doesnt want to take on the financial outlay himself
that people don't listen to cd's anymore.
I buy a cd, stick the tunes onto my ipod, but I still listen to the cd in my house, car etc.
why not just make a cd from the flac files?
If they want to play it in their car or stereo why not, the vinyl will be there for the artwork if tgey want, one cdr doesn't take up much space. Might not be ideal but there are probably many more cases where people want in on vinyl but it isn't an option, just the way it is sometimes. For whatever reason he has decided not to do it in all formats, but the digital or digital/vinyl combo options, satisfies everyone except those not willing to put up with making a cdr, where as given his fan base, releasing digital an cd only would disappoint vinyl fans and they can't make their own
some people both don't want vinyl, but at the same time want a nice thing in their homes.
I'm not ignoring then, it's about finding an optimum solution, for a self release. Download and vinyl combo covers the most bases, if someone did a venn diagram of factors the most would be covered, artwork, digital convenience, cd quality, many cd fans would be happy with this option, the only group it leaves out are people that specifically want the cd size package
I'm saying that "download the flacs and burn them to CD" is not a suit-all response for someone who wants something on a CD.
(fwiw, though, in this case, I'm sure he could've supported a CD release, even if it was just 500. but whatever, I don't really care either way.)
I guess I genuinely don't understand not liking vinyl so much that someone wouldn't buy it if it is the only option, fair enough if it's not your preference but as you can make something that fulfils the audio requirements of a cd it seems really fussy
That's what I don't get, fair enough not liking vinyl for audio and convenience but it fulfils the pleasing artifact criteria even if it's never played
so why would I buy a vinyl copy just so I could get a code to burn a cdr?
Just put the album out on cd so I, and no doubt others, will buy it instead of stealing it off the internet because we can't obtain it in the format we require.
because presumably you buy a cd because; i) you want to listen to an album on a cd player, and ii) you want to leaf through the booklet and appreciate the art work when you feel like.
you can do all of that with the vinyl/digital combo, you dont have to have a record player to appreciate the album as an object. Just seems like an irrational hatred of slightly larger square shapes.
that you cannot comprehend that someone who doesn't have a record player, doesn't buy vinyl and doesn't actually want to buy any vinyl would actually buy it on that format to make a cdr.
Just because the artwork looks good.
First and foremost I want to buy it on cd to listen to on the cd and on my ipod. Not admire it for months to come.
im not questioning your preference for cd and aversion to vinyl, but its not available on cd (well except for my links down there), if your not bothered about admiring it for months to come just by the flacs and make a cd, if you do want to admire it then buy it in a slightly different format than you would normally and admire it.
If I were eleverum id think ok this release covers people that like vinyl, this covers people that like artwork, this covers people that want cd quality audio, this doesnt cover people that want to use a cd player but can easily be remedied by the person and a cdr, the one thing it doesnt cover is people that can only appreciate the object as a cd size case, oh well cant please them all.
A bad analogy would be, I don't like hardback books, I find them awkward to read and take up too much space, id much prefer a paperback. but most of the time when a book comes out it is in hardback, if that is the only format available thats just what i'll have to get, I might be a little annoyed about it but I wouldnt let it stop me enjoying a book I wanted. (doesnt quite work as with a hardback its not like you could create a convenient paperback from it like you could cd from vinyl/digital combo).
so to summarise I can understand its not your ideal prefered option, but I dont understand it being a deal breaker.
You might want to get a record player in the future, as I think this is the way things are going for elverum esque artists, as people become less interested in physical format, vinyl is going to be the one they concentrate on, as many of the properties of cd have overlap with downloads but with vinyl thats not the case
You don't need to go out and purchase different equipment to read a hardback book rather than a paperback.
you wouldnt have to buy new equipment to play the digital version that comes with it, in this scenario they vinyl would only be fulfiling the nice object aspect of the release, but you said you dont care for admiring the object in which case just make a cdr from flac, why must it be the official cd release if you dont care for admiring the album as an object
but why not put it out on cd?
a) Phil wanted vinyl as the main format and it was prohibitively expensive to do a good quality CD run as well
b) It's just him being difficult.
it sounds "warmer"
don't forget that it creates a more special connection with the artist (via costing more)
the new album costs $15, yeah bigger acts sell ridiculously over priced vinyl but thats not the case here
how good is clear moon. love it.
who would like to hear it (and pay for it) but don't want to buy the vinyl or the digital download will never know at this rate...
you cant be that fussed about listening to it if you are letting format stop you.
as they fact that I started this thread and replied several times might indicate.
fussed about the availability of cds maybe, not the content of the album evidently if your letting lack of cd stop you
I guess not, liking cds so much that the lack of the cds existence would stop you listening to the album, nope.
But anyway you can get the cd vvv so problem solved
I, like many others I'd imagine, are not in the habit of buying any product of any kind that I cannot use.
It's not about stopping me lsiteniYour love of vinyl is
It's not about stopping me listening to an album it's making it available to people. Maybe I'm in the minority on here but I will never have a record player. The majority will have a cd player (or at least a computer to play it on).
Your insistence that people without a record player should get a vinyl copy for a download code is just totally daft. You talk about artwork and all that but that is irrelevant to the initial point of the release format.
this is such a beautiful example of a 'first world problem'. If you are that bothered about having the CD, like everyone else said just download the fucking FLAC then then print off the artwork yourself and shove it in a case.
Though, I thought most people/everyone on here liked to listen to new albums at least once through for free before buying anyway?... Hence the growth in streams.
but thanks for that.
let's say it was never to be released on anything but vinyl and download formats (which isn't the case, but just entertain us here for a moment), would you never listen to it?
just download it.
well up there you said you havent listened to it because its not on cd, so it has stopped you listening, and thats what I dont get. And I dont get the 'cannot use' bit, you dont have to play the vinyl, probably a big proportion of bought vinyl is never played anyway, its just their as a collectable object, just think of it as the mp3 delivery system with a nice picture on that most people think of cds as these days. Anyway we reached a dead end along time ago so lets stop, you can get the cd from amazon or hmv japan, shame it is import only but tecnically so is the vinyl, so this could all also be seen as an issue of when will this be released properly in europe
£22 before shipping but it is both new albums
it's weird that that CD is supposedly out in July but Ocean Roar isn't out until September.
Interesting interview where he explains the lack of cds
But you have to use Paypal. I just ordered the CD and it came to about £25 with shipping.
Both albums are in a hardback card fold-out wallet. Looks nice.
whats the other album like?
you have both albums already??
Phil gon' be mad
But yeah, both albums.
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