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Looking pretty great again, think I'm gonna go this year.
Anyone who has been before have hotel recommendations?
how's that gonna fly?
I haven't decided what I'm doing re: hotels, camping etc yet. I love 1 hour away form the site but last year I commuted to and from the site by train and it was a bit of a fucking nightmare. It's a great festival.
The site is about 10 minutes bus ride from the centre of Katowice. There's only one hostel realdy n Katowice, and will almost certainly be already booked up. There are other hotels in the city. Take your pick. Katowice isn't the most pleasant of cities so anywhere will do, although the nearer you are to Plac Wolnosci or the central train station (Katowice Glowny PKS) the nearer you are to the bus route which goes near the site. You can also taxi to the site (approx cost 15 zl IE £3). It's not really walking distance so there's no point trying to find a hotel near the site. It's in a really nice location though.
I meant to say 'I live one hour from the site'
You can fly from Luton Airport to Katowice airport quite easily, but you have to take a 45mins 1-hour shuttle bus to the centre of the town, which is about 25zl.
I'll be keeping an eye on this thread though, cheers.
Really want to go to Unsound but I don't know if I'll be in Europe in October, unfortch.
- Camping is strangely segregated and heavily guarded by security.
- The festival is extremely well organised.
- Last year there was a mini football tournament during the day. We lost to some Germans who genuinely cheated. So if someone can get some revenge this year that'd be sweet.
- There was hardly any British people last year.
- For a festival it was impossible to get anything 'illegal'.
- The sound and layout is all pretty great.
- You can't bring alcohol into the stage area (although for the main stage you can hear the music from the drink and food centre)
- There's a massive supermarket 5 minutes from the site.
the ticket, alcohol and food are all cheap.
is a bit of a buzz kill (hate to be all Brits on tour about it) but apart from that it all sounds great. Defo won't be camping so no worries there. How late does the music go onto? Thanks for the info!
But the last acts of the day are either DJs (I remember watching Kode 9 until about 3.45am) or someone like Oneohtrix Point Never whom most people chose to pass out in front of, from what I remember. Although you can't take beer into the main arenas, it's entirely possible to stand in the beer area (Which is pretty large) and still see whatever band you want, if they're on either of the main stages (not if they're in either tent).
i came in late and 3 quarters of the people were just lying down and snoozing. Joined in.
man with a plan
and you can see two of the stages from it. But outside of there they sell no alcohol. It's not really that big of an issue once you're there. We snuck in some vodka and put it in the soft drinks they sold. Or you can also nip back quickly for quick beers.
can you get vodka as well as beer?
but as i've just said above, i snuck some vodka behind my back into the arena, and just bought the soft drinks and did a little bit of mixing. I don't think they sold any spirits at the bar.
I say interesting, OFF last year was the first festival I'd been to in about 5 years because generally they drive me up the fucking wall. Rather than use money at the bar, you have to buy tokens which you then use for food and drink. Like Itchy and Scratchy dollars. Don't know if it's common practice at festivals these days, but I quite liked it, although obviously I still have some tokens left over from last year
I like it too.
Anyway, just booked my flights so I guess I'm going!
so many good additions. converge, antlers, iggy pop, chrome hoof, nils frahm, tim hecker, alva noto, battles, baroness, colin stetson, converge, forest swords, josh t pearson, swans, papa m AND MORE!
just a quick question...how are people planning on getting to the festival/town from the airport. i am getting in at 8pm on thursday so will probably get some kind of transfer/taxi however haven't actually looked into it that much yet....?
but i'll be travelling sometime thursday afternoon, so i might get in touch nearer to the time
I haven't decided whether to camp, or commute from Rybnik like last year.
If you are planning to go from the airport to the town centre, get the shuttle bus - it's about 25zl (5 pounds). A taxi is pretty extortionate. Then you can tranfer to one of the multitude of buses that go to the site.
I'm quite excited about seeing The House of Love. Can't work out what the appeal is of that band in Poland, but I'll be all over 'Destroy The Heart', if they play that.
will the shuttle buses be running later at night? re a transfer, there may be a few of us in the taxi/car so it may just be simpler and a similar price. i'll be staying in katowice rather than camping so will be wanting to go there initially on thurs...
You won't have a problem, it's certainly easier than explaining to a taxi driver exactly where you want to go.
it turns out Tim Hecker, Barn Owl and Chrome Hoof are doing soundtracks to old Polish films. i hope they do normal sets too.
could be good to see something different though, seem Hecker do the Rave death set a few times now.
but i can imagine it being very much in the same style. its more chrome hoof, be a shame if all they did was a soundtrack.
The event wherein Tim Hecker and Barn Owl play soundtracks has already passed. This was at OFF Club on may 11, 12 and 13:
I was at OFF festival as well last year, and am going again this summer.
Last year we stayed at this hotel: www.campanile.com. It's located outside the city of Katowice and very close to the festival grounds (we walked to the festival each day, took 10 mins or so). Most importantly, it's also very close to a nice lake where you can take a swim and lay on the grass during the day (as there is next to nothing to do in Katowice).
that's what you get for reading polish press statements
Also, Katowice is seemingly the festival centre on Europe, this looks ace too. Maybe one for next year.
and it never happens.
