but then I read the interview and it's actually quite sad. I hope he finds happiness.
It would be well jazzy if he got himself a sexy woman voice but was still belting out the politics of starving and stuff.
reassuring to hear his wife is so supportive.
I always thought Gabel seemed incredibly masculine, so this is a shock, but good for him to make a choice that will make him happy. It's pretty punk I guess.
This thread has just reminded me Borne on the Waves of an FM Heart and Thrash Unreal are two of my favourite songs.
they've definitely had their moments as a band, Searching For A Former Clarity is a pretty strong album.
Anyhow, it'd be nice if this thread is representative of the response she'll get from the music community in general.
I feel for these people, must be pretty fucking difficult to grow up genuinely feeling like you're the opposite gender. Probably why they're musicians or artist or whatever. DEEP MAN.
I hadn't seen that but just looked and he/she did go, or is going, through the same thing.
appears to be going through the same thing, as suggested by a recent press release.
Why should it make a difference?
Every person has the right to do what it takes to feel comfortable in his/her own skin.
Another interesting element is that he says he is not attracted to men, which helps people understand how different sexual orientation (straight/gay/bi) and gender identity are. A gay man isn't necessarily less male and a gay woman isn't necessarily less female. Apparently it works the other way around as well, there are transgender people who are straight (like this singer, or that famous ceramic artist..whose name I keep forgetting despite the 'famous' part, he he)
Also I think I remember Eddie Izzard saying that 'most trans people are straight in the normative sense... I fancy girls and so do most trans men', or words to that effect. Interesting.
We will look back on this era of how we laughed at and belittled transgendered people in the same way cringe at how we treated homosexuals in the 50s.
and daunting to make an announcement like that, not knowing how fans and media will react.
Lets hope it works out for her.
Surely for the moment he is a still a 'he' - especially while his name is still 'officially' Tom?
tom could be a girls name... when does someone start/stop being a man or woman?
i'm no expert on this issue, but I don't think that you can simply qualify it by someone's name, or how they choose to dress, or whether they have a vagina. there's no definitive line, but she has announced herself as transgender, and she does not wish to be a man, so why should we refer to her as one.
For example if I, or this dude in this band or whatever, walked into the girls' toilet in pub we'd likely be kicked out. Syaing "hey, I self-identify as a woman!" won't quite cut it with the bouncer or the women in the toilet.
So there does have to be a line (if not a definitive one) at which point the switchover is made. I would imagine it's around the time you start dressing like a woman and stop giving yourself a boys name, as these are the two most obvious/upfront signifiers to a person's gender.
in this case, we are. Even if society as a whole is unable to make that definition, we are able to, and we can respect her wishes.
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
I guess it's best to honour the wishes of the person (I wasn't sure what to use further up).
This has genuinely shocked me.
Now I feel bad :(
again, Terre Thaemlitz's words gives a better perspective about transgendered issues
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