How Long Should Music Reviews Be?
I admire the PF writers greatly. DiS writers. But I find myself reading about 4 paragraphs before I nod off. (About halfway.)
They're writing one-hour dramas, when I'm really more into a 30 min sitcom.
Record reviews typically run about 650-950 words.
Erm, I'm thinking, more like 450 is more of the optimum word count. If "Modern Family" can run four story lines in 22 minutes, then muso's should be able to sum up a record in 450 words.
More, to writers: if this was the new norm. How would you change your writing habits? Ditch the intro? Skip the background? Shore up the track-by-track? What?
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1 paragraph
then the score.
Maybe just the score
1 digit reviews
one sentence, then a score
i.e. http://twitter.com/seaninrcrds (I need to resurrect this)
yeah exactly
basically i just want to know what the band sounds like, genre etc and then i will go listen to them on youtube or bandcamp. I dont need someone telling me what it sounds like if i can just listen for myself.
true
but often a record won't grab you on a surface listen, and reading about it can encourage you to reconsider a record or listen to it a few times, giving it a real chance. Alternatively, getting some context for a recommendation, like, say Jimi recommends something, knowing his track record, that provides a context for many of us who frequent these boards, is really important. A great writer can provide that context in a paragraph or two.
Plus, yuhknow, reading can be a pleasure, rather than some sort of research chore.
of course
i get why people read them, for me personally i prefer just a short recommendation and will investigate myself.
no words, just a doodle
Gross
I enjoy a well written (even if it runs a bit long) review. If you want a tweet for a review may I suggest Spin? I can't stand their reviews.
I think both forms can co-exist in this modern world
Neither is more right or wrong, and often little teasers can lead people into reading much lengthier things, whilst for others, the teaser is enough to prick their interest, to go and invest their time in listening to something (and then maybe spending their money on a physical copy or a gig ticket, etc). I think it's important that we don't try to say one form of writing is more valid or better than another, but that they both have their merits in various contexts, for various types of people.
Which kinda leads to a sub-question, who do people write: usually to get people to listen to music they think is worth spending your time listening to (or to save you spending your time listening to something which, in the writer's opinion, is maybe better avoided, unless you like the sound of the descriptions)
It really depends
Personally, I think it's as long as the writer can keep things interesting, without overstating or repeating for the sake of some perceived word count. Some people come here to read things a little longer than the 50 word reviews so print publications continue to run.
I do think web design (DiS' current one included) don't encourage deep-reading and concentration. Try installing this http://www.readability.com/ or save it to http://www.instapaper.com to read later on your phone. Makes a huge difference, as the brain short circuits every time it sees a hyperlink to consider clicking on.
I think the average reviews around tend toward being too long...
but the biggest problem is that far too many reviewers indulge their unfulfilled creative writing dreams, layering so many overwrought metaphors on top of each other, such that the whole thing is devoid of any real meaning whatsoever.
You're gonna really enjoy my Chromatics review when it goes up tomorrow ;-)
haha...am intrigued now...
was looking forward to that review too...
Well I suppose it depends what you want from a record review
Personally I find at least 50% of Pitchfork reviews dull and prosaic, when I really want writing that entertains as much as the record itself - or at least, writing to glorify a record’s eccentricities and lampoon its shortcomings with humour and vigour. If all you want is recommendations, then yeah, one sentence and a mark, sure. But at a time when bands would be outnumbered by critics if they didn’t each have a safety net of aliases and side projects I find that one great balls out neck on the line record review is far more valuable than 1000 half-arsed, empty recommendations.
I suppose that’s more a rant about record reviews in general than a response to anyone in this thread.
To answer the OP, I think the intro’s usually important in terms of context, so skipping that would be a mistake - I like intros that are detailed and intelligent and not obviously linked to the album itself. As a general rule reviews that talk less about the music and more about the world the music exists in, and the validity of its raison d’etre, fare better in this house. Background can usually be summarised in a sentence and trying to describe what stuff sounds like is rarely the most effective way of conveying how it makes me feel. I suppose anything from 300 upwards suits me, but only a few writers are decent enough to successfully hit the big word counts.
i think the "trying to describe what stuff sounds like"...
is where a lot of the overly florid language that i was having a whinge about above stems from.