Out of interests, how much are travel expenses?
and food/drink is dirt cheap so you're saving there.
if that's what u wanted to know?
I thought you might have to fly to Krakow and work your way from there but it seems not.
of course it is.
Flights still available, about £80 each. Accomodation in the hotel nononolimits mentions is about £172 for 4 nights, for 2 people. Ticket's like £53. Roughly £219 it'd cost, plus spending money. I WANT TO GO!
cost me £23.00 when i bought it!
still, it's wellllllllllll cheap :D
i might also be able to get you cheaper accom, under the provision you drink muchos vodka with me and jonny
Looks like Suicide at least was unavoidable, hope Alan is OK.
Dodged a bullet there.
not bothered about the other un.
not sure if that's the final line-up or not now. i'd be happy if it is.
Africa Hitech at 3 in the morning is going to be the best thing ever
and everybody's Polish on the last fm page. EVERYBODY.
Me and Jordan are nice.
I meant in like a general sense, of course I've met you.
Yeah, I'll have a think about this and PM you two if I know I'm going. Would be cool to hang out again!
annoyed i won't get to see alva noto (probably).
alva noto&blixa bargeld
Mazzy Star / Josh Pearson
Iggy Pop / Doom / Spectrum (hummm)
Battles / Conan Mockasin (annoying clash)
Fennesz / Chrome Hoof (VERY annoying clash)
All the bands i wanna see start at 6 so can explore in the day. s'cool.
there are a few clashes which is a bit annoying. and i've just seen Akron/Family and Purity Ring have pulled out :(
but i think i'm going to do the following at the mo:
Atari Teenage Riot
DONT KNOW ANY OF THE EARLY BANDS
Iggy and the Stooges
DONT KNOW ANY OF THE EARLY BANDS
CAN'T WAIT!!! Need to do a bit of research about the bands i dont know as well....
purity ring are gettin hyped right?
As I didn't go to the London gig thinking I'd see them at Off. Sad face.
me and the wife fly from manchester friday morning. 4 star hotel for 22.50 a night! http://www.hotelediament.pl/en/park-hotel-diament-katowice.html. no more primavera for us!
who's excited??? :D
if you see a rugged looking seven foot tall bloke and a tubby lad with brown hair with a blonde fringe that'll be me and roastthemonaspit.
really looking forward to this!
i'm staying at a 4* hotel. swish!
only got a week off work until Christmas. Line up isn't as 'must-see' as last year so I'm doing a Paul Theroux train expedition around the country instead. Enjoy the festival.
not staying at a 4 star hotel tho :(
how's everyone getting to the festival from the airport? I think i will be using the shuttle bus on their website.
Dunno if there's anything to do or places to go on the Thursday?....i dont have entry into the clubnight
theres a shuttle from the airport to the city and from the city to the airport. taxi from airport to festival should only be about £30 so if there are 2 or more of you it might be worth getting a taxi.
shuttle to town centre = 23zl (About 4 pound 50)
bus to more or less the festival site = about 5zl 1 pound)
it's not difficult to find the shuttle, or to find the bus stop to the festival site (IE right outside the train station with special signs put on the lamp posts). Probably cheaper and easier. Plus if you're staying in the town, it's probably better value to get the taxi from the site to the town at 5am.
As for what to do on Thursday. Just hit the bars and stuff around 3-go Maya or to the north west of the stations main exit near ul. Jagiellonska. But to be honest, Katowice is not a particularly pleasant place. If you want something nice to do during the day before the bands starts, the park in Chorzow is pretty great, and some of the other parks you can reach by tram are great. I have a soft spot for Katowice, having spent many nights sleeping on the train station platform after missing connections, but in all, OFF is by far the best thing it has going for it. Funnily enough, the nicest place around Katowice is the site they use for the festival.
I went March last year. No elephants, no giraffes. One zebra, one hippo. Only one snake, thank fuck. Half the pens were empty. The most excitement was watching a fairly tame house cat wandering around and taunting the lions through the glass of their enclosure. It's pretty lame, as is the 'wesole miasteczko' (adventure park). The whole place is like a run-down seaside down, only in the middle of Urban Poland, and the biggest theme park in the country.
Are death in vegas and iggy pop playing on the same day?
is the theme park good then?
my hotel is right next to the train station, so a shuttle bus there will be sensible. do u just pay when u get on the bus or do u have to pay before?
i'll be getting there at about 8pm, so i dont know if much entertainment is needed before the festival, but the park in Chorzow is definitely an option :)
Just ask the bus driver 'prosze bilet do katowice centrum' or simply 'centrum' (sent-rum) and that's enough. I think its between 20 and 25 zlotych.
No the theme park isn't good. By Polish standards, it's good. But Disneyland it ain't.
I'm going to be on my todd tomorrow evening if anyone fancies a DiS meat.
Also, I live 1 hour away from Katowice. I might be in Katowice town centre or at the park during the day.
