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Brand New
Girls Aloud
I'm very excited to see how this thread will progress
That's pretty cool.
At first, I was like "Hahaha, that's funny" because I am like that
but then I read the interview and it's actually quite sad. I hope he finds happiness.
I wonder what will happen with the band.
It would be well jazzy if he got himself a sexy woman voice but was still belting out the politics of starving and stuff.
Good luck to him
reassuring to hear his wife is so supportive.
Wow... the lines from the Ocean suddenly seem a lot more significant.
I always thought Gabel seemed incredibly masculine, so this is a shock, but good for him to make a choice that will make him happy. It's pretty punk I guess.
This thread has just reminded me Borne on the Waves of an FM Heart and Thrash Unreal are two of my favourite songs.
he did seem dead manly, which i guess just shows how invisible gender dysphoria can be.
they've definitely had their moments as a band, Searching For A Former Clarity is a pretty strong album.
Anyhow, it'd be nice if this thread is representative of the response she'll get from the music community in general.
Good for her.
:)
So glad this thread was started by SCROTUM
hey if I could change it
I would
Isn't this the same as the lead singer of Life of Agony?
I feel for these people, must be pretty fucking difficult to grow up genuinely feeling like you're the opposite gender. Probably why they're musicians or artist or whatever. DEEP MAN.
blimey - you mean Keith Caputo?
I hadn't seen that but just looked and he/she did go, or is going, through the same thing.
Porl Thompson of The Cure
appears to be going through the same thing, as suggested by a recent press release.
I've got nothing Against Him!/Her!
Why should it make a difference?
Good for her
Interesting
Every person has the right to do what it takes to feel comfortable in his/her own skin.
Another interesting element is that he says he is not attracted to men, which helps people understand how different sexual orientation (straight/gay/bi) and gender identity are. A gay man isn't necessarily less male and a gay woman isn't necessarily less female. Apparently it works the other way around as well, there are transgender people who are straight (like this singer, or that famous ceramic artist..whose name I keep forgetting despite the 'famous' part, he he)
* sorry, should have said "she"
Grayson Perry
Also I think I remember Eddie Izzard saying that 'most trans people are straight in the normative sense... I fancy girls and so do most trans men', or words to that effect. Interesting.
Good luck to her.
We will look back on this era of how we laughed at and belittled transgendered people in the same way cringe at how we treated homosexuals in the 50s.
Must be even harder to make this choice when you are a popular musician
and daunting to make an announcement like that, not knowing how fans and media will react.
Lets hope it works out for her.
Tom Gabel...has revealed to Rolling Stone that she plans to begin living as a woman.
Surely for the moment he is a still a 'he' - especially while his name is still 'officially' Tom?
nice try
trolling?
tom could be a girls name... when does someone start/stop being a man or woman?
That's what i'm asking.
whenever they like
pretty much
when they announce that they wish to continue life as a woman?
i'm no expert on this issue, but I don't think that you can simply qualify it by someone's name, or how they choose to dress, or whether they have a vagina. there's no definitive line, but she has announced herself as transgender, and she does not wish to be a man, so why should we refer to her as one.
Well I think to some extent, you have to qualify it in those terms.
For example if I, or this dude in this band or whatever, walked into the girls' toilet in pub we'd likely be kicked out. Syaing "hey, I self-identify as a woman!" won't quite cut it with the bouncer or the women in the toilet.
So there does have to be a line (if not a definitive one) at which point the switchover is made. I would imagine it's around the time you start dressing like a woman and stop giving yourself a boys name, as these are the two most obvious/upfront signifiers to a person's gender.
They are unaware of the person being transgender
in this case, we are. Even if society as a whole is unable to make that definition, we are able to, and we can respect her wishes.
i reckon when all the internet losers give their blessing
Hang on, you mean they haven't got their official woman paperwork through the post yet?
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
Rolling Stone are using she and her.
I guess it's best to honour the wishes of the person (I wasn't sure what to use further up).
This was a band that I was massively into as a teenager but my interest faded to nothing a few years ago.
This has genuinely shocked me.
CG trolling the music board really isn't fair on them
I laughed at the tags
Now I feel bad :(
Against Men!
People wishing "good luck" and "hope" to transgenders in the system that we live in... now that's weird
again, Terre Thaemlitz's words gives a better perspective about transgendered issues
"choose yours",
http://www.comatonse.com/writings/index.html
Not sure what you're actually trying to link there bro, but I'd like to read it if possible.
eat this ex-The Morning Benders!