I try to keep mine as close to 350-500 words as possible, and just talk about the music rather than embark on some Pitchfork-esque autobiography for the opening seven paragraphs, but sometimes it's hard to resist going full-out essay.
I just reviewed Madonna's latest album - http://jonnyabrams.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/review-madonna-mdna.html - and while I could have just written one sentence saying "this is wretched", that wouldn't have been anywhere near as much fun!
sometimes a bit of autobiography is important to making sense
of a record in terms of how it fits in an acts catalogue - or within the history of music or a genre... but, yeah, no need for too much more than the most notable and relevant facts in an age of wikipedia... there was certainly a time when reviews and journalism in general were the only way to communicate facts and a back-story, but them days are over.
Exactly! 90% of the time wikipedia-info doesn't need to be in a review
Reviews...
It really depends who your publication/audience is.
I reckon people go to PF, DiS, Quietus for more in depth coverage.
If I'm writing for the paper I work for or some of the general arts/what's on type rags I normally go with Rocksucker - 350 to 500.
I think a lot of writers get it wrong because their writing style is all over the place. A plethora of cliched metaphors will not make you look clever, intellectual, witty or informed - they will make you look amateurish.
There's also no need to go through each track on record or played live in detail. Tease us with a flavour.
Most importantly, be succinct and deliberate. Do not waffle on or ramble with little idea of what you're doing. Again, when a lot of writers try to show off the fall flat on their faces.
I don't want reviews or ratings
I want all film, TV shows, albums and moments of cultural importance arranged into a list like a Channel 4 TV show. It could be updated daily with an opinion just fed to us. Today:
1) The Adele album
2) Delboy falling through the bar
3) Blur vs Oasis
4) Blood Red Shoes album
5) The moving finale of Blackadder goes Forth
6) Avengers Assemble
7) Is filesharing killing music
8) The re-emergence of 90s dance music
9) Scandinavian crime dramas
10) The new Santigold album
That way he would only have to buy albums that we can enjoy collective nostalgia about.
In fact I want all newspapers, websites and magazines to summarise everything in the world into a single soundbite of less than 160 characters.
I don't know where that came from. Sorry.
Short
I usually just skip to the last couple of sentences to find out if it`s any good or not. Allmusic get it right, accurate and fair ratings and they don`t waffle on.
1 spotify link
if i think it's funny then it's fine
speaking as someone who is aware (and has been made more aware these last couple weeks) that he waffles. But waffling adds a personal, conversational tone and is funny. And descriptive in a way that writing isn't naturally.
i should also say that i actually speak like i write.
Having said all that the 2 word review for Spinal Tap's "Shark Sandwich" still makes me laugh.
and i had a conversation with Sean recently about doing a review in the style of an instructional pamphlet with diagrams. If the right record comes along then this may happen
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A lot of record reviews could be shortened by
keeping the biography and general-knowledge, background content to a minimum and focussing on tight, specific analysis of the music
I only write the occasional review for DiS
but generally I try and keep it between 400-600 words. If it's a bigger release I might go for closer to 1,000 (though that's hard to pull off unless you really have lots to say). If it's a debut from a fairly obscure band I don't often need to go over 500, I find. Sometimes I find I haven't written as much as I expected, but if the review is concise and covers everything I intended to, I'd rather just have it be a little bit shorter than average than pad it out to reach a word count.
When I'm reading, I don't often have the patience for 1,000 word plus pieces unless it's an album I'm really hyped for. Also, dunno if this is just me, but when I really love a record, I enjoy looking on DiS, P4K, RA etc. for the old reviews. In cases like that, I'll happily read a massive piece.
Sorry, that turned into a bit of a waffle!
Agreed. It's much harder to write short reviews
Much more skill involved in being succinct, which is often a good thing as it prevents babbling and use of too many pointless adjectives that derail reviews and stop them flowing. It's the same with any writing really - writing to a word count is much harder and often better as it improves self-editing skills and makes you realise what is the real point you're making.
That's why so many reviews on internet-only sites are quite shit - they're invariably better in print. Unless they're only 70 words or something ridiculous, then they're just pointless.