NB there's also an Imax in Katowice if you haven't seen Batman and the weathers shit during the day before the festival starts Tickets are 25zl (IE 5 quid)
great weekend of music. colin stetson, pissed jeans, stooges, alva & blixa, iceage were our highlights. seen so many more bands than we normally do running around at primavera. the pierogi was great too!
saw a lot of great bands. Katowice is very cheap - not much to do, but it's quite nice and the festival was ultra friendly. Weather spot on too.
Really good stuff all round. Great music, well organised, made some new friends. Can’t ask for more.
Forest Swords – stunning end to the weekend, really haunting and the crowd who stayed late to see them seemed to be loving it.
Chromatics – band of the weekend by some distance
Battles (and meeting them in our hotel bar and they being lovely)
Double vodka and cokes for £2
Shangaan Electro – especially the crowd going so nuts that you could feel the floor vibrating.
The crowd – no one talking during quiet acts, no one spending the gig taking photos on their phone. Just perfect.
Good organisation – the way that only 2 bands ever clashed at once mean you were never feeling like you were missing anything.
THE NOT SO GOOD
Andy Stott being so quiet, couldn’t get into it at all
Death in Vegas. Stop tinkering with your old songs, Fearless!
The main bars not selling any spirits at all (in Poland?!)
Missing Kuedo and High Places on Saturday night as I was too tired
Katowice being a bit of a dump.
Great great time.
Dam Funk was brilliant too, as were the bits of Chromehoof and Fennesz that I saw.
Was surprised at how quiet and respectful the crowds were overall - none of the louty/shouty/boozy element you would get in the UK. But when they got into something, they really got into it.
this was brilliant.
Kuedo - amazing end to a brilliant saturday
Africa Hitech - stunning end to a brilliant weekend :)
Atari Teenage Riot
.....Actually, basically every band i saw!
Everything was ridiculously cheap, both in the festival and in Katowice. 3/4 of a pint cost around £1.40, and come to think of it, 3/4 of a pint is about just right before it gets warm and disgusting
The timings of the bands meant that you barely missed anything, aside from the odd unfortunate clash
The vibe and size of the festival was great, along with the weather on the whole
The food was pretty good, especially the curry and the spinach penne pasta :D
Everyone was really friendly and spoke English!
Not being able to buy any alcohol aside from Grolsch or that Redd's flavoured lager (the citrus one being one of the worst things i've ever drank), or more specifically not being able to buy spirits was particularly crap. On the Friday i was there from roughly midday to get my ticket, and having to power through on just beer was tough. If i was drinking constantly then maybe i could manage it, but you couldnt take beer to the stages which was a little annoying. On Saturday and the Sunday however, i could plan my drinking a bit more and i started later. I didnt really feel that pissed at all during the festival tho, which some people would probably say is a good thing, but i didnt :(
The festival was dry as fuck for anything other than booze, if u know what i mean. Mind you, i think this is probably the easiest festival in the world to sneak something into
I think the token thing worked well for the booze and there was hardly any queues for the bars, but it was a little more annoying for the food and knowing how many i needed
The sound for Baroness was not loud enough
All in all, the festival was brilliant and i'd recommend anyone to go...and i have loads of money left over!
regret not seeing chromatics or bardo pond.
highlights were swans, the antlers, retro stefson and the twilight sad, non-musically sharing a taxi back to the airport was very fun, and food inside and outside of the fest was wonderful and cheap. staying in the angelo hotel was a great choice as all the bands were there.
met some really cool people too. the writers from the quietus and some of the festival photographers especially.
anyone see House of Love - if so, review please
Another great show, would have been happy to go and see them alone, but indicative of the caliber of performances that it wouldn't even make it into my top 5! I missed the first 10 minutes due to the need to pee and refuel, guess they started with Christine as i missed it. annoying! They were really tight, great sound, played pretty much what you would expect. A couple i didn't recognise, finished with Shine On.
I am with all the comments on the crowd. Apart from the odd exception there was very little talking or idiots waving cameras in my face. This made it easier to tell those who were talking to shut it, which generally worked.. apart from 1 fanny at Malkmus. Also hardly any litter. I wasn't too surprised by this to be honest. I have went to Poland 3 tims a year for last 6 years. People generally have better manners and more respect there. The legacy from Commie rule perhaps. I hope they don't adopt any of our bad habits. What i was surprised with was how mad they were for it.. never seen crowd surfing like it. The surfing at Iceage was hilarious. It was so empty down the front as everyone was fuct.. but still they were stage diving! I guess they don't get to see good bands too often!
No wonder I gave up on UK concerts (and audiences). Roll on 2013.
hope they play more concerts soon
relive your memories there?
Connan Mockasin, Colin Stetson, Shabazz Palaces, Andy Stott, Spectrum, Kuedo, High Places, Swans, Fennesz & Lillevan.
Good times were had.
couldn't get in to Andy Stott at all.
I do believe that I found it less stimulating than his recorded work, true, as more crowdpleasing beats seemed to be added. But still, very enjoyable to be dancing to his stuff with likeminded Polish comrades.
I generally loved how each evening the whole place turned into some weird dark slow afterparty with everyone dancing numbed out on his own cloud (no drugs involved). Best way to end a festival anywhere.